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Old 06-18-2011, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question how to reduce teeth cavity or bad breath

hi , is it possible to combat bad breath at all even though one uses the best paste/fluride in the world.kindly advise
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try drinking peppermint tea a few times a day before meals. It helps with the digestive process and maybe look at what you are putting into your body, as bad breath can also stem from the stomach, not just your teeth. Make sure you floss so any bits of meat (if you eat it) don't get trapped and go rancid in your mouth.
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hi , is it possible to combat bad breath at all even though one uses the best paste/fluride in the world.kindly advise
I stopped using the best paste/fluoride
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Well first of all don't use fluoridated products. The controversy over fluoridation should make you want to play it safe.

Gargle with saltwater. Avoid dairy products and simple carbohydrates and simple refined sugars. Avoid eating for two hours at least before going to bed.
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It's been shown (and personally empirically tested) almost using anything "artificial" creates bad breath.

Mouthwash is a leading cause. The alcohol content dries the mouth and creates a breeding ground for bacteria to grow. The saliva in your mouth is a natural germ reducing agent but the alcohol counteracts it. In addition alcohol is a caustic agent that kills cells including the ones in your cell walls creating soil for bacteria to sprout.

Toothpaste also does the same thing to a lesser degree, not to mention if you brush too hard you wipe away enamel.

I brush very occasionally (once or less a month), and my dentist has always said I'm her best client. No cavities, no problems, no bad breath, nothing. She says "oh you've been brushing and flossing twice a day huh?" I just nod and this further convinces me that the dentistry profession was concocted as a money generator. It doesn't make sense that humans for thousand of years haven't had to brush their teeth and now suddenly they do. I get our food is different and full of preservatives, but I'm living proof that not brushing your teeth preserves enamel and doesn't degrade teeth.

While this is to the chargin of most, I learned from my father who brushed away all his enamel and lost all his teeth that brushing too much is detrimental.

Also, just a side note, I was told in my early twenties if I didn't remove my wisdom teeth, I would have intensive pain 2 years later. Again, I was skeptical because 1) Somehow I doubt the natural biological body induces pain for a natural occurrence 2) Money money money.

Never removed it and I've been absolutely fine. While I do have friends that are professional dentists, the whole field reeks of greed like the ophthalmology that invents physical problems for money
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I would avoid using fluoride if I were you. It really isn't good for you. I use Dr. Bronners soap and it works great.

If your mouth is dry you'll get bad breath. Make sure you stay well hydrated. Drink water throughout the day. When you feel thirsty you're already dehydrated. Keep your teeth clean. Floss and use a tongue cleaner to get the bacteria off your tongue in the morning.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's been shown (and personally empirically tested) almost using anything "artificial" creates bad breath.

Mouthwash is a leading cause. The alcohol content dries the mouth and creates a breeding ground for bacteria to grow. The saliva in your mouth is a natural germ reducing agent but the alcohol counteracts it. In addition alcohol is a caustic agent that kills cells including the ones in your cell walls creating soil for bacteria to sprout.

Toothpaste also does the same thing to a lesser degree, not to mention if you brush too hard you wipe away enamel.

I brush very occasionally (once or less a month), and my dentist has always said I'm her best client. No cavities, no problems, no bad breath, nothing. She says "oh you've been brushing and flossing twice a day huh?" I just nod and this further convinces me that the dentistry profession was concocted as a money generator. It doesn't make sense that humans for thousand of years haven't had to brush their teeth and now suddenly they do. I get our food is different and full of preservatives, but I'm living proof that not brushing your teeth preserves enamel and doesn't degrade teeth.

While this is to the chargin of most, I learned from my father who brushed away all his enamel and lost all his teeth that brushing too much is detrimental.

Also, just a side note, I was told in my early twenties if I didn't remove my wisdom teeth, I would have intensive pain 2 years later. Again, I was skeptical because 1) Somehow I doubt the natural biological body induces pain for a natural occurrence 2) Money money money.

Never removed it and I've been absolutely fine. While I do have friends that are professional dentists, the whole field reeks of greed like the ophthalmology that invents physical problems for money
It's also genetics, so to say that everyone will be like you is foolish. I know people who just don't get cavities, ever. Has nothing to do with their brushing habits. You've gotten lucky and have genes with a mouth that resists cavities.

