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Old 05-19-2010, 04:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering if anyone's experienced an emotional healing that resulted in physical illness? I've been going through some heavy duty emotional healing related to past abuse issues from childhood and I realized I have been sick several times with the flu, a cold and a fever within the past six weeks.

I totally believe in a connection between mind and body. I was wondering if the release of pent up emotions kind of relieved some stress in my body that came out as sickness?

Any ideas?
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Here is a quote from The Nature of Personal Reality by Seth/Jane Roberts:

"Illnesses usually represent unfaced problems, in your terms, and these dilemmas embody challenges meant to lead you to greater achievement and fulfillment. Because body and mind operate so well together, one will attempt to cure the other, and will succeed if left alone. The organism has its own beliefs in health that are unconscious on your part."

From this it would seem that the illness is a result of the "toxin" from those issues manifesting through the body. Though what you cite such as flu, cold, etc. is unpleasant consider yourself fortunate that they are not severe manifestations.

Now, what is of note in the above quote is the last line about the organism having its own beliefs. I'm not going to get into an exposition about beliefs but the point here is that the body is going to adjust in the way that it wants to adjust even if you're not aware exactly how it goes about doing this. With that in mind here are two more quotes from Seth:

"As your cells have their own memories, so the conscious mind has a more overt kind of memory. Your conscious thoughts act as triggers, bringing both kinds of memory into activation. Within your physical being then each joyful, expanding, traumatic and tragic "past" event lies indelibly written. In your terms this is your working material, the memory of your physical being since the time of its conception in corporeal form. There are [in your memory] the most complex organizations and associative frameworks that exist both in the depths of your cellular structure and in the highest reaches of your conscious activity."

"Each physical cell is in its way a miniature brain, with memory of all of its personal experiences and of its relationship with other cells, and with the body as a whole. In your terms this means that each cell operates with an innate picture of the body's entire history - past, present, and future."


Perhaps you may find the mention of cells knowing the "future" a bit odd and to get a better understanding of that I would suggest you read the book since it is too detailed to explain here.

But the point in your situation is that the healing in some manner noted those particular memory cells and they "rose to the surface" so to speak. The surface is of course going to react and adjust. Gesundheit.

Quoting from something is never a substitute for first-hand experience. Thus I will again say that you are fortunate that your symptoms are manageable ones and of brief duration. I know whereof I speak.

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I believe that physical illness can be our bodies way of releasing negative energy.

I have also been told after having a massage to drink plenty of water because when your muscles relax, they release all the built up toxins into your system.

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Actually it is the opposite and I can give you countless examples. Now you are saying that you experienced the opposite. The reason that people say "God bless you" when you sneeze is because they think that an evil spirit is tying to posess your body, not to eject dust out of your nose. They are wrong, but they used to be considered right. To quote Michael Jackson, "They are ignorant." Also the flu is short for influenza since what causes it is not viruses, but the influence of the stars.

So an N.D. gives an example of how 2 people eat the same bad food and one gets nauseous and vomits and the other has mild indigestion. Who is healthier. The guy who vomits is healthier. Here is a wepage that explains how colds and flus are good for health.

Here is an article I have on many places on the internet: You Will Not Get the Flu Unless you Need To It is on the site cold-flu-treatment.info

I can prove that colds and flus are good for health with math. "Numbers do not lie." Kids get the most flus and live an average of 60 more years. Old people get the least flus and live an average of 20 years longer.

You have other priorities than the health of your body but the body has an intelligence that only cares about your health. It does not care if you cannot pay your rent. It does not care if your husband leaves you. So the person stuffs his face with lots of unhealthy foods for enjoyment. Then he has lots of things to do and tries to get away with as little sleep as possible. So the body's intelligence grabs hold of any virus it can find and then forces the person to get lots of sleep and eat a lot less.

Many doing a fast or the lemonade diet will get colds or flus while doing it. So after 5 days of fasting they are supposed to be healthier and then get "sick." See the numbers above. Fasting is the most powerful anti-aging method that there is. The healthy person gets an acute (temporary) health problem and gets healtheir. The unhealthy person gets an acute health problem and fights it and ends up with a chronic (permanent) problem.

I wish that I could take credit for coming up with above but it was taught by MDs in the 1800s that were hygienists and later by Dr Shelton and his many followers. So the cute sicknesses that you got, actually extended your life span. I mean acute sicknesses not cute sicknesses. Those articles also explain how to never get flus by making it so your body does not need them. It also explains what cold weather has to do with colds and flus.

