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Old 09-26-2011, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Figures from HappyCow.com. Not certain to count every restaurant but likely to.

New York: 53

Los Angeles: 48

Singapore: 30

London: 18

Jakarta: 8

Rio de Janeiro: 7

Paris: 5

Barcelona: 4

Buenos Aires: 3

Madrid: 2

Montevideo: 0
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Given my (admittedly limited) knowledge of Spanish food, I'm surprised there are any vegan restaurants at all in Barcelona and Madrid!

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Figures from HappyCow.com. Not certain to count every restaurant but likely to.

New York: 53

Los Angeles: 48

Singapore: 30

London: 18

Jakarta: 8

Rio de Janeiro: 7

Paris: 5

Barcelona: 4

Buenos Aires: 3

Madrid: 2

Montevideo: 0
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Old 09-27-2011, 07:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Given my (admittedly limited) knowledge of Spanish food, I'm surprised there are any vegan restaurants at all in Barcelona and Madrid!
True, traditional Spanish food is about as far from vegans as you could get. Sometimes I look at a menu card and wonder if they made a conscious attempt to get as far away from a vegan diet as possible. Maybe they want to show the youth that they're not standing for that modern stuff.

It's sometimes possible to order a vegetarian sandwich and get ham in it. Quite apart from fish, which almost everyone assumes you can eat if you're a vegetarian. And 90% of people won't understand the word vegan (vegano) if you tell them, you'll have to explain. (A long list of things just to be sure: "no fish, no meat, no chicken, no eggs, no milk, no cheese, no yoghurt...")
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Whenever I've eaten at vegan restaurants, I end up feeling like I have a brick in my stomach. Probably because I don't order the salads, because I assume they will be cereal-bowl-sized. The entrees tend to be loaded with oil and salt.
I know there are plenty that are not like this, I just haven't been to them.
Actually, I think this goes for all restaurants in general. I must be naive when I hope that "vegan" also means "we make some sort of attempt to be slightly healthy"
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No vegan restaurants in Vilnius, Lithuania.

Two vegetarian ones, though

In Lithuania when you tell someone that you're vegetarian they ask "What do you eat, then?". Most people have a hard time with the concept of not eating meat. I bet they would really struggle with idea of not eating animal products at all. Although raw food diet is getting popular (popular as in people have heard about it). I'm not sure what's that all about

Also, why people who eat fish consider themselves vegetarians? Even as a child I didn't get it. It's alive, it's killed, you eat it. Whats so vegetarian about it?

.. in my country, some people also think that vegetarians eat chicken as well..
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Whenever I've eaten at vegan restaurants, I end up feeling like I have a brick in my stomach. Probably because I don't order the salads, because I assume they will be cereal-bowl-sized. The entrees tend to be loaded with oil and salt.
I know there are plenty that are not like this, I just haven't been to them.
Actually, I think this goes for all restaurants in general. I must be naive when I hope that "vegan" also means "we make some sort of attempt to be slightly healthy"
There are a lot of different sorts of vegan restaurants out there!

Some are healthy... some are very unapologetically unhealthy. The most popular vegan place in Barcelona is hamburgers and such. Another one is even worse; everything is fried and served with brick-dense homemade bread.

But I've been to vegan places where I left feeling very light and healthy... some vegan/raw food cuisine fusions, really great.
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Fish are an evolutionary step back from mammals, and also the word "meat" is generally not used to describe it (words are psychologically very powerful.)
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New York and Cali. No wonder there are so many liberals there : D they aren't getting enough protein in their diet and their testosterone is depleting
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Also, why people who eat fish consider themselves vegetarians? Even as a child I didn't get it. It's alive, it's killed, you eat it. Whats so vegetarian about it?

.. in my country, some people also think that vegetarians eat chicken as well..
I'm not so sure that people who eat fish consider themselves vegetarians, but non-vegetarians seem to consider people who eat fish to be vegetarians . . . and here in the States as well, plenty of people think that vegetarians eat chicken! I saw what amounted to a fist-fight in another forum on this subject recently, where some people were totally adamant that vegetarians eat poultry and seafood.