I didn't remove my bottom wisdom teeth. No pain, but my front teeth are all cockeyed now.

Also I get plaque after a day of not brushing. And I only use tooth powder made from salt and a few other things .
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I use this great ayurvedic powder made from ash and salt and a whole bunch of herbs ground up...it's brown and it's weird brushing with it, but it works really well and the herbs give a nice fresh breath. I also add a bit of Bi-carb of soda to the mix. It's weird to get used to it after a lifetime of brushing with paste, but I think it's actually better.

A woman I know said she heard from an old dentist that she knows, to use just ash from the fireplace...which is all he ever uses and has for the past 40 years. He said people don't need toothpaste at all, it was always just a money making business thing endorsed by dentists who got paid by those companies to sell the products.

Apparently this particular dentist has never had a filling and has great oral hygeine.
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Fireplace ash, hm? Cool.

I'd second what everyone has said.
Stop using commercial mouthwash, instead you can use salt water or just water.
Stop using commercial toothpaste; some great suggestions have already been given, but I would add that I use a mixture of baking soda, coconut oil, and a few drops of peppermint essential oil.
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It's also genetics, so to say that everyone will be like you is foolish. I know people who just don't get cavities, ever. Has nothing to do with their brushing habits. You've gotten lucky and have genes with a mouth that resists cavities.

I didn't remove my bottom wisdom teeth. No pain, but my front teeth are all cockeyed now.

Also I get plaque after a day of not brushing. And I only use tooth powder made from salt and a few other things .
Yeah, genetics plays a huuuge role. I always get frustrated with non-cavity prone people acting like teeth upkeep is no big deal.

I have the most genetically perfect looking teeth I've ever seen. They're completely straight and big and bright and look absolutely gorgeous. But they're extraordinarily prone to rot, and it seems there is not much I can do about it.
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Yeah, genetics plays a huuuge role. I always get frustrated with non-cavity prone people acting like teeth upkeep is no big deal.

I have the most genetically perfect looking teeth I've ever seen. They're completely straight and big and bright and look absolutely gorgeous. But they're extraordinarily prone to rot, and it seems there is not much I can do about it.
So true about genetics. It's really not fair! I have a brother that hardly brushes his teeth or anything and has ZERO cavities and I always do plus floss and I've had a bunch. I think it has to do with how naturally the middle ridges of your teeth are.
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So true about genetics. It's really not fair! I have a brother that hardly brushes his teeth or anything and has ZERO cavities and I always do plus floss and I've had a bunch. I think it has to do with how naturally the middle ridges of your teeth are.
It has to do with bacteria production in your mouth
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In addition to brushing after every meal, you should consult your dentist or at least dental hygenist if this is a recurring problem just to be on the safe side.
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Tea tree oil. Diluted in water as mouthwash.
Also, mixed with green clay as toothpaste. ( one drop of tea tree oil on toothbrush or dipping the brush in water/tea tree oil mixture - then dipping in powdered clay.)
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There's a very simple therapy called "oil pulling" where you swish sesame or sunflower oil around in your mouth for 15 min. then spit it out. It does an amazing job of cleaning the mouth and also the teeth. In some cases it's been known to actually heal cavities (which is impossible from a dentist's point of view).

I practice this myself every morning and it's great, a wonderful way to keep your mouth in tip top shape. The website below has all the information and instructions on how to do it:

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It's also genetics, so to say that everyone will be like you is foolish. I know people who just don't get cavities, ever. Has nothing to do with their brushing habits. You've gotten lucky and have genes with a mouth that resists cavities.

I didn't remove my bottom wisdom teeth. No pain, but my front teeth are all cockeyed now.

Also I get plaque after a day of not brushing. And I only use tooth powder made from salt and a few other things .
First of all I never assumed everyone to the be the same as me. 2nd, theres no data to show that our teeth are clinically variant from each other in terms of conditions and chemical composition. So you're assuming everyone is different and have huge variances in genetic teeth is equally fallible.