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I believe that physical illness can be our bodies way of releasing negative energy.

I have also been told after having a massage to drink plenty of water because when your muscles relax, they release all the built up toxins into your system.
Drinking extra water does not help your body get rid of toxins any faster. Just ask any faster. To help the body get rid of toxins after a massage or after a marathon, take a hot bath. The 2 countries with the longest living people are Okinawa and Japan. A big part of their culture is taking very, very hot (compared to Americans) baths.

Actually many women in America worship the hot bath like with salts, suds, nice aromas, candles and a good book!

Also in the articles above about colds and flus, hot baths has the opposite effect on you as cold weather. Cold-- contraction, hot-- expansion.

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I'm totally in agreement with ginkgo on this one. It sounds like once the body no longer had a huge energy drain of emotional garbage it had a chance to kick up some healing. Once I permanently lost 8-10 pound of excess weight in a month when I organized my belongings and got rid of the ones I didn't have a use for any more. I wasn't trying to lose weight, and I wasn't obese but I did have plenty of excess fat. I felt horrible that whole month, but after it was over with I felt better than before. I guess dropping some baggage helped me drop some baggage.
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I'm totally in agreement with ginkgo on this one. It sounds like once the body no longer had a huge energy drain of emotional garbage it had a chance to kick up some healing. Once I permanently lost 8-10 pound of excess weight in a month when I organized my belongings and got rid of the ones I didn't have a use for any more. I wasn't trying to lose weight, and I wasn't obese but I did have plenty of excess fat. I felt horrible that whole month, but after it was over with I felt better than before. I guess dropping some baggage helped me drop some baggage.
That is a great story about holding on. You were holding on to excess belongings that you did not need. Then when you were able to let go of those belongings then your body was able to let go of excess fat that it did not need.
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Thanks for the replies!

Well I've got 35 pounds to lose. I'm hoping that as I let go of emotions I've been holding in, the weight will release also. Does that sound possible?
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Well, I certainly have that same hope.
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Everybody needs energy, and the more emotional baggage you have, the less energy you have available for your everyday life. So far so good...

One possibility to charge yourself up with energy (as in spiritual) is eating. Sure, some foods will drain more in the long run than they give, but immediately after eating anything, your energy level goes up (you're feeling calm, happy, having met a need/craving). Now, while some people get used to charge their battery with bad and too much food, they put on weight (that's the "material energy" or ATP). Partly because there are so many calories to store, partly because there are toxins from bad foods to be eliminated from the blood flow into fat cells.

When you start dealing with emotional problems, your energy drain from them is decreasing constantly, which means your default energy level increases, which means your need to eat for (spiritual) energy decreases. What happens when you eat less than your body needs? You lose fat, and along with fat, all the stored toxins are being released from the fat tissue as well, causing inflammations, a busy immune system, and feeling like crap.

What if you're not losing any weight yet? The body is always manifesting psychological problems, for example with gall stones, which are not always in the gall bladder, but can also be pretty small and stay in the liver. The result is, that your liver gets clogged, and toxic waste builds up, which is normally supposed to be released with bile. Once your psychological problems resolve, the manifestations of these problems in your body are being removed as well.

In case of small gall stones clogging your liver, once they are released, a lot of toxins stored in your liver can be released as well, making you pretty sick.

Both isn't a bad sign per se, but if the cleansing process gets too hard (as in making you too sick), try to take a break from dealing with your emotional baggage. Consider it a vacation .

All the best to you (and I hope my english wasn't too bad )

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No your English is just fine. That's good information. That's kind of what I thought all along. I've made so much progress now though that I don't want to take a break. But I am feeling better so maybe the worst is over with.
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Absolutely! I'm also healing emotionally at the moment from some past stuff and I just got over a fluey cold this week, which manifested around the time of this healing. It's definately all connected. Like a purging of crap that manifests physically. It's quite fascinating.
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I was wondering if anyone's experienced an emotional healing that resulted in physical illness? I've been going through some heavy duty emotional healing related to past abuse issues from childhood and I realized I have been sick several times with the flu, a cold and a fever within the past six weeks.

I totally believe in a connection between mind and body. I was wondering if the release of pent up emotions kind of relieved some stress in my body that came out as sickness?

