|07-21-2011, 05:38 PM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Toronto, Canada
Alternative Treatments For Breast Cancer
Earlier this week, my friend was diagnosed with breast cancer. The doctor is recommending a mastectomy, chemotherapy and then radiation. Has anyone used or know someone who has used an alternative treatment for breast cancer that was successful?
Thanks for any input
|07-21-2011, 07:49 PM||#2 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Sorry to hear about your friend. I have had many family members get cancer. When they go the conventional medical way such as chemo and radiation they last a few years, but always get cancer again someplace else. Chemo kills the immune system. It does kill cancer cells, but also healthy cells. We need to build the body up, not weaken it. I suggest talking with Dr. Robert Morse ND. He is a naturopathic doctor who has helped heal thousands of patients with cancer. Type his name in you tube and you will find some of his videos. I suggest she look at her lifestyle. Most medical doctors will treat her like she is a victim. Cancer genes are usually turned on by lifestyle choices such as stress, lack of sleep, nutrition, exercise, pollution, etc. If you accept you are a victim it gives away your control, but if you realize you have control to change things then you gain strength. Nutrition is the first area I would look at. Does she eat processed food? I wish her well, and a speedy recovery.
|07-21-2011, 07:50 PM||#3 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2011
I have not had direct experience with this, but I have read heavily on the subject of alternative treatments. I take no liability for any action you take based on this advice.
The first thing I would recommend is an organic, all-vegan diet. I've read many stories about this, and at seems to clear it up most of the time. I'd say to do this for about a month without doing any other treatment to see how it goes (depending on what stage the cancer is in, of course).
There are many different foods and chemicals, as well, that can cause and cure cancer. There is a big list of them at AboveTopSecret.com. It's a conspiracy site, but don't let that bother if you don't like that kind of stuff; I think the advice in that thread has a lot of merit.
Cancer is DEAD: Cancer cures from A to Z, page 1
I have heard researched quite a bit about antineoplastons, and it seems to me they have some use. I wouldn't recommend them as the only treatment, but it's definitely not pseudoscience like many people claim it is. It's usually used as a last resort, if other things fail and the cancer is getting worse, so it's at least good to know about it.
Burzynski Clinic | Advanced Alternative Cancer Treatment | Houston, Texas
Really, I think if your friend does things correctly, there is little chance of them dying from cancer. If nothing else, the organic vegan diet seems to get rid of it most of the time. If she applies just a few of the tips from the ATS thread, the cancer will be virtually guaranteed to go away. Be careful, though, of course, because there is probably some bad information in that thread.
Also, although I don't know a huge amount of the topic of radiation and chemotherapy, having both definitely seems excessive when combined with the first treatment (especially as they are very dangerous, and can often do more harm than good; although in some situations they will help tremendously, also). As I said, I'd recommend doing different dietary stuff for around a month before resorting to traditional treatment.
As well, please be careful when using this advice. It would be horrific beyond words to both me, her, her friends, family, etc. if your friend used this advice and died from it, so make sure to be very, very, careful.
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|07-21-2011, 11:59 PM||#5 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2009
breast cancer caused by bras
Step 1: stop wearing a bra.
Some women think it so important to prop their boobs up that they'd rather die than go without. If that's the case, cut the underwires out of all of her bras. This is almost as good as going without.
Step 2: lymphatic massage nipple out all the way around each breast
Step 3: use Energy Psychology to clear out perturbations...
Step 4: avoid vegetable oils entirely
|07-22-2011, 01:21 AM||#6 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Providence, Rhode Island
|07-22-2011, 01:55 AM||#7 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2010
I would second nearly everything that was mentioned in this thread. To the person not familiar with alternative therapies, it seems like a bunch of wishy-washy hippie nonsense, but having spoken with many people who have cured their cancer by eliminating toxins, changing diet, changing lifestyle, spiritual healing, etc, I can say that it works much better than the months or years of sickness that conventional medicine will bring her.
