I'm in pain, and not sure what to do.

[scorpio1980]

Well like the title says I am in pain to say the least. Part of my pain makes sense, but others don't. Well about 4.5 months ago I was running towards my truck, and I twisted my ankle really bad, and the doctor said it will be fine in a month or so. Well here I am, and it still hurts well after. I just went to another doctor, and he basically took xrays, and didn't see anything, said just work it with a band. If it were just that ankle I would not be writing this.

Around 3 weeks ago or so I woke from my sleep, and heard a pop or snap from my left arm/wrist/hand area, and well basically it has hurt since. I can't pinpoint the pain, because it radiates.

Then around a week ago I was at work, had my hand in my pocket, and in a narrow hallway happened to hit my hand that was in my pocket against the side of the door. This is the other hand. Ever since I have had radiating pain from this hand. Both hands radiate up the arms, and down to the tips of my finger tips. Although sometimes I feel no pain, yet sometimes it is in one location, and other times it radiates.

Then 3 days ago I went walking in the woods, and barely for a second had uneven footing while walking over a small limb. Now that foot/ankle hurts.

So here I am and both my arms/hands/wrist hurt, and ache.
Also both my legs/ankles/feet hurt, and ache. I notice my wrist seems to pop more often now. I also notice I ache more often than ever around my body in general. I know injuries happen, but this is getting crazy. Stuff that shouldn't hurt me is actually hurting me. Does anyone have any explanation, or advice for what to do. I want to get back to normal activities. I can't live my life like I want. I want to rock climb, hike, and just do things like this. My muscle strength is excellent, but I feel like my bones/tendons/ligaments may be weak, and this may explain how these problems have arose. I will be 30 next month, so I shouldn't have these problems. I have always been strong, and don't ever get sick. I could do lots of pushups/pullups, etc before all this, but now I am scared to workout, because of the pain that might be caused. Any advice? Thanks.

[spacecadetglow]

Ugh I know the feeling. Sorry to hear it.

Crazy as it sounds, I'd recommend realigning your energy through some type of yoga, acupuncture, meditation, reiki, etc. It's made a big difference for me. When you keep your vibration up, everything improves. Just do some stretching and really get in your body you know? You may also want to try icing the areas, or taking epsom salt baths.

Hope this helps.

[SireneB]

It sounds like nerve stuff and regular yoga could help get your alignment back on track, I'd suggest doing that for 2-3 weeks and see if it makes a difference.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by spacecadetglow

Ugh I know the feeling. Sorry to hear it.

Crazy as it sounds, I'd recommend realigning your energy through some type of yoga, acupuncture, meditation, reiki, etc. It's made a big difference for me. When you keep your vibration up, everything improves. Just do some stretching and really get in your body you know? You may also want to try icing the areas, or taking epsom salt baths.

Hope this helps.

Thanks. I have thought about trying yoga, but I'm nervous to really do anything with my wrist/ankles, because I don't want to risk messing something up further than it is. I have also thought that perhaps I just need to get moving, and exercise more. The past couple of years have been my least active, very little exercise and sunlight compared to the years prior, but it still doesn't really seem to explain how easily I seem to be getting injured. I am pretty sure part of the pain in other areas of my body come from the torture I gave myself for years, probably toxins, and inflamation. I smoked 2+ packs of ciggs until I was 24, went through periods in my life where I was a heavy drinker, had years in my early 20's where I would do quite a bit of cocaine, I have smoked pot most of my life, and I ate fast food everyday of my life from the time I was in my early teens to just a few years ago. Over the past 5 years or so I really started getting interested in health, and have progressively studied everything health I could find, I mostly lean towards alternative therapies/ nutritional answers. I haven't smoked, or done cocaine in around 5-6 years, but the bad food has still been part of my diet, just much less of it. I think I may have done so much damage to myself early on that now that i'm nearing 30 it is starting to affect me more. I do feel this can be solved, but the best way which is fasting is not possible, because of work right now. Does this all make since to anyone else. Also I tend to allow alot of stress into my life, but I am working on it. It really sucks to see how much healthier I live now, and getting healthier by the day, yet feel less whole, and just bad. It seems like I have had constant injuries for about 2 years now, I just want to get back to normal. I still consume some bad food, but I have a juice every morning for breakfast usually kale/carrot/celery. Have large salads with hemp seeds, some fruit. The meat I eat is usually grass fed, etc. All shopping done at whole foods, but again my downfalls at the moment is eating out, fast food too much, and my stress levels are high, because i'm still at a job I hate, I desire to fast, but can't at the moment, and I have a girlfriend that just can't seem to get it together, and i'm tired of paying her way. Sorry for the long paragraph, but oh well.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by SireneB

It sounds like nerve stuff and regular yoga could help get your alignment back on track, I'd suggest doing that for 2-3 weeks and see if it makes a difference.