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Emotional Healing will not cause a Physical illness. Emotional and Psychic Dammage WILL. I am glad that you have started your journey to recovery. As you explore the depths of your pain you will be weaker physically. But as your emotional state improves so will your health. I have known alot of people who could not be helped by Doctors because of their Mystery Illness. After doing Healing rituals for them they either had their health improve or the Doctor was able to identify the problem and aid them. That is why I would never tell someone to stop seeking western medicine but use them both as tools to speed their recovery.
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Thanks for the replies!

Well I've got 35 pounds to lose. I'm hoping that as I let go of emotions I've been holding in, the weight will release also. Does that sound possible?
I know this, all too well! I used to be in the Military. I went to the gym six days a week for two hour sessions. Alot of running too, but that just goes with Military life However, I just kept gaining fat and muscle. I was suffering from insomnia as well. I left that all behind me. I became a civilian and moved to the Philippines. Stopped working out, drank beer and ate all the food you should stay away from. I also started to SLEEP and dumped huge amonts of stress. I lost 40 lbs in 6 months. I think the key was dumping the stress and sleeping.
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I know this, all too well! I used to be in the Military. I went to the gym six days a week for two hour sessions. Alot of running too, but that just goes with Military life However, I just kept gaining fat and muscle. I was suffering from insomnia as well. I left that all behind me. I became a civilian and moved to the Philippines. Stopped working out, drank beer and ate all the food you should stay away from. I also started to SLEEP and dumped huge amonts of stress. I lost 40 lbs in 6 months. I think the key was dumping the stress and sleeping.
But what did you lose? Muscles that are being constantly worked out will store lots of glycogen and water, which is good. After 6 months of no working out you could easily lose quite a bit of water weight and some muscle mass as well. That might account for half or more of that weight loss.

But the lack of stress reduced cortisol levels. Cortisol makes it easy to gain fat. It goes up when you are stressed and also when you overtrain and don't sleep enough to recover.
So on the positive side that must have helped you lose some bodyfat.
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But what did you lose? Muscles that are being constantly worked out will store lots of glycogen and water, which is good. After 6 months of no working out you could easily lose quite a bit of water weight and some muscle mass as well. That might account for half or more of that weight loss.

But the lack of stress reduced cortisol levels. Cortisol makes it easy to gain fat. It goes up when you are stressed and also when you overtrain and don't sleep enough to recover.
So on the positive side that must have helped you lose some bodyfat.
I lost very little muscle. It was mostly fat. In addition to the above the avg temp here is 30-35C so plenty of sweating. And I did find an "alternate" workout.
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Hi rawxstasy,

I absolutely believe in the connection between emotional healing and physical illness. I like the term "healing crisis."

On more than one occassion I've woken with flu like symptoms after doing some pretty intense energy clearing or healing, like sorting through old clothes, photos, memories; or after doing some internal enquiry and processing.

You might remember I had alopecia and lost a chunk of hair in a very spiritually significant place on my head. The physical manifestion of my healing occurred some time after I had made some emotional resolutions, and it was my spiritual counsellor who suggested at the time that my physical body was able to do it's own mourning/clearing once my emotional body had come to terms with what was happening for me at the time.

It is well known that trauma is stored in the body. Being able to notice when the body is holding on to trauma, or even better, letting it go, is pretty neat!

Finding ways to release it are pretty special too. Personally rituals and grounding exercies work best for me, like pounding the pavement. Earthy styles of dance are good too - belly dance, african dance. And body work. Whenever I have a massage I use it as an opportunity to consciously breathe in new life and breathe out old "stuff," as the massage therapist works their hands. I know you didn't specifically ask for advice or suggestions, but I would urge you to think about ways you might be able to keep releasing 'stuff' from your body - if you don't already that is!

Regarding the weight issue... I think if you have made a sustained effort to lose weight without reward, then it could quite possibly be spiritually or emotionally related.

For example, I know my body really well. What it responds to, what it doesn't. What it feels good eating and what it doesn't. Quite recently I was having trouble shifting a few extra kilos I gained while overseas, despite my very best efforts. I believe my body was holding on to the weight for a bit of extra protection. This was confirmed after a session with my spiritual counsellor and after nutting it out here with friends like rei. It was when I made a life (not lifestyle) change that the weight started falling off, and I'm back to my happy-me-weight range. Funnily, the weight loss coincides with a lighter, easier internal me!

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