The hardest part is simply getting around the stigma associated with "alternative medicine." It will sound like people are telling you vague, weird, witch-doctor type remedies, such as eating vegetables, doing yoga, breast massages, avoiding oils and processed foods, and heck, even exercising frequently.
|07-22-2011, 08:57 AM||#8 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA
I have similar problems. A child I know has rickets. What should he do? Another friend has scurvy. What should he do? A friend wants me to go on a long cruise but everyone knows that the earth is flat and we will fall off of it. Also a friend sneezes a lot and we know that means that a demon is trying to posess him. That is why everyone says "God bless you" when you sneeze.
So you help me first. The undisputed cure for scurvy is vitamin C but it used to kill many coming to America on ships. In 10 years from now, no one will be asking what you are asking. Breast cancer has been virtually cured.
Moores Cancer Center proposes that cancer is a vitamin D deficiency! Doctor of Public Health Cedric Garland works there. He also says that enough vitamin D will virtually eradicate beast cancer. Who is this nut?
Cedric Garland, DPH, is a doctor of public health. The job of a DPH is to find ways for society to overcome diseases and become healthier. He is a researcher and a professor at the UCSD (University of California, San Diego) Department of Family and Preventive Medicine, and member of the Moores Cancer Center. Dr. Garland is a Fellow of the American College of Epidemiology. He has a Doctor of Public Health degree from UCSD and studied epidemiology at Johns Hopkins. His goal is to eradicate cancer.
Isn't epidemiology the study of insects? Or is that entomology.
Epidemiology is the study of patterns of health and illness and associated factors at the population level. It is the cornerstone method of public health research, and helps inform evidence-based medicine for identifying risk factors for disease and determining optimal treatment approaches to clinical practice and for preventative medicine.Dr Oz has a video on youtube about vitamin D and breast, colon and uterine cancer. Webmd has an aricle about breast cancer and vitamin D. Low Vitamin D Levels Common in Breast Cancer
Harvard Medical School has an article on breast cancer and vitamin D. Time for more vitamin D - Harvard Health Publications
Hardly a month goes by without news about the risks of vitamin D deficiency or about a potential role for the vitamin in warding off diseases, including breast cancer, multiple sclerosis, and even schizophrenia.In 2007 Time Magazine said that vitamin D was one of the top 10 medical breakthroughs of the year. In 2010 the RDA of vitamin D was tripled. In 2009 an MD wrote a book about vitamin D. In 2010 3 MDs wrote a book on vitamin D. As far as the kid with rickets, vitamin D has been the undisputed cure of rickets for decades.
Andrew Weil, M.D. says:
Increasing the amount of vitamin D in the body can prevent or help treat a remarkable number of ailments, from obesity to arthritis, from high blood pressure to back pain, from diabetes to muscle cramps, from upper respiratory tract infections to infectious disease, and from fibromyalgia to cancers of the breast, colon, pancreas, prostate and ovaries.The health ranger (Natural News- Mike Adams) says:
Vitamin D is 'the cure' for breast cancer that the cancer industry ridiculously claims to be searching for. The cure already exists! But the breast cancer industry simply refuses to acknowledge any cure that doesn't involve mammography, chemotherapy or high-profit pharmaceuticals.
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|07-22-2011, 04:55 PM||#9 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Northeast, CT
Prostate cancer is generally not fatal in the case of an older man, due to normal loss in testosterone production as the body ages. My grandfather was in excellent shape for his age and the doctors told him that he had the hormones of a 35 year old. And it killed him.
I have a cousin who was, at 14, diagnosed with Ewing's Sarcoma. In 2005 he was given a 10% chance to survive the year. Today, he is still fighting. He would have been dead at least 4 years ago if it weren't for chemo and radiation.
Go ahead and say that being in better shape and eating whole foods and increasing doses of certain vitamins will help you fight cancer. DO NOT say that will cure cancer without chemo or radiation or other modern treatments. It's dangerous and stupid.
To the OP, go ahead and mention these various alternative treatments to your friend, but don't call them cures, call them complimentary treatments, but follow doctor's orders.
|07-22-2011, 06:22 PM||#10 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2011
I am sorry to read that your friend has cancer. I remember reading that Suzanne Somers did not have surgery after her diagnosis of breast cancer; I do not know of anyone personally.
