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About your experiences I'd say some people can handle vegetarianism well (I'm one of them as long as I'm wheat free) and others not so well. Those who say "everyone will fail as a vegan or vegetarian" or "everyone will succeed as a vegan or vegetarian" are delusional. In my experience black people seem to have more success as vegans and predictably Nordic types less success (though I'm of Northern European stock and I do pretty well). |
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| I love animals, that's why I eat them.
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| We're all very much focused on the physical benefits of a non-vegetarian diet, however, you should realize that eating meat offers no spiritual benefits. I don't think anyone here has talked about the spiritual benefits of a vegetarian diet. Keeping away from flesh has great increased my ability to meditate and keep my mind clear of unwanted thoughts (less disturbance). Not to mention I am able to sit still without any movement/pain in meditation for nearly an hour.. (which I'm practicing to increase) If you're a believer in the idea that our purpose while on earth should be God-realization, then it's pretty obvious by experimentation with your own body that certain foods inhibit further stages of meditation. We can talk and debate all we want on the physical benefits.. to which I would agree that eating meat would probably give you a more muscular body.. but that's all meaningless if you realize that YOU are NOT the physical body.. but YOU are actually the soul within that body... Ultimately, my view is that you should decide what diet is best for you based on your ultimate goal.. If your goal is to have a great physique.. then by all means go for the meat diet.. If your goal is to realize your true potential (soul).. then a vegetarian diet is ideal..
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I'd agree with the assertion that vegetarianism, veganism or, for that matter, a meat-eating diet isn't for everyone. What I wouldn't agree with is trying to extrapolate your personal experience to some sort of universal truth. Personally, trying to rationalize your own experience in this manner is not only intellectually dishonest but a huge waste of time. If I remember correctly our associate Mr. Pavlina did a blog entry about health studies that suggested that it was pretty much pointless to base your health decisions on them. In addition to other considerations, "everyone has an agenda". I'd extend this to include dietary matters. It doesn't matter how much research and study you do on the subject when you've already made up your mind one way or the other going in. http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...-about-health/
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| escapee, obviously starving kids fed only beans and corn are gonna benefit from animal products. just as kids fed nothing but chicken would benefit if you gave them some green vegetables in addition. |
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| I dont eat meat because 1) I dont like it and 2) I can't abide the cruelty in the poultry and cattle market. I have not eaten meat for over ten years. I substitute soy protien and nuts. My diet also includes supplements for those nutrients I cannot get in a vegan diet. I am sixty years old, slim and very healthy. I often wonder why a person feels free to slaughter and eat a calf when they would protest the killing and consumption of puppies. Whether one is vegan or not, healthy eating depends on making intelligent choices. |
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You would be surprised to find that Natural Health Gurus Ate Animal Foods
__________________ Download free pc games | Play relaxing games |Free car games | Dress up games | Arcade games Last edited by escapee : 03-09-2007 at 01:11 AM. |
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| Oh, please. Do you believe your focus and ability to meditate effectively or become more attuned with your spirit is greater than Mr. Conan's? Just look at him. Do you realize how much focus, how much alignment with spirit it takes to build a "temple" like his? |
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| Looks like you got your first groupie Conan the Barbarian. |
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| If the good lord doesn't want us to eat animals why did he make them so tasty? \
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| No, I'm more of a jazz musician groupie. It's just the attitude that sitting cross-legged, speaking softly, burning incense, and eating yeast is somehow more spiritual than taking real, focused action to increase your vitality, strength, and personal power -- because "you are not your body" ...... pish posh. feh. |
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Whey Protein - Nature's Amazing Muscle Builder
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| Yeah of course you need protein, I'd choose hemp over whey though. |
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| as nina plank said, a video of industrial farming is enough to make a veggie out of anyone -but that is just another reason why i buy grass fed and free range beef and poultry -i used to think that was whacky granola stuff but it really makes sense both from health and moral grounds a well raised cow raised as a cow should be is good for the cow and us |
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A person aligned with spirit comes to the realization that the mind, the senses, the body... are just illusions.. ultimately those are the very things that make humans attached to worldly desires.. For example, we want to indulge in things that taste good, or feel great, etc.. which is fine, it's part of human nature... However the challenge is to go beyond that.. and if you do research on any true spiritual teaching, it will promote detachment of worldly desires.. How else can you focus your energy on spirit if you have so many worldly distractions taking your focus away from your goal? A 'temple' is not judged by how well it's built.. but rather how pure it is from the inside...
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- - - I'd have to say that giving your power away to food causes great confusion.
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