2 for yoga! How would yoga help exactly? I know yoga stretches you, but how could it help with nerve stuff? Thanks.

[cacheborn]

Better see a doctor. If you are in pain, nothing wrong with taking painkillers. They can also act as anti-inflammatory agents and reduce the internal swellings. etc.

This is synchronous to say the least. I went to the clinic this morning because I am having pain in my shoulders and also some other joints. The doctor advised me to do some tests to find the cause. Weak bones can also cause such problems.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by cacheborn

Better see a doctor. If you are in pain, nothing wrong with taking painkillers. They can also act as anti-inflammatory agents and reduce the internal swellings. etc.

This is synchronous to say the least. I went to the clinic this morning because I am having pain in my shoulders and also some other joints. The doctor advised me to do some tests to find the cause. Weak bones can also cause such problems.

I do appreciate your response, but since moving towards a more healthy lifestyle I have given up all medications, even asprin. I do know that some are anti-inflammatory, but so are raw veggie juices. I have a very good ability to deal with pain. I can deal with the pain, but I can't get to a normal life with it. I am wondering about the weak bones thing myself. It could be a part of it. I have a feeling that a lot of this is my body finally falling victim to all the abuse I did to it through the years, and I need to get serious with my nutrition. I have decided to go on a raw diet for the next 21 days. I have tried raw quite a few times, but could only get to day 7 one time, and day 5 about 3 weeks ago. I have a problem with it though, because all the sugar gives me low energy, and I can't really eat salad at work. Maybe I will take hemp seeds to work with me this time. Work seems to be the downfall to my raw food trials each time, and of course to my desire to fast, and my stress levels. I have a plan to quit this job when I have 6 months of expenses saved, which will be a number of months, until then I have to tackle this in lesser ways.

[pinacolada]

try bikram yoga.. its done in heated room. Heated room is good to keep your muscles relax and soft, doctors recommend it for people who has osteoporosis, and people who suffered from slipped disk..and people who recently had injuries, but its necessary to tell your instructor bout your injuries so they would know how to help you.

[Honeywith4bees]

Originally Posted by spacecadetglow

Crazy as it sounds, I'd recommend realigning your energy through some type of yoga, acupuncture, meditation, reiki, etc.

I second the suggestion for acupuncture. Yoga is good for over all health, I'm not sure it would help with these particular injuries, but it would certainly improve your health otherwise.

Have you thought about getting a good therapeutic massage?

[spacecadetglow]

Hey, cheers to you for turning your life around and doing healthy things for yourself!

Yoga helps everything. Physical pain can be a symptom of energetic misalignment. It sounds like you have some emotional pain to work through as well, particularly your guilt for eating junk food and using drugs. Your body and mind are intimately connected... I was having all kinds of nasty mental issues as I experienced synchronous physical symptoms. Once I healed my mind, my body healed as well.

Just a word of caution: don't go too nuts with the raw diet and expect it to fix everything. BTDT for me, and it fixed nothing, only made me more obsessive about food than I already was. I recommend yoga because it's physical exercise, which is AWESOME for your health, but it also affects your mind positively.

And yes you're absolutely correct that you need to get more exercise. It increases blood flow and helps circulation, bringing nutrients and oxygen to the painful spots that need it most. Sunlight, too, is just plain healthy (in moderation!).

[curiouslyrandom]

I'd suggest seeing a good chiropractor before starting yoga, but definitely do the yoga when you can. It will help you maintain better flexibility and help your body naturally realign itself. But first, you gotta get back in line with your spine, and for that you need a good chiro.

Most chiropractors will offer a free consultation, so try a few until you find one you feel comfortable with. There are quacks out there, but there are some excellent chiros who can really help you. My kids and I went to one for several years, just to keep things healthy. We saw a measurable drop in illnesses, headaches and ear infections during that time, so it was definitely worth it.

Acupuncture will also help. Chiro, yoga and acupuncture all compliment each other and will help to keep you off any unnecessary meds.

Yoga helps everything. Physical pain can be a symptom of energetic misalignment. It sounds like you have some emotional pain to work through as well, particularly your guilt for eating junk food and using drugs. Your body and mind are intimately connected... I was having all kinds of nasty mental issues as I experienced synchronous physical symptoms. Once I healed my mind, my body healed as well.

This is very true. You may find that once things are resolved with your girlfriend, your health will start to improve. Your tension will lessen and you'll stop hurting yourself because your movements will be more relaxed.

I started yoga last year to help deal with mental anguish I was going through, and found that not only did my mind feel better, but my body did too.

[SireneB]

My experience with yoga is that it can help body alignment, particularly of the spine.

[LostMyMap]

Originally Posted by scorpio1980

The past couple of years have been my least active, very little exercise and sunlight compared to the years prior, but it still doesn't really seem to explain how easily I seem to be getting injured.