You can do both traditional cancer treatment and alternative. Finding a doctor with a clue about both is not going to be easy. If you are near a cancer treatment hospital (one that focuses on just cancer) go and get another opinion. These places usually have alternative medicine offices-I know Dana Farber does. I believe you can get a second opinion from Dana Farber without actually having to go in. Check it out, I am not positive. Actually get another opinion anyways.
I just read Anti-Cancer: A New Way of Life by David Servan Scherbier; a doctor who has cancer and does research about finding why it re-occured. He believed stress and overwork was a big reason. There is a lot of good information in here. If you are interested in herbal treatments Michael Tierra's "Treating Cancer with Herbs" book has great information on boosting the immune system and supporting the whole body. There are lots of books with stories about cancer survivors. Go to the library before buying anything.
There is a lot of information out there online too. I have read that omega 3 can help, Vit D3, Calcium, lemons, baking soda, etc can help with cancer. How true is it? I have no clue.
Your friend is going to have to do research and find out what is right for her since her overall health needs to be considered (if she has other health issues she needs to be aware of the effects herbs, homeopath, etc can have). Acupuncture, yoga and massage can assist with healing too... good luck to your friend.
|07-23-2011, 05:22 AM||#11 (permalink)|
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|07-23-2011, 01:58 PM||#12 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Mississauga, On Canada
This is always a tough situation. If I was diagnosed with any form of cancer, I would probably utilize all available options including both conventional medicine and alternative therapy. At this point, with something as serious as cancer, I don't have enough faith on alternative therapies alone to completely disregard conventional medicine, especially if I was being seen by a top specialist at a teaching center.
It would be way too much of a gamble to cancel all appointments with the conventional medicine specialists and just head off to those doing alternative therapies for something like cancer. I do believe that some alternative therapies do have some promise so I would do both, not one or the other. But that's just me.
|07-23-2011, 06:47 PM||#13 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2010
Sorry to hear about your friend. I would suggest finding a good doctor of integrated medicine, but I just came across something, for what it is worth. A population study in China found that women who ate at least 10 grams of button mushrooms a day had about 65% less risk of breast cancer than those who consumed no mushrooms. And if they also drank green tea they had like an 80-90 percent decreased risk. It is past the prevention phase, but that will help her from relapsing.
Can Mushrooms, Green Tea Prevent Breast Cancer? - Dr. Weil
|07-23-2011, 10:07 PM||#14 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Eastern Canada
Here is an email from one of my health role models Wade Lightheart: Maybe it will resonate with her! He has cancer protocols and has treated and heal people with cancer, I think you can contact him or his company for more information...
Home - He is based in Arizona.
"Recently, I was asked by Bob Wright of the Anti-Cancer Instituted of America to write a lifestyle strategy for anyone looking to prevent cancer. Here's what I sent them. Please note that this is not medical advise it's simply the philosophy I and my clients adhere to avoid cancer and also what many of my clients who have cancer follow.
Here is a copy of that article:
Building Your Cancer Free Lifestyle With The A.W.E.S.O.M.E. Health Philosophy
When I was 14 years old my sister was diagnosed with a form of cancer. Over the next 4 years I watched her, my family, and her doctors battle valiantly until finally and my sister died. I was studying Exercise Physiology and Nutrition at the University of New Brunswick and I was determined to avoid a similar fate for myself. It's been 20 years since my sister's death and I am proud to say I have developed a lifestyle philosophy that assist you in preventing cancer and helps in overcoming Cancer. I also believe that anyone with a strong will and a commitment to a healthy lifestyle regimen can also BEAT CANCER!!!
The first thing I learned is that almost everyone looks at Cancer from a victim mentality. I learned as an athlete and a coach you never approach anything you want to win with that kind of mentality. Let's be straight. Cancer for the most part is a disease related to a combination of factors which include, diet, lifestyle, and lastly genetics. Unfortunately, most people fail to recognize that if they want to Win the Cancer game, they must take care of ALL of the conditions within their control.
