I'm in pain, and not sure what to do.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by richardxthripp

Make sure you are getting adequate nutrition and take a multi-vitamin every day. Maybe you have osteoporosis? Get plenty of calcium.

I don't believe in multi vitamins, but I do take a whole foods based green powder. I eat a bit of kale, and other greens for calcium.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by Happy Giraffe

Would you be willing to consider seeing a rheumatologist? They specialize in diseases of the joints and connective tissues, and indeed the whole cluster of symptoms you describe suggests there is a systemic process going on. Since you enjoy being outside and being active, truly it would be helpful to you to get a diagnosis and figure out how to minimize any damage that might be occurring.

Well i'm not much into medical doctors, they usually just want to give you a bunch of pills. I may go see a osteopath, because they use a more holistic approach.

[cacheborn]

Originally Posted by scorpio1980

I do appreciate your response, but since moving towards a more healthy lifestyle I have given up all medications, even asprin. I do know that some are anti-inflammatory, but so are raw veggie juices. I have a very good ability to deal with pain. I can deal with the pain, but I can't get to a normal life with it. I am wondering about the weak bones thing myself. It could be a part of it. I have a feeling that a lot of this is my body finally falling victim to all the abuse I did to it through the years, and I need to get serious with my nutrition. I have decided to go on a raw diet for the next 21 days. I have tried raw quite a few times, but could only get to day 7 one time, and day 5 about 3 weeks ago. I have a problem with it though, because all the sugar gives me low energy, and I can't really eat salad at work. Maybe I will take hemp seeds to work with me this time. Work seems to be the downfall to my raw food trials each time, and of course to my desire to fast, and my stress levels. I have a plan to quit this job when I have 6 months of expenses saved, which will be a number of months, until then I have to tackle this in lesser ways.

Yes, I understand your point of view. Many times, normal medicines cause more harm than good. I prefer to use both normal and alternative medicine. I have used homeopathy in the past to get some great results. From my experience, you can benefit immensely if you can find a person who is an expert in a branch of alternative medicine, whichever you may want to chose. The only risk in pursuing that line is if you spend too much time in trial and error, your condition may get worse.

I am going to the clinic now to get the tests done. Wishing you good luck with yours.

[scorpio1980]

Has anyone ever heard of prolotherapy? I am thinking about checking it out. The following is what I found off a osteopaths site.

What is prolotherapy?

Prolotherapy is the use of injections to stimulate your body to heal connective tissue such as ligaments, tendons or joints. It is performed in our office and people can usually resume normal activities and drive home immediately after the procedure. It is overall 80 to 90 percent successful.

How does it work?

Medication, usually concentrated dextrose (sugar) mixed with anesthetic, is injected into the injured, painful and dysfunctional areas. This stimulates your body’s natural mechanism of healing and repair. The resulting cellular and biochemical processes make the areas stronger, more stable and less painful. The injections are often repeated over weeks to months until complete healing is attained. Most people tolerate the procedure very well. Premedication is available to make you more comfortable if needed.

What is the scientific evidence?

Prolotherapy is proven in clinical studies to help low back pain, arthritis of the knee and hands, and unstable knee ligaments. It is proven to make ligaments 40 to 60 percent thicker and stronger. It does not create scar tissue. Evidence for its use in other conditions is based on over 60 years of positive clinical results in practitioner’s offices around the world. The incidence of side effects or complications is very low.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by cacheborn

Yes, I understand your point of view. Many times, normal medicines cause more harm than good. I prefer to use both normal and alternative medicine. I have used homeopathy in the past to get some great results. From my experience, you can benefit immensely if you can find a person who is an expert in a branch of alternative medicine, whichever you may want to chose. The only risk in pursuing that line is if you spend too much time in trial and error, your condition may get worse.

I am going to the clinic now to get the tests done. Wishing you good luck with yours.

Thanks, and good luck to you as well.

[SireneB]

One of my daughter's friends had prolotherapy when they were in high school (they were athletes - training in dance at an arts high school). She had the injections (sugar water) in her back based on a diagnosis of weak ligaments made by a kinesiologist who treated several of the dancers. Short term it helped the pain, maybe because it was a shock to the system. Long term, it didn't really solve her problem. My daughter had a similar issue with her back several years later and was able to resolve through core training (Cyr wheel) and acupuncture - took about 9 months of rehab work. But you're not talking about back pain, so not sure how applicable that would be.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by SireneB

One of my daughter's friends had prolotherapy when they were in high school (they were athletes - training in dance at an arts high school). She had the injections (sugar water) in her back based on a diagnosis of weak ligaments made by a kinesiologist who treated several of the dancers. Short term it helped the pain, maybe because it was a shock to the system. Long term, it didn't really solve her problem. My daughter had a similar issue with her back several years later and was able to resolve through core training (Cyr wheel) and acupuncture - took about 9 months of rehab work. But you're not talking about back pain, so not sure how applicable that would be.

Thanks for the info.

[cacheborn]

All tests negative. There is nothing wrong with me. And the doctor has no clue as to why I am having these pains.

[scorpio1980]

Originally Posted by cacheborn

All tests negative. There is nothing wrong with me. And the doctor has no clue as to why I am having these pains.

I found a holistic physical therapy place that may be able to help me. The testimonials are amazing there. Well atleast you have nothing serious in the tests. Maybe you are eating wheat or dairy possibly, and could be allergic causing inflamation? Good luck to you.

[danthony]

Might be worth seeing a joint therapist and taking a supplement such as Otheo Bi-Flex to soothe your joints. Ice and elevate the pain affected limbs at night. All that should help.

[cacheborn]

Originally Posted by scorpio1980

I found a holistic physical therapy place that may be able to help me. The testimonials are amazing there. Well atleast you have nothing serious in the tests. Maybe you are eating wheat or dairy possibly, and could be allergic causing inflamation? Good luck to you.

Thanks and wish you the same.
yes, I eat wheat and dairy but I have been doing it all my life, so if I was allergic, I would have found it long back. Trying to think of other factors that could lead to this.