In addition, my father has lost all his teeth as I've already recounted. You seem to be saying "i have good gentics so my teeth are intact" but imy father is proof that this isn't the case. I don't deny though there are environmental factors that are variable, but if anything his case shows that we don't have amazingly good teeth in our family. (And there others in my family who are worse)

As for story I was sharing, I just say try it. I had acne and used every product imaginable from clearsil to accutane. The only thing that worked was not washing my face. I often think the use of artifical chemicals is a cause rather than cure for some ailments.,
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First of all I never assumed everyone to the be the same as me. 2nd, theres no data to show that our teeth are clinically variant from each other in terms of conditions and chemical composition. So you're assuming everyone is different and have huge variances in genetic teeth is equally fallible.

In addition, my father has lost all his teeth as I've already recounted. You seem to be saying "i have good gentics so my teeth are intact" but imy father is proof that this isn't the case. I don't deny though there are environmental factors that are variable, but if anything his case shows that we don't have amazingly good teeth in our family. (And there others in my family who are worse)

As for story I was sharing, I just say try it. I had acne and used every product imaginable from clearsil to accutane. The only thing that worked was not washing my face. I often think the use of artifical chemicals is a cause rather than cure for some ailments.,
I never said our teeth our. I was talking about the bacteria that our mouth produces, which does vary. And, as far as your genetics. Your father having bad teeth has nothing to do with you having good genetics. It could come from your mother, your grand father or grand mother from either side, or even further back. It doesn't matter really.

My brother can't get a cavity, yet I'm riddled with them. My dad lost all his teeth by 25. My best friend also can't get a cavity, yet her dads teeth are riddled with them, same as her brothers. Again, all genetics in play.

And, you pretty much are assuming then everyone has teeth like you, that can just not brush for a month, and be perfect. Or else you wouldn't have suggested such a thing, nor talked bad about brushing in general. My assumption that everyone is different, is a lot less fallible then your assumption, as every single person on this planet is different.

I'm all for not using chemicals. You can wash your face every day, just don't use chemicals, and same thing goes for teeth.
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My brother can't get a cavity, yet I'm riddled with them. My dad lost all his teeth by 25. My best friend also can't get a cavity, yet her dads teeth are riddled with them, same as her brothers. Again, all genetics in play.
You really should look into oil-pulling I mentioned in my other post, it would help with your cavities, it also removes all the bacteria from your mouth, I've had great success with it.
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You really should look into oil-pulling I mentioned in my other post, it would help with your cavities, it also removes all the bacteria from your mouth, I've had great success with it.
What about the good bacteria?
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I never said our teeth our. I was talking about the bacteria that our mouth produces, which does vary. And, as far as your genetics. Your father having bad teeth has nothing to do with you having good genetics. It could come from your mother, your grand father or grand mother from either side, or even further back. It doesn't matter really.

My brother can't get a cavity, yet I'm riddled with them. My dad lost all his teeth by 25. My best friend also can't get a cavity, yet her dads teeth are riddled with them, same as her brothers. Again, all genetics in play.

And, you pretty much are assuming then everyone has teeth like you, that can just not brush for a month, and be perfect. Or else you wouldn't have suggested such a thing, nor talked bad about brushing in general. My assumption that everyone is different, is a lot less fallible then your assumption, as every single person on this planet is different.

I'm all for not using chemicals. You can wash your face every day, just don't use chemicals, and same thing goes for teeth.
You're assuming genetics plays this huge role in teeth. You're also assuming everyone's different based on your assumptions based on family. Eliminating all other environmental factors and focusing on genetics. The differences in your family could be attributed to environmental factors, not genetics.

Teeth are not totally varied among people. They have the same chemical composition, the same cell makeup, and are formed the same way. What differs are size and formation. To say that all our teeth react differently is no more provable in that they are different. There are varying degrees and levels. If we took a tooth from me and you and both threw it into lava, both of them would melt. But if we took yours and mines and put it into a can of coke, they may be a day or two off from each other. But by then you have to consider the condition of our teeth from environmental factors rather than from genetics at that point.

I'm not saying everyone will react like me, I'm saying to TRY it to the OP. I'm merely sharing my experience and I realize not everyone will have the same reaction. If someone shares their experience they are trying to convey what works for them. Which is the whole point of giving advice Russian Rocket....

I'm saying "x" works for me. Do I know if it works for everyone? No. Someone could have gum disease or herpes of the mouth for all I know. But that's the whole point of giving/asking advice is that we assume some commonalities to our cases.

if someone asks, hey guys, how do you ask a girl out, I share my experiences and what has worked for me. I realize there are 10000 different variables that could affect the situation, but I don't mention and recount every single one, I just say what works for me. This is the case for all advice.