The A.W.E.S.O.M.E. Health Philosophy and a lifestyle protocol that addresses these lifestyle related issues. What surprises many people is it's relatively the same protocol I give people who are looking to heal their bodies, improve their health, or even for those looking to perform at the highest levels such as professional athletes. The only fundamental differences are time on the protocol and dosages which vary from person to person. Many people say "well I am not a professional athlete so this won't work for me"... I say "Why Not?" A cell is a cell is a cell and if you can optimize the conditions that make cells work properly your body will naturally heal itself.
You see doctors study pathologies and seek out methods to eradicate the symptoms of a disease which is one way to deal with the symptoms however after witnessing my sister and countless other individuals endure the horrors of chemotherapy, radiation, and bone marrow transplants this approach didn't make sense. Think about it. If you wanted to become healthier would you go take a round of chemotherapy? Or subject yourself to high levels of radiation? If you simply stop and ask yourself "Does this make sense?" you tend to get clarity around a problem. It's for this reason, that I chose to study EXCELLENCE through optimizing cellular functioning through manipulation of the factors that make your cell work properly. If a cell is working the way nature intended it's reasonable to assume a person would be less likely to develop Cancer or overcome if they already have?
Before we get to my formula for success: Let's get down to brass tacks. I have given this same talk to every person who has cancer and has consulted with me for Nutritional and lifestyle advice;
If you get cancer you have 4 choices:
follow conventional medical procedure, which is chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery - sometimes this process continues for years
follow conventional medical procedure which is chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery and alter your lifestyle habits by improving your lifestyle via holistic methods
disregard conventional medical procedure and throw yourself into a completely holistic methodology altering diet, lifestyle, mental, spiritual, beliefs.
Whatever choice you make, if you want to give yourself the best chance to live you will ultimately have to change your lifestyle if you don't want to develop cancer again. This is why I suggest you pick whichever action is right for you and stick with it. For those who want to alter their lifestyle here is what I would do if I were faced with Cancer. If these ideas make sense to you go for it, if they don't forget it and move on.
I have broken my 7 step process into what I call the A.W.E.S.O.M.E. HEALTH philosophy. This process is best done sequentially:
A - Air - I practice deep breathing for 5-60 minutes each and every day. Dr. Otto Warburg one a Nobel Prize for demonstrating Cancer is a result of the cell not receiving enough oxygen to operate properly. The cell then relies on Anaerobic (without oxygen) energy production generally through the fermentation of carbohydrates. Over time this leads to an acidic cellular condition which creates an environment where cancer is far more likely to grow or replicate. So Deep breathing is the easiest and definitely the least costly way to positively improve oxygen getting into the cells. Other ways to improve our oxygen uptake is through specialized treatments like hyperbaric chambers. Dr. Andrew Weil has some great Audio CD's that teach you simply and powerful breathing exercises that you can practice daily. He suggests that deep breathing is the most powerful way to affect healing and it costs only time.
|07-23-2011, 10:13 PM||#15 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Eastern Canada
W - Water - Almost all the water we consume today has a damaged structure which makes it less likely to be absorbed by the cell. The top water researchers in the world have recently revealed that the structure of your water is more important than the chemical compounds. Since osmotic pressure, PH, cluster size and electrical charge can affect the absorption of water as well as the removal of acidic waste products and free radicals I look to find the best water I can get. Personally I have found using a Water Ionizer that produces enough power to create active hydrogen to create an abundance of free electrons that scavenge free radicals. I simply hook an Enagic SD 501 in combination to a three stage KDF filter which eliminates almost all pollutants in the water, the water is then restructured, the PH is boosted to high alkaline levels, and the surface tension is reduced to enhance absorption. This is the ultimate water treatment system and I have my clients drink 1 oz per pound of body weight until optimal levels of health are reached. Water is the medium of exchange for all electrical and chemical functions within the body and putting premium water in your body is of primary importance. Tap water, bottled water, and vitamin waters simply don't cut and there is a wealth of evidence to suggest these types of water are contribution to lifestyle related illness.
