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Brutha · 09-30-2010, 08:52 PM

In an attempt to improve my diet I read a lot of stuff about getting rid of grains.
If you don't eat bread for breakfast, what do you eat?

russianrocket · 09-30-2010, 08:55 PM

steak.
or eggs.

oh and thanks for reminding me. I just went and seared me up some steak I had sitting on the counter warming up

.

Instead of bread tho, I used to always wake up to fruit.

Angela · 09-30-2010, 09:01 PM

oatmeal with blueberries and a smooshed up banana. yummy.

Angela · 09-30-2010, 09:01 PM

oh, oops, that's a grain, isn't it, sorry.

secrets0stolen · 09-30-2010, 09:11 PM

A smoothie

Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi · 09-30-2010, 09:52 PM

yogurt, fruit

moonrambler · 09-30-2010, 10:18 PM

Eggs and potatoes. Or an omelet which can contain pretty much anything you like.

curiouslyrandom · 09-30-2010, 10:55 PM

I'm allergic to wheat, so a fruit smoothie and omelet is nice.

Angelique · 09-30-2010, 11:24 PM

apple + peanut butter

ssandra · 09-30-2010, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelique

apple + peanut butter

Wait... what? You eat peanut butter on your apple....?????

Anyway:

Fruit, Eggs, Quesadilla's or just coffee...

Angelique · 09-30-2010, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssandra

Wait... what? You eat peanut butter on your apple....?????

Anyway:

Fruit, Eggs, Quesadilla's or just coffee...

Yeah, or separately on a spoon. I also have bananas with peanut butter sometimes.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Coffee too.

Groundless · 09-30-2010, 11:56 PM

The morning feeding is the most important one to avoid the sugar-insulin response. Anything without carbohydrates would be the best.

From what I see of your picture you don't have to worry about calories too much.

One suggestion:
4 raw eggs, 1/2C Heavy cream, Extract flavor of your choice, stevia if you need the sweet taste.

Another suggestion:
Cleochatra's Oopsie Rolls Recipe

Everyone in the family likes these oopsie rolls when I take the 10 minutes to make them.

Last suggestion:
Pork chops & eggs

Brutha · 10-01-2010, 12:37 AM

Quote:

From what I see of your picture you don't have to worry about calories too much.

Yes, gaining weight would be good.

ssandra · 10-01-2010, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutha

Yes, gaining weight would be good.

Then maybe you should try the apples with peanut butter......

Groundless · 10-01-2010, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssandra

Then maybe you should try the apples with peanut butter......

Dang! You beat me to it!

Actually, what happens when eating a diet with more herbivore meat and closer to zero carbs is fat people lose the fat and skinny people put on muscle. I have no idea why, it just seems to work out that way.

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Several people's personal journals spell out their health healing process. Many are seemingly fit but have health problems to solve. Maybe some will interest you enough to read the process of their quest to solve their health issues.

Or not, I wish you success in your quest for health either way.

Cantando · 10-01-2010, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutha

Yes, gaining weight would be good.

Get a good English brekker down you - eggs, bacon, sausages, mushrooms, tomato and black pudding!

Cantando · 10-01-2010, 10:23 AM

A traditional Chinese breakfast is congee - rice gruel. It can be sweet or savoury.

You could save time by making it up the night before, then just heat it up in the microwave the following morning.

Does anyone have a favourite recipe for this?

Andrew Gubb · 10-01-2010, 10:28 AM

I usually have a whole 3 kilo melon, 3 or 4 kilos of oranges made into juice, half a watermelon or a smoothie. I like something light/semiliquid in the mornings.

Fruit is definitely the healthiest way to go, it might not help you with gaining weight though.

Brutha · 10-01-2010, 12:21 PM

Quote:

A traditional Chinese breakfast is congee - rice gruel. It can be sweet or savoury.

Rice is a grain.

Andrew Gubb · 10-01-2010, 01:06 PM

I felt like adding a bit more to this.

Are you already a vegetarian/vegan Brutha?

I feel like there is a scale of toxicity (and actually I read this somewhere too) which goes

Artificial additives in general, crazy modifications to food like hydrogenation of fat

Meat

Milk + products

Eggs

Soy, peanuts, coffee, tea, chocolate

Wheat

Other grains

Starchy tubers

Other vegetables (the best are tender leafy vegetables + celery)

Fruit

... obviously raw is healthier than cooked, though raw meat is a bit dangerous unless you do it right (as well as hard to chew) and raw grains are indigestible and toxic.

If you want to remain on a cooked food diet, you need to focus on tubers to displace grains. However, I wouldn't see any point in that unless you'd first gotten rid of animal foods, addictive substances like coffee, any artificial additive, etc.

In practise most people jump from cooked vegan with grains to raw vegan (fruit and vegetable based diet) and eliminate grains in the process. Unless you want to take things really slow, it seems almost less trouble to do this. I mean, a tuber eating cooked food vegan would have a lot of problems going to restaurants etc, which is one of the reasons people don't want to go raw. It'd be almost equally inconvenient.

If you want to learn how to do a fruit based diet, read "The 80/10/10 Diet" by Douglas Graham.

DISCLAIMER: Everything in this post is my opinion and I don't claim otherwise. I'm not insecure about my opinion, so if you attack it, I will choose not to defend it. I'm not here to be right, I'm here to offer a perspective that may be of help. Anyone who wants to make use of my perspective obviously needs to think for themselves.

