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When we eat, our body converts digestible carbohydrates into blood sugar (glucose), our main source of energy. Our blood sugar level can affect how hungry and how energetic we feel, both important factors when we are watching how we eat and exercise. It also determines whether we burn fat or store it. Our pancreas creates a hormone called insulin that transports blood sugar into our body's cells where it is used for energy. When we eat refined grains that have had most of their fiber stripped away, sugar, or other carbohydrate-rich foods that are quickly processed into blood sugar, the pancreas goes into overtime to produce the insulin necessary for all this blood sugar to be used for energy. This insulin surge tells our body that plenty of energy is readily available and that it should stop burning fat and start storing it. However, the greater concern with the insulin surge is not that it tells our body to start storing fat. Whatever we eat and don't burn up eventually gets turned into fat anyway. The greater concern is that the insulin surge causes too much blood sugar to be transported out of our blood and this results in our blood sugar and insulin levels dropping below normal. This leaves us feeling tired and hungry and wanting to eat more. The unfortunate result of this scenario is that it makes us want to eat something else with a high sugar content. When we do, we start the cycle all over again. .................... |
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Not immediately useful, but at least you know for next time. [EDIT] Note that the problem isn't with sugar but rather with high-Glycemic carbohydrates. Sugar isn't great, but there are foods with a higher glycemic response than plain sugar - baked potato or white bread, for example. (Ironically, deep-fried chips are lower GI than baked potato because all that fat slows carb absorption - I still wouldn't recommend them as healthy. P.S. A while back I switched from regular coffee to decaf, and still get much the same hit off it that I ever did. I came to the conclusion that I actually get more of an energy boost from the sugar (or in my case chocolate
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You can find tons of info online about this stuff. You could try starting with a search for "glycemic index" and go from there. I know I didn't answer your question directly, but that's because there isn't really a good answer (numbers-wise) for it. It's more about balance than numbers. | |
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| http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/8/sugar_cancer.htm JFYI One of my Aunts who fond of drinking coke lost the battle to breast cancer in early 40, leaving 4 young children and husband. She had even requested coke to be "served" in the funeral before she passed away. If i knew how evil sugar is 10 years ago ....... Thing would have been very much different. Quote:
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In regards to Coke, I think it's a lot more than the sugar at issue. More specifically, caramel colour and caffeine as well as the ?mystery ingredient" that they have patented. Apparently the jury is still out as whether or not Coke still may contain traces of the coca leaves that were included in the original product. IMO, it's pretty scary stuff. Sorry,i know this is a tad off from the original topic.
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| The body doesn't require any dietary sugar. The whole point of low carb diets is that the body can readily produce what it needs from fat and protein. Meanwhile any excess carbs are converted to fat. If you're going to eat carbs (berries, greens, nuts and seeds can be quite good for you), go for those which are lower on the glycemic index, as they won't raise your blood sugar as much and thus will contribute less to insulin resistance. Eating carbs with fat/protein also slows down the release of sugar into the bloodstream, effectively lowering the glycemic index again.
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For me there is no question that refined sugar is the main poison in coke though there could be other hidden poisonous ingredients that are equally dangerous. Quote:
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I am sorry to hear about your aunt. However, as a person who know many people who are currently battling, have lost battles and have won battles to cancer i know that blaming an entire disease (especially one so complex as breast cancer) on one improper lifestyle is not helpful to anyone. it is very unlikely that your aunt's demise was based solely on coke. I'll bite, however, coke is certainly not good for you. But if breast cancer is due to people drinking coke, then how can it be that so many coca cola drinkers go on to lead long healthy lives and that there are breast cancer sufferers that have never consumed a coke or hardly ever do. Cancer has little to do with sugar consumption. If anything, sugar can be helpful to patients undergoing chemo and radiation treatment because it is easy on the stomach and a complete loss of appetite is common for chemo patients. The quotes that you are citing are very poorly worded and written, which makes me believe that they're source is not a completely reliable one. Please dont make outrageous claims and preach false information (or inadequate information) when people come on this board who are actually seeking help. As for the person who said the body does not need sugar to survive? The brain's preferred source of energy is sugar. If you do not eat enough sugar or carbohydrates your liver start to produce ketone bodies which are soluble fats that the cells of the body can use as fuel. The brain can use these but the high acidity of these compounds results in acidic blood, which is not a condition you want you're body to be in. While your brain cells can function on ketones, it doest not prefer them and therefore does not work optimally when they are its main source of fuel, as in a no or low carb diet. As a result i think you will find some starving people, extreme dieters or low carbers seem a little "not all there." To the person who asked what kind of carbs are good for you and how much sugar is too much. I like to stick with the rule of: try to limit servings of food with sugar as the first or second ingredient to one or less a day and substitute all white or processed breads, pastas and grain for whole wheat and whole grain. Try to make sure all the source of carbs you eat are 4g or fibre or more per serving. Thsi helps stabilize blood glucose levels because it slows carb absorption from your intestines. |
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Dietary Glycemic Load and Risk of Colorectal Cancer in the Women's Health Study -- Higginbotham et al. 96 (3): 229 -- JNCI Journal of the National Cancer Institute Dietary Sugar, Glycemic Load, and Pancreatic Cancer Risk in a Prospective Study -- Michaud et al. 94 (17): 1293 -- JNCI Journal of the National Cancer Institute Cancer link to fizzy drinks, sugar - Cancer - MSNBC.com Cancer feeds on sugar Help spread the information . Last edited by escapee; 04-17-2007 at 01:49 AM. | ||
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Discovery Health :: Refined vs. Unrefined Carbohydrates Dr Spreen : Director of nutrition physician Quote:
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__________________ I am always open for feedback on my posts. If your feedback would go offtopic feel free to send me a Personal Message. My posts generally don't contain medical or legal advice, if you have a problem seek the opinion of an expert Talking about this in terms of “bad news” or “bad judgment by business leaders” seems archaic. It’s like describing World War One as “a serious diplomatic concern.” Bruce Sterling about the financial crisis. | |
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Using refined sugar to "induce swinging appetite" on a Chemo patient is nothing but a nutritional disaster . The NCI has a good brief guidance with respect to the appetite and nutritional needs of chemo patients . Oral Complications of Chemotherapy and Radiation - National Cancer Institute Last edited by escapee; 04-17-2007 at 07:20 PM. |
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They only thing they say is that you shouldn't eat much sugar if the cancer patient has problems when he has a dry mouth.
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Below is given guidelines from NCI . Suggesting a nutrients and calories densed food. Highly concentrated Refined sugar is neither nutrient nor calories densed food. It's a poison. I'm amazed by your insistence (Stubborness?) that refined sugar is somehow okay to be taken by a chemo patient . Quote:
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