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Old 03-03-2007, 12:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default EFT: have you tried it?

Emotional Freedom Technique: have any of you used it? We have (I got rid of bunions so I didn't have to consider surgery).

If you are familiar with it, I have a question for you. I'm considering giving a class on it to the public. How would you explain the concept that the part of "I deeply and completely accept myself" is the key to healing? (this is my opinion)

And if you've never heard of it, but want to check it out, go here: EFT Provides Impressive Health and Emotional Freedom--New Discovery Often Works Where Nothing Else. Oh, and they have the manual (it's free) there if you want to start learning how to do it.
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Old 03-03-2007, 12:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I thought the healing was from unblocking the energy meridians?

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Old 03-03-2007, 12:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My friend is an EFT practitioner and he helped to quit smoking after a 15 year addiction. About a year later, he helped again with some anxiety and panic attacks. I can't tell you exactly how it works but I will ask him and pass along any information he gives me.
I am a supporter of EFT big time!!!
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Old 03-03-2007, 01:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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EFT works but I find it takes too much hassle. There are simpler emotion removing techniques like Sedona or Doyletics.
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I use the Sedona Method. It was one of the things I had put to the side, because it didn't sound as interesting as Photoreading or memory techniques, but I'm glad I got around to it. Its very much worth it, and applicable to all parts of life.
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EFT works but I find it takes too much hassle. There are simpler emotion removing techniques like Sedona or Doyletics.
You're kidding right?

What can be simpler than subtlely tapping a pressure point in the car or at your computer when needed?
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I like Sedona, too. What is Doyletics?
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You're kidding right?

What can be simpler than subtlely tapping a pressure point in the car or at your computer when needed?
Sedona . It's just 3 questions, without any tapping - The Sedona Method

Doyletics is also really good. I find it better with emotions that are really old imprints. Like childhood memories. Check it out - Doyletics — A Memory Technique To Improve the Quality of Your Life

All these techniques require training. It's like learning a new skill. It took me about 2-3 weeks to get good at it. The hardest part is to make it a habit to remove unnecesary emotions. You simply forget to use these techniques once you aquire them.
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Thanks for this thread. It got me going back to try EFT again and I am having some success. My emotional blockages don't come from any ONE memory but from the experiences across the years of my childhood. I don't see how doyletics could help with that, e.g. my emotional reaction to my parents rejective attitude towards me. I can see how EFT lets me pick one resulting problem at a time. For me, it is easier to select resulting problems than initial causes. That's why I think EFT works better for me.
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The best --> Tapping.com - Tapping.com
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Tapping.com is GREAT . Thanks !
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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antiventurecapital - I love tapping.com. I tried it earlier today and it answered questions I've long had about EFT that I didn't quite get from emofree.com. Thanks for that link. I love the guy.
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What a great link. I'm usually skeptical about such things, but after experiencing the change from watching the introductory video, I'm hooked. Thanks so much for sharing.
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What a great link. I'm usually skeptical about such things, but after experiencing the change from watching the introductory video, I'm hooked. Thanks so much for sharing.
Try the other videos too. He has a bunch on the videos page.
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i am going to try it...what the heck and if it works i am promising to honor this;

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I've tried it and I love it. But I don't believe it really works by unblocking energy meridians -- that's just a creative use of placebo effect. Read the Wikipedia entry.

Apparently tapping on a doll gave the same benefit, as did tapping "sham" points on the body. I think it really works by giving you something to do while focusing on letting go of harmful emotions. It might also easily act as a healing "state trigger" (like in the story of pavlov's dogs).

But the point is it really works. Combine it with brainwave entrainment and you're set.
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I've tried it and I love it. But I don't believe it really works by unblocking energy meridians -- that's just a creative use of placebo effect. Read the Wikipedia entry.
Take everything on Wiki with a grain of salt. Anyone can post anything there and unless someone corrects it, it sticks.
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Take everything on Wiki with a grain of salt. Anyone can post anything there and unless someone corrects it, it sticks.
Good point. Here's the source they cited: Assessment of the Emotional Freedom Technique

I haven't read it in depth, but it appears to say what the wiki entry claims:

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The results of the present study indicate that EFT was effective in decreasing fear in a nonclinical population. However, EFT was no more effective than either a placebo or modeling control procedure. Participants who were instructed to tap on various locations of their arm reported similar reductions in fear as those participants who were instructed to tap on meridian points. The location of the points did not play a measurable role. Furthermore, participants who tapped on a doll also reported similar decreases in fear ratings. Overall, these findings suggest that certain components of EFT were effective, but not dependent on meridian points, as EFT supporters contend (Pulos, 1999). It is possible that systematic desensitization and distraction are mediators of EFT's apparent effectiveness.
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Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Tapping works. The English guy at tapping.com adds in NLP (i.e., the eyerolling).

Don't screw with success.

Tapping is one of the few things that actually works.

Just be grateful and use it.
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I'm sure it does work.
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I'm sure it does work.
Then there's no need to keep bringing up the wiki page everytime someone mentions tapping here.

