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05-01-2007, 09:51 AM
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Hi all, Does anyone have any remedies for hypertension that actually work? I am young (mid twenties) fit, active, ideal bodyweight, non-smoker etc etc but suffer from hypertension. Doctors can find no cause. I am on two prescription medications but my bp still remains stubbornly around 140/70.  I am at my wits end as this has been going on for years with no improvement... Aside from medication I have tried apple cider vinegar, cocoa, celery, tea and all manner of other natural "remedies". All to no avail. As stated previously I am in otherwise perfect health and am quite fit. Anyone else have the same problem and found an answer? I would be most appreciative for any thoughts... Thankyou |
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05-01-2007, 11:37 AM
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Do you have access to an osteopathic physician who could do myofascial release or another form of manipulation to your upper back area? Just as an experiment, I've done that to a couple of patients to see what it does for their blood pressure. In each instance, I put a blood pressure cuff on their arm, checked the pressure then did manipulation. Afterwards checked the pressure and it came down several (about 20) points. I think the reason it worked is that it released long standing tension in the upper thoracic area, which is where the sympathetic nervous system is. This is the "fight or flight" thing. People store experiences in their body. Old stressors can hang around a long time. If you don't have a DO available, you might practice "belly breathing" several times a day. This is simply moving your abdomen more than your chest when you breathe, which activates the parasympathetic nervous system and can cause the "relaxation response" rather than the "fight or flight" of the sympathetic. Don't take this as a replacement for your medical care! It's just some ideas you might explore. |
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05-01-2007, 12:14 PM
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140/70 sounds like it's just towards the higher end of the normal range. Stress is a major contributing factor. Do you have any other symptoms, like headache, dizziness or numbness? You may need to look at your whole lifestyle and adop a few changes, e.g. take up yoga, cut down on meat and alcohol, eat more vegetables, possibly try to be less active (read and meditate more) - just a few ideas. Did your doctor check for kidney function?
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05-01-2007, 04:33 PM
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here are a few ways that I know: 1. 2 week water-only medically supervised fast (very effective). average up to 39 points of systolic drop, effective even after one year follow up/ Entrez PubMed 2. breathing technique (there's even an FDA approved gadget for helping lowering blood pressure) Lower Blood Pressure With No Side Effects If you're a good self starter or aren't fond of relying on technology for health, you can probably do it without a gizmo. Check out High Blood Pressure 3. diet: Omniheart has 3 diets that lower systolic BP 13 to 16 points on average http://omniheart.org 4. Chiropractic adjustments I know of at least 3 articles demonstarting the benefits of chiropractic adjuastments on lowering blood pressure. Here is one of them (the best and most recent) Journal of Human Hypertension - Abstract of article: Atlas vertebra realignment and achievement of arterial pressure goal in hypertensive patients: a pilot study 5. I agree with Maclinda on the myofascial release. I don't have any studies to back it up, but getting a good myofascial release therapist (DC, DO, PT, OT, or massage therapist) who can help you feel any trapped sympathetic nervous system energy (fight or flight energy) and guide you to release that is critical to your health. If your body believes (unconsciously) that it is in a situation that needs high blood pressure to survive (fight, flight or unresolved past trauma) , any other approach will just be adding more stress to your system. The beauty of myofascial release is the experience. When that type of energy moves through your body and dissipates, there is no doubt that something very powerful has happened. Myofascial Release - Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Chronic Pain Solutions by using Myofascial Release good luck and glad to see you thinking outside the box  |
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05-01-2007, 05:37 PM
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as maclinda said above ,people store experieces in the body.they also store past life experiences in the body,some very traumatic. the lady that runs soulwisdom.net has developed a modality that releases these blockages.its sounds to me like your body is stressed because of some of these blockages but i;m not an expert.
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05-01-2007, 10:43 PM
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Hello Crafty... if your systolic blood pressure stays around 140 and the diastolic at 70 I would not worry if I were you... and, after many decades of consulting with patients the only thing that I saw that could naturally lower blood pressure is garlic... but... best of all... just stop worrying... it might be the best thing for you to do... Good Luck to you...  |
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05-03-2007, 10:45 AM
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I was in the same situation--same BP as yours for many years starting in my late teens/early 20's. Medication did not bring it down. I did not believe that I was under stress, but after getting out of what was a stressful job in that it was ruining my self esteem, magically my BP has been about 120/80 or better for the last 2 years. I am still using the medication, but getting the results that I should have been getting. I have made a life long commitment to myself to monitor my stress levels. I think it's just so important to health as a whole.
