Alternative medicine for endometriosis?

[lovMinahM]

How grateful I will be if someone can help me with this question.

So, I have severe endometriosis. I had 2 laparoscopic surgeries and went on Lupron(menopause inducing drug) in btwn for 6 mths to "cool" it down. It was a small miracle that the doctor was able to clear out the mess inside me pretty well and that it wasn't a worse situation to be found when he went inside to look around. Apparently I could have died in 4 yrs w/out treatment.

For the rest of my life I will have to be on birth control to keep it dormant. I've tried 4 different kinds, however thoughts of suicide are not far away when I am on the birth control and I feel like I would rather let the disease take over me before I go back on. It's kept me up for three wks at one pt(1 or 2 hrs. of sleep each night) and its difficult to control the nightmares, oh god the nightmares.

Obviously, an alternative medicine is something I have to be pretty sure of if I am going to attempt it as my condition is a serious one. Does anyone know an alternative medicine that you know has worked for endometriosis? At the moment I'm trying to get pregnant so I'm not on it, but...

Does someone out there have this wisdom?

[ginkgo]

Originally Posted by lovMinahM

How grateful I will be if someone can help me with this question.

So, I have severe endometriosis. I had 2 laparoscopic surgeries and went on Lupron(menopause inducing drug) in btwn for 6 mths to "cool" it down. It was a small miracle that the doctor was able to clear out the mess inside me pretty well and that it wasn't a worse situation to be found when he went inside to look around. Apparently I could have died in 4 yrs w/out treatment.

For the rest of my life I will have to be on birth control to keep it dormant. I've tried 4 different kinds, however thoughts of suicide are not far away when I am on the birth control and I feel like I would rather let the disease take over me before I go back on. It's kept me up for three wks at one pt(1 or 2 hrs. of sleep each night) and its difficult to control the nightmares, oh god the nightmares.

Obviously, an alternative medicine is something I have to be pretty sure of if I am going to attempt it as my condition is a serious one. Does anyone know an alternative medicine that you know has worked for endometriosis? At the moment I'm trying to get pregnant so I'm not on it, but...

Does someone out there have this wisdom?

I have cured endometriosis without drugs or surgery. But why should I help you? Just kidding. It will not cost you anything but you must pay attention. Read everything on this website closely and then read it a second time. Then if you have the intelligence, you will be able to understand it. But stop taking drugs (BC pills). It is bad to be a drug addict. Say no to drugs. The first thing is that you will need to find the link to this webpage. Maybe you will just read the title and give up. It is not in the title.

To make it more interesting, one thing that helps with it was discovered this way. Someone left some soybeans in the barn on some hay and it got wet. Something grew on them. That was thousands of years ago and the Japanese have been eating it ever since. It is an acquired taste so it can be called nasty natto. It is understandable if people do not know about this. They (97 of them) are all trying to speculate on what a guy vomited up.

[DFenS]

My wife has endometriosis (Stage IV - severe). The tale of woe started when she tried to get pregnant and ended with an abdominal operation (removed womb). Luckily she found a specialist in Austria who could handle the difficult surgery. Since then (4 years ago) she is so far okay.

From my knowledge If you try to get pregnant it will start again and chances to get pregnant are not high :-( I haven't heard of any drug (expect birth control and that's just for "cooling down") that can cure it. So for us the only way out was surgery.

In your place, I would try to find some more information in another forum focused on the topic endometriosis and carefully consider you options. I know one but that is unfortunately in German, but I am sure there are some in English as well.

Hope this helps.

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@ginkgo

I have cured endometriosis without drugs or surgery. But why should I help you? Just kidding.

Do you think that's funny when talking about endometriosis. I don't think so.

[ginkgo]

Originally Posted by DFenS

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@ginkgo

Do you think that's funny when talking about endometriosis. I don't think so.

It was not a joke. That webpage tells exactly how I did it. Actually only the body can cure itself if you let it. Endometriosis is a lifestyle disease just like cancer. Is there a cure for being fat? The relationship of being fat and endometriosis is described under that story.