OH yes it does explain it. Very much so. Exercise helps build strong muscles, bones, and all the bits that connect things together. And if you are doing certain things, improves your balance and coordination. So when you are walking through the woods and hit an uneven surface, or trip, you can recover with your strength and balance and not twist your ankle.

And I hate to say this, but 30 isn't 20. You will find that you can't get away with things that you did before. It's not the end of the world, by any means, but things are going to be just a little different. But you are still plenty young and well mostly healthy.

I agree with the chiropractor first, then some easy yoga, and lots of plain walking, to get those ankles moving. I twisted my ankle once and it really took months to get to where it didn't hurt at all. Just takes time.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by pinacolada

try bikram yoga.. its done in heated room. Heated room is good to keep your muscles relax and soft, doctors recommend it for people who has osteoporosis, and people who suffered from slipped disk..and people who recently had injuries, but its necessary to tell your instructor bout your injuries so they would know how to help you.

I may try this. Not sure it will affect the cause, but i'm sure either way it will be beneficial.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by Honeywith4bees

I second the suggestion for acupuncture. Yoga is good for over all health, I'm not sure it would help with these particular injuries, but it would certainly improve your health otherwise.

Have you thought about getting a good therapeutic massage?

I recieve massage on occasion, and it feels really good. I tried accupuncture, and didn't really feel any different. I will get a massage soon.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by spacecadetglow

Hey, cheers to you for turning your life around and doing healthy things for yourself!

Yoga helps everything. Physical pain can be a symptom of energetic misalignment. It sounds like you have some emotional pain to work through as well, particularly your guilt for eating junk food and using drugs. Your body and mind are intimately connected... I was having all kinds of nasty mental issues as I experienced synchronous physical symptoms. Once I healed my mind, my body healed as well.

Just a word of caution: don't go too nuts with the raw diet and expect it to fix everything. BTDT for me, and it fixed nothing, only made me more obsessive about food than I already was. I recommend yoga because it's physical exercise, which is AWESOME for your health, but it also affects your mind positively.

And yes you're absolutely correct that you need to get more exercise. It increases blood flow and helps circulation, bringing nutrients and oxygen to the painful spots that need it most. Sunlight, too, is just plain healthy (in moderation!).

Well the raw diet will help with detoxing toxins, and inflamation, thats why I am thinking about doing that as a cleanse. I also noticed the few times I tried it my focus became clearer, and I had more peace of mind. I understand it isn't a cure all, but the excess nutrients, and the cleansing in a time of injury couldn't hurt. I will also have to say that I still get more exercise than most people, just as not as much as I used to get. Thanks.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by SireneB

My experience with yoga is that it can help body alignment, particularly of the spine.

Will try it. Thanks.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by LostMyMap

OH yes it does explain it. Very much so. Exercise helps build strong muscles, bones, and all the bits that connect things together. And if you are doing certain things, improves your balance and coordination. So when you are walking through the woods and hit an uneven surface, or trip, you can recover with your strength and balance and not twist your ankle.

And I hate to say this, but 30 isn't 20. You will find that you can't get away with things that you did before. It's not the end of the world, by any means, but things are going to be just a little different. But you are still plenty young and well mostly healthy.

I agree with the chiropractor first, then some easy yoga, and lots of plain walking, to get those ankles moving. I twisted my ankle once and it really took months to get to where it didn't hurt at all. Just takes time.

Thanks for the replies to everyone! Well map, when I say I haven't exercised as much, I think people are getting the wrong impression. I live near a state park with a small mountain. I still go, and do some hiking most everyday, unless the pain of my ankle gets to me too much. I average 2-3 miles of pretty strenuous hiking probably 4-5 times a week. Up until a couple months ago I was pounding out a good body weight workout every couple of days as well. It just used to be that I got alot more exercise through rock climbing, and such. I sort of buy the whole 30 isn't 20 thing, but still doesn't explain the whole reason why I keep injuring myself with stuff that normally wouldn't hurt me. I see a chiro every once in a while, and I suppose I will go again soon. Thanks for the advice.

[Lauxa]

If you go to a yoga class, arrive a little early and tell the instructor that you have some problems with your wrists and ankles. Then if there are any moves that would strain your wrists or ankles she can suggest a modification or at least warn you.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by Lauxa

If you go to a yoga class, arrive a little early and tell the instructor that you have some problems with your wrists and ankles. Then if there are any moves that would strain your wrists or ankles she can suggest a modification or at least warn you.

good tip! Thanks.

[Honeywith4bees]

Although I LOVE LOVE LOVE yoga and go myself two or three times a week, I'm not sure that it would be a healing practice for wrist and ankle problems. Sure, its excellent for overall health, "squeezing and massaging" your internal organs, spiritual health etc etc, I think there is a different, underlying problem to look into.