Cantando · 10-01-2010, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutha

Rice is a grain.

Well, change the title then to:

Breakfast alternatives without grain

moonrambler · 10-01-2010, 01:15 PM

If you might consider just avoiding bread and not all grain, I also like rice for breakfast. Brown or Basmati rice with butter and Parmesan

Honeywith4bees · 10-01-2010, 01:17 PM

I was going to say apple and peanut butter as well. My son and I have that at least twice a week.

Brutha · 10-01-2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Well, change the title then to:

Breakfast alternatives without grain

It's tricky when you have to read the actual post isn't it?

Quote:

Are you already a vegetarian/vegan Brutha?

No.

Quote:

I feel like there is a scale of toxicity (and actually I read this somewhere too) which goes

There are people who make all sorts of unsubstantiated claims around the internet. That doesn't make them true.
Especially among the vegan community there little appreciation in empiric principle and everything that agrees with their preconceived notions gets repeat as truth.

russianrocket · 10-01-2010, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutha

There are people who make all sorts of unsubstantiated claims around the internet. That doesn't make them true.
Especially among the vegan community there little appreciation in empiric principle and everything that agrees with their preconceived notions gets repeat as truth.

Thanks. Saved me the trouble of being accused of not leaving him alone lol.

ssandra · 10-01-2010, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutha

There are people who make all sorts of unsubstantiated claims around the internet. That doesn't make them true.
Especially among the vegan community there little appreciation in empiric principle and everything that agrees with their preconceived notions gets repeat as truth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by russianrocket

Thanks. Saved me the trouble of being accused of not leaving him alone lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

DISCLAIMER: Everything in this post is my opinion and I don't claim otherwise. I'm not insecure about my opinion, so if you attack it, I will choose not to defend it. I'm not here to be right, I'm here to offer a perspective that may be of help. Anyone who wants to make use of my perspective obviously needs to think for themselves.

People who attach too much meaning to anything are funny

secrets0stolen · 10-01-2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssandra

People who attach too much meaning to anything are funny

Finally

russianrocket · 10-01-2010, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssandra

People who attach too much meaning to anything are funny

can't just post a disclaimer and shrug off responsibility fo everything you say

Brutha · 10-01-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

People who attach too much meaning to anything are funny

In the end I think that's a good idea to attach meaning to being healthy. To be healthy you have to make decisions that are effective.
To make effective decisions you have to test whether your ideas are true. Debating ideas is a way to test them.

Quote:

I'm not insecure about my opinion, so if you attack it, I will choose not to defend it.

Actually not standing up for your ideas isn't exactly a sign of personal conviction in their truth.

Lifeisamazing · 10-01-2010, 05:37 PM

A few ideas:
1. Nuts+raisins+banana chips+papaya slices all mixed.
2. Cottage cheese+milk+bananas for a smoothie/shake.
3. Pancakes with peanut butter.
4. Pancakes with cheese.
5. Omelet with bacon, chicken, beef or whatever else.

09-30-2010, 08:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Brutha Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 8,749	Breakfast alternatives without bread In an attempt to improve my diet I read a lot of stuff about getting rid of grains. If you don't eat bread for breakfast, what do you eat?

09-30-2010, 08:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
russianrocket Family Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 3,302	steak. or eggs. oh and thanks for reminding me. I just went and seared me up some steak I had sitting on the counter warming up . Instead of bread tho, I used to always wake up to fruit. Last edited by russianrocket; 09-30-2010 at 09:02 PM.

10-01-2010, 01:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
Andrew Gubb Family Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nationality: British Soul: Otherworldly Current Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 5,960	I felt like adding a bit more to this. Are you already a vegetarian/vegan Brutha? I feel like there is a scale of toxicity (and actually I read this somewhere too) which goes Artificial additives in general, crazy modifications to food like hydrogenation of fat Meat Milk + products Eggs Soy, peanuts, coffee, tea, chocolate Wheat Other grains Starchy tubers Other vegetables (the best are tender leafy vegetables + celery) Fruit ... obviously raw is healthier than cooked, though raw meat is a bit dangerous unless you do it right (as well as hard to chew) and raw grains are indigestible and toxic. If you want to remain on a cooked food diet, you need to focus on tubers to displace grains. However, I wouldn't see any point in that unless you'd first gotten rid of animal foods, addictive substances like coffee, any artificial additive, etc. In practise most people jump from cooked vegan with grains to raw vegan (fruit and vegetable based diet) and eliminate grains in the process. Unless you want to take things really slow, it seems almost less trouble to do this. I mean, a tuber eating cooked food vegan would have a lot of problems going to restaurants etc, which is one of the reasons people don't want to go raw. It'd be almost equally inconvenient. If you want to learn how to do a fruit based diet, read "The 80/10/10 Diet" by Douglas Graham. DISCLAIMER: Everything in this post is my opinion and I don't claim otherwise. I'm not insecure about my opinion, so if you attack it, I will choose not to defend it. I'm not here to be right, I'm here to offer a perspective that may be of help. Anyone who wants to make use of my perspective obviously needs to think for themselves. Last edited by Andrew Gubb; 10-01-2010 at 01:16 PM.

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