When you mentioned that you don't use the best paste/flouride, you're accounting what works for you. Do you know that will work for the OP too? You have no idea. What if the OP has a special disease unbenowest to you and she contracts a worse bacteria because of your advice? Again you cannot communicate every single variable on a forum. But you share what works for you. You also make assumptions when you share any advice.

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Before I respond to your post, I think you might want to reread my OP, and then your OP.
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Yes. cut down on your sugars. Bacteria love sugar and quickly multiply when sugar is left in your mouth for hours before brushing/rinsing. And yes, I use toothpaste with fluoride in it and I'm not keeling over yet.
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What about the good bacteria?
It would really help if you went to the website Oil Pulling, Wonderful Therapy, An Ancient Ayurvedic Method for Great Health for all your questions.

I'm not a dentist.... you need more information and that's the only place to get it!!
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Chris, whoever said fluoride would make you keel over?

I haven't intentionally ingested the fertilizer/aluminum smelting industry waste form of it for several years, but not for any fear of keeling over.

I think if it were an issue of keeling over, there wouldn't be much controversy over it. It'd be like lead paint. Sure, 100 years ago it was in style, but now we know it'll make your kids retarded.
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It's also genetics, so to say that everyone will be like you is foolish. I know people who just don't get cavities, ever. Has nothing to do with their brushing habits. You've gotten lucky and have genes with a mouth that resists cavities.

I didn't remove my bottom wisdom teeth. No pain, but my front teeth are all cockeyed now.

Also I get plaque after a day of not brushing. And I only use tooth powder made from salt and a few other things .
I think there's definitely a genetic/luck component. My dentist once told me he should put me on a diet of chocolate and coke lol just cause I had no tooth decay. Of course, at the time I didn't eat brilliantly as it was However, I've always brushed regularly, and I get plaque if I don't.

Mind you, some years later I took my son to a dentist who said you should floss daily but only brush every few days or you'll damage enamel. He said plaque takes a few days to grow... but my experience is that if I don't brush my teeth twice a day I'll get plaque (in fact, if I forget to brush in the morning, by the afternoon my teeth will be furry).

Still, I agree that it's not brushing that makes the difference. When Weston Price went around checking the dental health of native populations with NO toothbrushes and toothpaste or modern dentistyr, he found very very low incidences of tooth decay (in some areas as low as 1% of teeth showed any decay...meaning only 1 in about three people had a decayed tooth).

I also think fluoride is EVIL. Our local water supply was fluoridated in 2009 YEARS after they should have KNOWN BETTER. ARGH. Yes, I lived here since my birth with NO tooth decay and now they poison the water... frigging brilliant...and what's the bet no one's teeth has actually improved?!
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I'm wondering if using mouth rinse (perhaps salt water) would eliminate the fuzziness.

Now that I think about it, I usually brush my teeth once a day in the evening. In the morning I usually rinse with water pretty thoroughly. Never noticed any fuzz, and independent peer-reviews have never suggested bad breath.
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Booooo people who don't suffer from tooth decay! Especially those who say it's not genetic!

I have lovely looking teeth - I get complimented on them all the time. But every time I go to the dentist, I have 4 or 5 cavities, at least.

I brush very well - but not to the point where I'm ruining the enamel - and floss daily. I don't eat very much sugar, but I consume tons of dairy products and dark leafy green vegetables. I know people who brush less than I do and never get cavities, and I know people who brush more than I do and never get cavities. I know people with very similar lifestyles/eating habits who never get cavities. I know people who never floss and live off of soda and cookie diets and never get cavities. So boooooooo everyone who claims it's a lifestyle thing, and not genetic!
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180 - What do you do for your teeth since you don't brush? How you do keep them from getting yellow? How do you prevent bad breath and plaque build up? I'm only 22 and I've already rubbed off some enamel from brushing too hard in a certain spot.
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I used to have a HUGE problem with bad breath. I stank all the time and brushing or not was no use.

Then I stopped drinking coffee (and I so much LOVED my coffee) and 3 days later, I smelled clean even if I'd not brush my teeth.

What I would suggest is eliminating one thing at the time from your diet and see what changes things.

If brushing your teeth doesn't eliminate the smell chances are it is not in your mouth but in your stomach or throat.
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