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Wow, thanks for the doyletics link moviestar. I've been into EFT since last year and have found it really great though I've had difficulty remembering early memories to use it on. Looks like doyletics could help with that since not much "detective work" is involved. Just tried it for a few things and some of the anxieties I felt seem to be zeroed, though it's not like EFT since I'm not left with a positive emotional after-effect, just...zeroed..strange, I'll have to give it a rest for today and see what kind of lasting effects it has.
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Just be grateful and use it.

Hear, hear. It does work. I don't know why or how, and I don't need to.

A little background: I was a heavy secret drinker (aka "alcoholic") for let's see, twelve years. Nobody saw me do it, as I never drank socially because I knew I couldn't control my drinking even in public. I drank alone until I passed out every single night on weekdays, and from morning to evening on weekends. My whole life revolved around my next drink. It was all I could think about.

I felt so bad and so ashamed every day, and yet I couldn't stop. I never told a single soul about this.

A few months ago I came across this EFT thing, and despite being a flinty, cynical sceptic, decided to give it a try to resolve my drinking problem. It was free and easy to learn, and what could be the harm?

Well, I tapped for a few days, felt no change, decided to give up this EFT "nonsense" and continued drinking as usual.

Then BAM! A couple weeks after my supposedly failed experiment, I simply woke up one morning and realised that I wasn't a drinker any more. The attraction was gone, completely gone. I mean, I went from being someone who literally planned her whole life around acquiring and consuming alcohol, to someone who just didn't like it anymore.

I experimented by going to the liquor shop. I saw all that booze, and all I could think was, "oh, look at the bottles" in the same way that you'd think "oh, look at the bread rolls" or "look at the celery." There was absolutely no craving or feeling of nostalgia at all, just a kind of blank space. Do you know what I mean?

I would love to know how or why it happened, but even if there is no logical explanation for it, it still doesn't alter the fact that it worked for me.

One thing I have to point out is that I had something of a delayed response, which is not something that I've read about.

Anyway, thanks for letting me share my story here, I'd never ever told anyone until now. I feel really good these days.
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Wow, thanks for the doyletics link moviestar. I've been into EFT since last year and have found it really great though I've had difficulty remembering early memories to use it on. Looks like doyletics could help with that since not much "detective work" is involved. Just tried it for a few things and some of the anxieties I felt seem to be zeroed, though it's not like EFT since I'm not left with a positive emotional after-effect, just...zeroed..strange, I'll have to give it a rest for today and see what kind of lasting effects it has.
Yeah that's it. I also feel "blank" after using doyletics. After that you need to motivate yourself with the feeling that you want instead. It's like scrubbing off old paint from a wall and then applying new bright colors .

All the emotion release techniques have something in common. I don't believe EFT has anything to do with meridians. I think the key is in the statement: "Even though .... I deeply and completely accept myself". Maybe using that without tapping gets you the same results. What do you think?
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Bravo, Rin! Thanks for sharing that. I'm so glad you're feeling better, and even more so that you have "all your cylinders" going now (not impaired during all your free time).
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Yeah that's it. I also feel "blank" after using doyletics. After that you need to motivate yourself with the feeling that you want instead. It's like scrubbing off old paint from a wall and then applying new bright colors .

All the emotion release techniques have something in common. I don't believe EFT has anything to do with meridians. I think the key is in the statement: "Even though .... I deeply and completely accept myself". Maybe using that without tapping gets you the same results. What do you think?
The statement changes from practitioner to practitioner so i don't think that's it at all. I hardly notice myself saying it as I'm tuned into the feelings I'm working on with tapping. The tapping.com site incorporates NLP techniques which alter one's state.

The meridian meter beeping when placed over meridian lines is a rather convincing argument for tapping on the suggested points. I'll stick with the recommended method as I don't have time to waste.
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How would you explain the concept that the part of "I deeply and completely accept myself" is the key to healing?
Hmmm... I might say that learning to be your own best friend is one of the keys to healing. Sometimes when I hear my own self-talk, I am shocked at the nasty and judgmental things I say to myself. They are things that I would never dream of saying to another person. How nice it would be if we could always respect and support ourselves, just as a loving friend would. Perhaps that would be one way to explain the importance of the "I deeply and completely accept myself" thing.
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I have tried it a bit already, don't know about results...yet, we'll see...i had one question -i really like the tapping guy's videos but is tapping only for negative emotions?

Can you use it to encourage good ones?
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Thanks for the info regarding the tapping.com site.
I tried it for several sessions in the last few days, and definitely got
good results. Will definitely donate to this site next week.
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I have tried it a bit already, don't know about results...yet, we'll see...i had one question -i really like the tapping guy's videos but is tapping only for negative emotions?

Can you use it to encourage good ones?
I've been using it for positive things to great effect. What I've been doing I think is similar to the Choices method for EFT where instead of the "I deeply accept myself" statement, a positive choice statement is used.

For positive stuff: take any positive affirmation/belief and use it in place of the set-up statement and all of the reminder phrases. When I do two rounds using it like that the affirmation/belief usually takes hold quite fast, it's a really interesting way to see how a certain belief feels.

Sometime ago I read some article linked on these forums about being unreasonably happy. Decided to try it out with EFT using the phrase "I'm unreasonably happy" while doing two rounds of tapping and yep, it worked. In fact I'll try that out again now..
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