A woman at my gym has serious arthritis issues in her wrists and ankles. She has to be very careful because she can injure herself quite easily. She's in her late 40's? early 50's? so this is not the "normal" arthritis that she has but a more aggressive form.

Good luck with this scorpio

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by Honeywith4bees

Although I LOVE LOVE LOVE yoga and go myself two or three times a week, I'm not sure that it would be a healing practice for wrist and ankle problems. Sure, its excellent for overall health, "squeezing and massaging" your internal organs, spiritual health etc etc, I think there is a different, underlying problem to look into.

A woman at my gym has serious arthritis issues in her wrists and ankles. She has to be very careful because she can injure herself quite easily. She's in her late 40's? early 50's? so this is not the "normal" arthritis that she has but a more aggressive form.

Good luck with this scorpio

Thanks, I don't think this arthritis, because it's not a pain that showed up for no reason. I was injured everytime. The issue that i'm trying to figure out, is why was it so easy to injure. I'm thinking it could be emotional issues deep down, and perhaps structural issues from years of abuse. I am going to eat a raw cleansing diet for the next 21 days, see a second doctor for his opinion, and go back to the chiropractor. I may go to physical therapy. Will probably get a good massage, maybe go back to get acupuncture, and when I feel like my wrists are a little better I will enroll in yoga, because I have been wanting to anyways. I have always wanted to get past life regression done, and this may be just the motivation needed to persue that, as well as other forms of hypnosis to resolve some past mental anguish.

[Honeywith4bees]

Originally Posted by scorpio1980

Thanks, I don't think this arthritis, because it's not a pain that showed up for no reason. I was injured everytime. The issue that i'm trying to figure out, is why was it so easy to injure. I'm thinking it could be emotional issues deep down, and perhaps structural issues from years of abuse. I am going to eat a raw cleansing diet for the next 21 days, see a second doctor for his opinion, and go back to the chiropractor. I may go to physical therapy. Will probably get a good massage, maybe go back to get acupuncture, and when I feel like my wrists are a little better I will enroll in yoga, because I have been wanting to anyways. I have always wanted to get past life regression done, and this may be just the motivation needed to persue that, as well as other forms of hypnosis to resolve some past mental anguish.

Sounds like you got a plan Scorpio!
If you're interested, I practice Anusara Yoga, which is heavily into proper alignment principles and I know they have some studios down South. Maybe worth checking out . . .

[spacecadetglow]

Ooh, I didn't realize you were hiking up mountains 4-5 times a week! I don't think that'd be all that great for your ankles? I mean, do what feels good to you, but yeah I can understand your frustration...

It's hard posting about your health on forums because you get so much conflicting advice. :-\ If I were you, I'd focus in on just a few of the tips you've gotten and see what helps.

Also, I'll say it again: EPSOM SALT BATHS! Takes the ache right out of your body.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by spacecadetglow

Ooh, I didn't realize you were hiking up mountains 4-5 times a week! I don't think that'd be all that great for your ankles? I mean, do what feels good to you, but yeah I can understand your frustration...

It's hard posting about your health on forums because you get so much conflicting advice. :-\ If I were you, I'd focus in on just a few of the tips you've gotten and see what helps.

Also, I'll say it again: EPSOM SALT BATHS! Takes the ache right out of your body.

I'll try the epson salt bath. Thanks.

[Lauxa]

Hm, also, what shoes do you wear? There are a lot of people that think wearing too much padding in your shoes leads to injury. The theory is that your muscles in your ankle should be stabilizing your foot and if you don't let them do that they will atrophy and then you are more prone to injury. The amount of foot and ankle injuries in regions that don't wear shoes is far less. Think about going barefoot or minimal shoes.

[Lauxa]

Also, I have always found rock climbing, hanging from a bar, and upright rows to be good for radiating pain in wrists and tendons. It stretches out the tendons and builds up the lats. If your lats are not strong enough then the tension will build up in your arms.

[richardxthripp]

Make sure you are getting adequate nutrition and take a multi-vitamin every day. Maybe you have osteoporosis? Get plenty of calcium.

[Happy Giraffe]

Would you be willing to consider seeing a rheumatologist? They specialize in diseases of the joints and connective tissues, and indeed the whole cluster of symptoms you describe suggests there is a systemic process going on. Since you enjoy being outside and being active, truly it would be helpful to you to get a diagnosis and figure out how to minimize any damage that might be occurring.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by Lauxa

Also, I have always found rock climbing, hanging from a bar, and upright rows to be good for radiating pain in wrists and tendons. It stretches out the tendons and builds up the lats. If your lats are not strong enough then the tension will build up in your arms.

To reply to your other post. I usually wear tennis shoes. They are comfy, but not overly padded. My lats are pretty strong, because my workout consisted of lots of pull ups, shoulder presses, and dips.