The joke was about helping others and our society. There used to be a saying "It does not cost anything to be nice." But now the saying in America is "what is in it for me." Before 9-11 there was an article in the NY Times about strangers attacking each other. It was all about how people in New York treat each others terribly since they are so stressed out.

[liamona]

I had endometriosis and an ovarian cyst that had to be removed with laparoscopic surgery, too.

This was the culmination of my years of trying to eat a low-fat, low-meat virtually no dairy diet (this is the diet that supposedly cures women's hormonal problems).

What a coincidence—just yesterday I was clearing out my closet and I came across some old medical bills from that time, more than 10 years ago. I no longer have any of the symptoms, and no longer even get PMS. I have little to no symptoms before my period comes—I have to mind the calendar to know when it's coming.

As for pregnancy, I was able to have a child three years after my surgery, and I wasn't trying either.

Originally Posted by lovMinahM

It was a small miracle that the doctor was able to clear out the mess inside me pretty well and that it wasn't a worse situation to be found when he went inside to look around. Apparently I could have died in 4 yrs w/out treatment.

Excuse me for being skeptical, but many doctors like to say things like this in order to justify their cutting into you "for your own good." When I hear these things, they're accompanied by the sound of a loud cash register.

I was told that my severe knee injury and foot problems would require surgery—otherwise I would be "practically crippled the rest of my life."

Instead, I got acupuncture, and walk perfectly fine (when I'm not being a klutz and re-hurting those areas anyway).

I've cured my chronic urinary tract infections with homeopathy, my severe IBS (that the doctors had ZERO clue as to what was causing it) with aloe vera juice, among other things.

I was a mess back in my younger years, and it ended with my trying to be vegetarian.

Although I think herbs, homeopathy, and even surgery have their place in helping us, the best things you can do health-wise is eat well and develop a positive attitude.

Eat only whole foods. If you eat soy, eliminate it NOW. I ate a ton of soy in the years leading up to my laparoscopic surgery. Some of us are sensitive to it, especially the isolated soy proteins and other junk that's in crap foods like fake meat products (I used to eat soy ham, hot dogs and drink soy milk DAILY).

If you can tolerate and like dairy, get the highest quality kind you can, and never drink or eat low or non-fat dairy products from the supermarket. Always consume whole-fat dairy (there was a study done that showed that women who consumed high-fat dairy were more fertile than those who didn't).

Eliminate grains from your diet, especially wheat, and see how you fare. I feel the best without any grains, and even most starches (just small occasional amounts).

Eat high-quality (non-lean) meat, eggs, and plenty of vegetables. If they don't make you gain weight, have small to moderate amounts of fruit for dessert.

[lovMinahM]

Dear gingko, DFens, and liamona,

I was a little thrown off by gingko's joke/not joke too. I don't know if you are assuming that I don't know certain things. Should I have had to mention that I do daily meditation for 45 min, are trying to become a 50% raw foodist and cut out meat, have used Oriental medicine, acupuncture, and try to excersise. I don't know, but I will ck your link b/c I've always been willing to learn from anything and anybody. I'm sure your are trying to help.

DFens, I appreciate your response, it was caring, and your right, I should probably check out another website more specific to endometriosis, but I have faith that this community might know something helpful.

liamona, you gave a lot of info which I appreciate. I will look over it some more after I write this response. Getting rid of PMS sounds like a dream. And the fact that you got pregnant, very encouraging. I realize that Western medicine can be limiting and that it is not preventative. So, I believe what you say.

Just thought I'd throw the question out there. I'm happy to have gotten some responses. Thanks everybody, really.

[emeadow]

While I do not have endometriosis to a level requiring surgery, I will toss out a couple thoughts I have learned along the way in my adventures.

