What Does San Diego Think is Good for Health

[ginkgo]

San Diego City Council and Mayor Declare 'Veg Week' beginning Oct. 2nd. The Animal Protection and Rescue League is asking San Diegans to go veg for the week to prevent animal cruelty, protect the environment, and improve their health.

San Diego City Council and Mayor Declare 'Veg Week' -- SAN DIEGO, Sept. 28 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

President Bill Clinton also recently announced that he is following a largely plant-based diet to improve his health.

[LostMyMap]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

San Diego City Council and Mayor Declare 'Veg Week' beginning Oct. 2nd. The Animal Protection and Rescue League is asking San Diegans to go veg for the week to prevent animal cruelty, protect the environment, and improve their health.

San Diego City Council and Mayor Declare 'Veg Week' -- SAN DIEGO, Sept. 28 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

President Bill Clinton also recently announced that he is following a largely plant-based diet to improve his health.

ZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZ, * huh, what? What happened? They did what? Oh I see. They couldn't fix our crumbling roads, the corruption or the financial mess the city is in. But they can vote on veg week. Right. Wake me up again when it's time to light the grill for our steak dinner tonight.

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[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

San Diego City Council and Mayor Declare 'Veg Week' beginning Oct. 2nd. The Animal Protection and Rescue League is asking San Diegans to go veg for the week to prevent animal cruelty, protect the environment, and improve their health.

San Diego City Council and Mayor Declare 'Veg Week' -- SAN DIEGO, Sept. 28 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

President Bill Clinton also recently announced that he is following a largely plant-based diet to improve his health.

a week of no meat will create a week of binging on meat. How they think this will stop ANYTHING, is beyond me. How about a "week of only farm raised organic cruelty free meat eating". Oh yeah, that doesn't fit into their propaganda/agenda.

Oh, you mean Bill Clinton not eating complete crap, and cutting his calories down, is making him healthy? Oh, you say that it just so happens that while he's getting healthy from not eating complete crap and cutting calories, he's also eating mostly veggies? That means being a vegetarian is good why?

[Beuford]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

How about a "week of only farm raised organic cruelty free meat eating".

I don't think a lot of people are going to be able to afford that and travelling out to a farm might be an issue. It is a lot easier and cheaper and more convenient to just have no meat for 1 week. It might take me 10 hours of travelling to ride my bicycle to the nearest organic cruelty free meat farm while the shops that sell plants are 15 minutes of walking away and offer much cheaper prices. So if they had a week of only farm raised organic cruelty free meat eating they will not get much support and it will be a waste of time.

[votoshka]

Why do you think going without meat for a week would make people binge on it??

Many may actually feel better for having less meat and may decide to incorporate less in their lives in future (I'm sure not everyone mind you LOL) but plenty of people have meat daily when they could easily cut down to having it two or three times a week.

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by Beuford

I don't think a lot of people are going to be able to afford that and travelling out to a farm might be an issue. It is a lot easier and cheaper and more convenient to just have no meat for 1 week. It might take me 10 hours of travelling to ride my bicycle to the nearest organic cruelty free meat farm while the shops that sell plants are 15 minutes of walking away and offer much cheaper prices. So if they had a week of only farm raised organic cruelty free meat eating they will not get much support and it will be a waste of time.

So instead of raising awareness and trying to change the entire meat production industry, you want to eliminate it. When has trying to eliminate anything ever worked? EVER? This will get just as little support and be just as big of a waste of time.

What will one week do? What awareness will it bring? It will bring awareness to meat eaters that they really miss meat. These movement things never work. People try them for awhile, thinking they are helping, and then they give up. Notice how "global warming" seems to be kinda disappearing from peoples minds? It's not on the news as often as it used to be. People are concerned with MONEY. They couldn't give a rats ass if some cow in some factory, is not being treated well.

If people ate less meat, and bought the quality meat, then they COULD afford it. But no, they want people to eat NO meat, instead of teaching people about QUALITY meat and not consuming as much. That's called an agenda, and that's called being so stuck up in their agenda that they can't budge and accept that people will always eat meat. Just because you only have a bike to ride to the nearest store, doesn't mean the rest of the population is like that. Don't project your own situation onto everyone else, when everyone else is not like you. Meat eaters who don't have enough money to drive somewhere to buy meat, more then likely don't care about eating healthy. They are eating fast food and things that will last them weeks. You think they are going to go out and get fresh fruit and veggies?

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by votoshka

Why do you think going without meat for a week would make people binge on it??