E - Exercise - Everybody knows exercise can help improve your health but for those who have cancer this can be extremely challenging. I look at exercise much differently than most exercise experts. I see exercise as a way to optimize cellular functioning and there is no better way to optimize cellular functioning than by rebounding. Nasa spent millions of dollars researching the best way to to help athletes recondition their bodies when returning from space. There research demonstrated that rebounding was the simplest, fastest, and easiest way to improve the strength, endurance, and flexibility of astronauts. Unlike regular exercise rebounding leverages both acceleration and deceleration without putting excessive strain on your joints or tissues. It also is one of the most efficient ways to pump lymphatic fluid in the body which is the primary system to remove toxic waste from the cells. Even a light bounce can radically alter cell functioning by increasing mitochondrial density, improving nutrient absorption, and waste removal and strengthening every cell in the body. It's fun, it's easy, and it can be done right in your own home. Not all mini-trampolines are equal so I have found that David Hall's Cellerciser is the highest quality rebounder and the safest by far and all my clients bounce on the Cellerciser for a few minutes every day. IT truly is AWESOME.
S - Sunlight - Heliotherapy has been used for years and although some cancer drugs make you more sensitive to light few people can argue how a little bit of exposure to the sun can improve your sense of well-being. Over the last decade Sunlight has gotten a lot of negative press but I believe that the judicious use of the sun can speed healing. Infra-red sauna's are an alternative way to receive life enhancing rays that help remove toxins from the body, speed metabolism, and improve happiness. I believe that all nutrition is actually various forms of condensed sunlight and learning to harness this technology on a daily basis can positively enhance your health. All of my clients get 10-15 minutes a day or 30 minutes twice per week. I also suggest removing all fluorescent lighting from the home and installing full spectrum lighting to improve your health. It's amazing how this subtle shift can make such a big impact.
O - Optimizers - (Enzymes, Probiotics, Amino Acids, Minerals, and Vitamins) - Dr. Edward Howell demonstrated in his ground breaking book Enzyme Nutrition how Enzymatic deficiency in animals contributed to disease. Since humans consume primarily enzymatically deficient diets we rely on the body to produce digestive enzymes to breakdown our food. This reduces the availability of Metabolic enzymes to heal the body and optimize cellular functioning. Dr. Howell was able to demonstrate how enzyme deficiency was related to a variety of illness and the massive intake of digestive enzymes could assist the body in overcoming a variety of conditions. All of my clients take high quality plant based enzymes with every meal and several times between meals to break down food and to boost the enzymatic potential - All report improved energy levels and digestion, more frequent bowel movements, improved skin, cognitive function, and enhanced sense of well being when taking enzymes.
Probiotics - Few individuals understand this field better than Dr. Michael O'brien who enhanced a common probiotic strain through a special process. This strain demonstrated an ability to shrink and prevent tumor growth among 5 other allowable patent claims. He combined massive dosages of Probiotics and Enzymes along with a special Rice Bran protein to assist Dr. Bernard Jensen overcome terminal cancer- In just 8 weeks 85 year old Bernard Jensen went from 76 pounds to well over 115 pounds and made a complete recovery from Cancer. Dr. Jensen wrote about this in his book Come Alive.
Minerals and Vitamins - Minerals and Vitamins are most easily absorbed in their ionic mono-atomic form. Daily intake a ionic minerals and vitamins enhance every electrical process involved in cellular functioning. I have all my clients take several drops with every glass of water to optimize levels. No matter how good you eat today it's impossible to get all your vitamins and minerals. A few drops a day and I get everything. It's simple fast and easy. Most of all because of the rapid and efficient absorption of vitamins and minerals in this form it's a very cost effective way to obtain your vitamins and minerals.