I've only ever eaten at one vegan restaurant and it was awesome. I can see what people here are saying about heavy food though, because I always felt overly full coming out of there. Lots of stuff using seitan in place of meat, and bean-based dishes as well as starchy vegetables. But it all tasted amazing.
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No vegan restaurants in Vilnius, Lithuania.

Two vegetarian ones, though

In Lithuania when you tell someone that you're vegetarian they ask "What do you eat, then?". Most people have a hard time with the concept of not eating meat. I bet they would really struggle with idea of not eating animal products at all. Although raw food diet is getting popular (popular as in people have heard about it). I'm not sure what's that all about

Also, why people who eat fish consider themselves vegetarians? Even as a child I didn't get it. It's alive, it's killed, you eat it. Whats so vegetarian about it?

.. in my country, some people also think that vegetarians eat chicken as well..
My son had a big argument with his teacher at school last year, because she insisted that people who eat fish but avoid other meats are vegetarian. He said, "No, people who eat fish are pescetarian, not vegetarian" and finally she agreed to Google it lol.

Now, my son's not a vegetarian or pescetarian, but I've taught him the difference . Some people also consider those who eat fish and chicken to be pescetarians... but I'm pretty darn sure that people who eat chickens don't have any right to call themselves anything but omnivores!! (No idea why a chicken would somehow be considered a lesser animal than a sheep or cow...).

As a vegetarian, I find it easy enough to eat at home, but eating out is a minefield as most places just serve meat as default and there are few vegetarian options (although I haven't been anywhere where I couldn't find a vegetarian meal). Being a vegan is a gazillion times harder though!
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I know Toronto has 4 raw restaurants. 3 companies. Cruda cafe is a fav even when I am not on a raw food kick. All are vegan.

In terms of total vegan... I dont know. Many vegetarian places offer selections of vegan dishes. And we have lot of vegetarian places.
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You do realize you're the only conservative on this website, don't you? And also, conservatism is statistically correlated with lower levels of education, and vegetarianism is associated with higher education.

There are like 5 vegan restaurants in D.C. *counts* 1, 2, 3, 4,... uh... 5. There are a lot more vegetarian restaurants, though.
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11 of the ones in L.A. are within 5 miles of my house, along with 9 raw restaurants (some overlap). Also, there are local restaurants that advertise as vegan which are not listed. Not surprised, my neighborhood kind of has that reputation.

I'm not vegan, I identify as pescetarian but mainly eat vegetarian (w/dairy). My favorite place to eat is one that has the freshest locally grown food, a great chef, and good vegetarian options - in fact, just ate there tonight!

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You do realize you're the only conservative on this website, don't you? And also, conservatism is statistically correlated with lower levels of education, and vegetarianism is associated with higher education.

There are like 5 vegan restaurants in D.C. *counts* 1, 2, 3, 4,... uh... 5. There are a lot more vegetarian restaurants, though.
Who said I was a conservative?

Higher education does not equal higher intelligence.

Also, from the style of arguments I've seen on this board, I think there are a lot more conservatives then you might realize : D
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I consider myself conservative in the traditional sense, however most conservatives today, even ones who would consider themselves "traditional," would disagree with every one of my viewpoints from the fiscal area to the social area and beyond. Political labels are meaningless! Most liberal politicians are no more or less fiscally conservative than conservative politicians - it just so happens that bible-thumpers like spending tons of money on big business subsidies and Whole Foods shoppers like spending tons of money on medicare and other various safety nets. Oh and solar panels and electric cars. Which are a total waste of money because the world is never going to run out of oil, ever. (We have an infinite supply.)

That is, of course, another reason why modern conservatives aren't really conservative. Rather than conserving our current oil supply (which is by its very nature, finite) they would often rather deny that it will ever run out, or that it pollutes. A true traditional conservative is actually interested in conserving, whether it be money, power, natural resources, dildos, lawn chairs, whatever. Conservative doesn't mean you pretend to be conservative with fiscal policy, hope they don't notice the subsidies, and then stop trying.

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