Many may actually feel better for having less meat and may decide to incorporate less in their lives in future (I'm sure not everyone mind you LOL) but plenty of people have meat daily when they could easily cut down to having it two or three times a week.

Why do you think that people going with out meat for a week is going to get them to cut down to only having it two or three times a week? Why do you think people are actually going to be willing to not eat meat for a week? What do you think they will be eating in the mean time? Really healthy food? I doubt that. People will binge, because that's what people do. When they go with out something for awhile, they always pig out. Hell, take people who fast. I've read time and time again where the person pigs out on steak and ribs and etc, right after fasting. Doing something for a week doesn't change anything in the body or mind.

This is absolutely the wrong way to approach this situation.

How about a " don't eat fast food for a week".... NO, they focus squarely on MEAT, when meat isn't the problem. The food industry in general is the problem. And this little week long no meat thing doesn't focus on the food industry. It demonizes one type of food, THAT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN TO BE UNHEALTHY.

We've all see the " don't buy gas for a day, it will destroy the industry". Has it? No.

[Beuford]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

Just because you only have a bike to ride to the nearest store, doesn't mean the rest of the population is like that. Don't project your own situation onto everyone else, when everyone else is not like you.

So I guess for some people, the cruelty free organic meat farm is a lot closer than the vegetable store.

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by Beuford

So I guess for some people, the cruelty free organic meat farm is a lot closer than the vegetable store.

I don't think you are understanding it. People who eat meat don't care if the organic meat store is further away from the vegetable store. People who want good quality meat, feel it's more then worth it, AND they can afford to drive a little further, and they usually buy the veggies there while they are at it. We aren't talking about bicycle riders. To be honest, I don't think most bicycle riders eat much meat to begin with, nor can they afford to eat that much food period. So people like you wouldn't effect anything by not eating meat for a week, because either you already don't, or you don't eat enough for it to matter. The only people that are going to go through with this little experiment, are those who don't care about meat much at all, and or don't eat much meat anyways. The biggest consumers of meat are fast food people. You really think they are going to stop eating meat for a week? And as I asked votoska, what are they going to consume instead, and do you think that food is going to be better for then or the environment?

[Beuford]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

The biggest consumers of meat are fast food people. You really think they are going to stop eating meat for a week? And as I asked votoska, what are they going to consume instead, and do you think that food is going to be better for then or the environment?

Maybe some of them will and after it they will realise they can eat other foods also like lentils or something. It will be better for them and the environment because it takes much less resources to create. If you want to feed 6.7 billion people you can't feed them organic grass fed cruelty free meat unless you want to eat like 50 grams of it a day(I don't say that everyone should be completely vegan). But you can feed them fruits and vegetables. Telling people to stop eating junkfood and start eating organic meat might do something for their health, but it won't do anything for the environment.

[garentee]

[QUOTE=Beuford;718320]I don't think a lot of people are going to be able to afford that and travelling out to a farm might be an issue. It is a lot easier and cheaper and more convenient to just have no meat for 1 week. It might take me 10 hours of travelling to ride my bicycle to the nearest organic cruelty free meat farm while the shops that sell plants are 15 minutes of walking away and offer much cheaper prices. So if they had a week of only farm raised organic cruelty free meat eating they will not get much support and it will be a waste of time.[/QUOTE

You may be surprised to know that this kind of product is available at your local farmers market. Not only that, That it would not be a waste of time because supporting farmers keeps urban sprawl in check,keeps money in the community,maintains healthy soil, and helps insure a healthy food supply. To find a farmer check Local Harvest / Farmers Markets / Family Farms / CSA / Organic Food

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by Beuford

Maybe some of them will and after it they will realise they can eat other foods also like lentils or something. It will be better for them and the environment because it takes much less resources to create. If you want to feed 6.7 billion people you can't feed them organic grass fed cruelty free meat unless you want to eat like 50 grams of it a day(I don't say that everyone should be completely vegan). But you can feed them fruits and vegetables. Telling people to stop eating junkfood and start eating organic meat might do something for their health, but it won't do anything for the environment.

Where do you think all the fertilizer comes from for all the plants that people currently eat? Where did your 6.7 billion number come from? You do know that AT LEAST 1 billion people are vegetarian already right? That's just one country. Then you have many other countries that just eat seafood. When you get down to it, the amount of people who eat meat isn't as high as you make it out to be. Not to mention that a few billion of those people probably do only eat 50 grams of meat a day, as that's all they can afford. Telling people to stop eating junk food WILL lower the meat consumption, as junk food meat is the top contributor to meat consumption. Would you like me to figure break apart your argument? or at least respond to the rest of my post. You know, I took time an effort to write it.