Amino Acids 9 (a.k.a. Protein) - Protein is made up of amino acids which are the building blocks of life. Unfortunately this is a very misunderstood subject. Your body actually needs amino acids and there are 20 different types 8 of which your body cannot manufacture. I have my clients consume a rice bran protein in conjunction with pea protein and hemp daily to ensure the full spectrum of amino acids that have not been cooked which may limit the bodies ability to absorb or use the amino acids. It most certainly reduces the metabolic cost of digestion if you consume uncooked protein. You need enzymes to get your protein (amino acids), protein to get your minerals, and minerals to get your vitamins. I prefer using organic vegetarian sources of protein as opposed to meat, fish, or poultry. Cooked meat is more challenging on the digestive system and may contain a variety of drugs, antibiotics, and other toxins which impair the body's capacity to heal. The less stress I put on the system the more efficient the body's system works. For cancer patients I eliminate all cooked foods until the desired level of health is reached.
M - Mental Beliefs and Attitudes - Your mental beliefs and attitudes are perhaps the most important part of the healing process. As I mentioned at the first developing a winning attitude is the first principle in winning in sports and its imperative to winning health. I suggest reading inspiring stories, listening to uplifting positive music such as classical music and watching inspiring uplifting movies. Comedy's are the best and there is considerable research demonstrating how laughing boosts the immune system. A laugh a day can truly keep the doctor away. I also suggest using visualization, affirmation, and meditation to improve one's dormant capacity for healing. World renowned consciousness researcher, nutritionist, and psychiatrist Dr. David Hawkins book "Healing and Recovery" illustrates how to use the power of the mind to heal yourself and make a complete recovery from any illness.
E - Education, Testing, and Coaching - Anytime you make any change in life it's good to get the right education. You also need testing to see what your current level of health is as well as to track improvements. This is critical to determine if your program is working. It also keeps you and your coach accountable to your program and allows you to make adjustments along the way. Their are a variety of educators in the field and I suggest going with the person who produces the results you want and is most agreeable to your disposition. There a wide variety of tests that you can perform to monitor your body and each practitioner has their own preferences. Again interview a number of holistic health practitioners and go with the one you feel good about. Also remember to change your lifestyle can be hard work and it's great to have a coach to help you along the way, help you identify your problem areas, and provide you solutions to help you make the improvements you need to make. Every great athlete recognizes the benefits of coaching so what makes you think you can be your best without coaching. Coaching cuts the learning curve and provides an opportunity to reframe negative patterns, behaviors, beliefs, or habits by keeping you accountable to yourself. Coaching is a great way to get leverage on yourself and I highly recommend if for everyone looking to improve your health.
|07-23-2011, 10:31 PM||#16 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Czech Republic
[QUOTE=strategicalcoach;951811]Has anyone used or know someone who has used an alternative treatment for breast cancer that was successful?[QUOTE]
I don't now if breast cancer specifically but cancer, yes. But it very much depends at what stage it is. If it is still in the initial stages (hardly recognizable), then I know someone who claims to have been having a high success rate of curing it by means of a natural treatment, developed by a medical doctor, a treatment which is licenced and very popular in this country.
And of course, it is always good to have a look at the possible deeper, psychosomatic causes. If they are resolved, quite often the physical symptoms disappear as well or become alleviated at least.
Otherwise, Brandon Bay's book might be a very good inspiration in a difficult situation like this. I think it is called "The Journey" or something like that (NLP stuff).
|07-25-2011, 12:30 PM||#17 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Northeast, CT
Grandpa was a farmer, and ate only what he grew (and drank the raw milk his son produced) with a few exceptions (eggs, notably) and was one of the strongest men I've ever met. If you looked close, you'd have a hard time distinguishing his diet from a paleo diet. He survived a year longer than the doctors expected once it spread.
So, yes, I am a firm believer that proper diet and such will help stave off cancer. However, I don't believe that either lifestyle choices or chemo/radiation/surgery are cures, but I wouldn't ignore any of it.
|07-27-2011, 07:14 PM||#20 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Currently Clorado
My mom had breast lymphatic and uterine cancer. Was told by her MD that if she didn't do exactly what she was told (radiation chemo etc) that she would be dead in 6 months.
She didn't do any standard therapy and is one of the healthiest 77yo women you will ever meet.
You need to work on the emotional, nutritional, spiritual combined to win this fight.
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