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05-03-2007, 11:01 AM
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Here is my recommendation (Free of Charge) - Consider the supplementation ( or unprocessed food rich in EFAs ) of essential fatty acids ( both omega 6 and Omega 3 in unprocessed form ) advocated by Dr Brian and Dr Udo Eramus Read http://www.brianpeskin.com/NEXUS%20H...%20Article.pdf UdoErasmus.com > FATS THAT KILL FATS THAT HEAL - The Complete Lecture - Part Four: Excess or Deficit in EFA's... Omega 6 deficiency causes the following symptoms: Skin, hair, and nails become defective, leading to ... eczema-like skin eruptions dry skin and hair; hair loss water loss through the skin (dehydration) with attendant thirst impaired nail growth Organs fall apart, resulting in ... fatty infiltration of the liver; kidney malfunction; dry eyes The brain falls apart, bringing about many changes, including ... poor vision; decreased learning ability; lower intelligence mood changes; depression; poor handling of stressful situations problem behavior; attention deficit; hyperactivity; dyslexia motor incoordination; and poor physical performance Glands dry up, failing to make their vital hormones and secretions The immune system falls apart, producing ... increased susceptibility to infections; impaired healing of wounds The reproductive system falls apart, and we get ... male sterility; and female miscarriage Our joints fall apart, manifesting as ... arthritis-like conditions The cardiovascular system falls apart, resulting in ... heart beat abnormalities that can lead to cardiac arrest sometimes, increased cholesterol Digestion falls apart, leading to ... poor digestion of foods; inflammation; leaky gut; food sensitivities, allergies Growth becomes retarded. Omega 3 deficiency causes the following symptoms: growth retardation; vision and learning problems; behavioral changes; mental deterioration; weakness; motor incoordination; tingling sensations in arms and legs. Researchers agree on these omega 3 deficiency symptoms; but omega 3s often reverse the following conditions, which should therefore be added to the list above: high triglycerides; high blood pressure; sticky platelets; sub-optimal skin condition; inflammatory skin diseases; water retention (edema); inflammation in any tissue in the body; auto-immune conditions; low metabolic rate; weight gain. Thanks to the almighty processed food industry. More and more people are getting afflicted with depression and debillating diseases . THe bottom line is, A bad fats diet kill , a Low fats diet kill too. Last edited by escapee; 05-03-2007 at 11:19 AM. |
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05-04-2007, 11:21 AM
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Wow... I am overwhelmed by the amount of responses and the time that people have put in to help me. Thankyou. I am going to further research everything you have taught me and hopefully my ails will be cured. In response to the last post, the doctors said it is HT because before I was on medication it was around 160/90. So obviously the medication has helped a great deal but I feel that if I am subjecting my body to medication for the next hopefully 50-60 years it should be doing an even better job. I am just worried that at current levels my BP poses a great deal of danger to my health. About a year and a half ago my mother passed away suddenly from a heart attack. She was only 51. She wasn't diagnosed with HT or anything but maybe she had it? I dont want history repeating for myself and my 2 children.... Thanks again. |
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05-04-2007, 11:08 PM
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Er... the doctor probably diagnosed your hypertension based on something else, because the medication he prescribed you were not designed to treat hypertension, but to reduce blood pressure. In other words, someone with a healthy BP would get hypotension from taking your meds. But I digress. Does your mother's side of the family have a history of cardiovascular dieases, such as hypertension, cardiac arrests, etc? |
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05-04-2007, 11:22 PM
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And if they are... how else can you threat hypertension other than by reducing the blood pressure...??? . | |
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05-08-2007, 08:33 PM
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JMan - Speaking of oxygen content.... Has anyone ever observed you while sleeping? Sleep apnea can wreak havoc on BP. If you feel like you sleep soundly, I wouldn't worry too much about it. But if you feel fatigued and appear to snore a lot, then it's worth doing a sleep study. After using my CPAP for a few months, my heart races a lot less and my BP has remained consistent. |
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