Changing my diet has helped me tremendously, but not completely. I have not eaten gluten for over 3 yrs. I am not vegetarian, and I do consume some dairy (in the form of raw milk or full fat natural cheeses). I do not eat much soy, and I try to keep corn and several other allergens on the lower side. I also eat fairly low grain in general. I am actually in the process of lowering my fat intake down for awhile to see if that takes me to a new level of health. I have tested raw diets, but right now due to other conditions its not a path I am ready for. Overall, I can second that diet DOES help...but as for the perfect combination, I have not quite found it yet and I do believe it varies from person to person.

I have been off BC pills for over 7 years now. The one supplement I have found that reduces pain and regulates my monthlies the best has been evening primrose oil. It takes a couple months to even out, but it really helps my issues. Again like food, not 100%, but it has made things MUCH better. I can go off for a few months now and be fine, but if intensity starts to increase, I go back on it. But with all my other changes, my need for supplements is far less.

There are some other natural recommendations, like valerian root, black cohosh, cramp bark, red raspberry tea, ect. Some are meant for daily use, some are used for pain relief, ect. I have to be honest and say while I have tried some, I have never stuck with them long enough to get a good opinion. Research and finding forums more geared towards this topic would be a good idea.

Lastly, yoga, meditation, acupuncture and relaxation have been a large component for my improvement. I also suffered from interstitial cystitis, which of course was SUPER bad when I would have my monthlies. Learning how to not store tension or stress in particular areas of my body helped me the most for both conditions. Flat out, when I am doing the right things for my body, it feels better. When I slack, it lets me know. As you start to feel better, it becomes easier to identify the things you do incorrectly to set it off.

I am a believer that if you need prescription meds to get by, then take what you need to, but understand your body is telling you something is wrong. Do not ignore the bodies warning system. Use the meds to help you survive while you correct the underlying imbalances if needed. I think the medical community today tries every way possible to treat the surface issues...either through surgery or medications.....but they really struggle to FIX the mental and physical (including energy) imbalances that caused the problems in the first place. I know not ALL conditions are of this nature, but I suspect the majority fall into this category. Every diagnosis I used to get was for 'chronic incurable' conditions....but if I walked into the doctor now they would be hard pressed to find anything wrong. I consider my ailments to have been a blessing at this point, as THEY were the catalyst to wake me up. Are they a pain some days? Yes, but in the end, I am still thankful for my awareness. I know that I would not be where I am now without them, crazy as that sounds.

[ginkgo]

Originally Posted by lovMinahM

Dear gingko, DFens, and liamona,

I was a little thrown off by gingko's joke/not joke too.

Here was the joke.

But why should I help you? Just kidding.

It is about our society (America). We are not known as the healthiest country or the one with the nicest people. We have much more crime than other countries. We are known as the richest country. We do not get that way by helping people for free but by charging them money to help them especially with health issues.

I am hurting the economy by giving you this information for free. Of course you are hurting yourself by not reading what is on that webpage. Actualy reading it helps you to understand what you did to cause it. Why you did it is too complex to go into here, but is the reason that you did not go and read that webpage right away. Can someone tell if Avatar is a good movie or not without seeing it? No. Only by seeing it can you know. It would probably take 15 minutes to read that web page for slow readers and 5 minutes to skim over it and read the part with endometriosis.

If you had done that then you could tell me if you knew that information or not. Obviously no one can be expected to know everythng. You asked for help so apparently you do not know how to heal the endometriosis.

As far as my joke or half truth, I was also referring to how few people were responding to your question and how many were responding to what the guy vomited up. The rest of the joke came at the end of the post.

It is understandable if people do not know about this. They (97 of them) are all trying to speculate on what a guy who vomited up something.

Also you do not know enough not to take drugs and that is the worst thing that you can do. You cannot expect meditation or anything in your body to work right if you take drugs. Also as far as my joke. Since you did not read and commented on that webpage (you could have said why it is terrible) I decided that my joke was more true than funny and I feel that I made a mistake. So I went back to remove that link and so you would not be able to read how to cure your endometriosis. But too much time had past so I could not. But that would have been really funny to have removed a link that I had given to you.

You said that you meditate. That site also has a big page about meditation. I would say that the number one rule about meditation is to not take drugs. Buddha felt this was the worse thing anyone can do since if you rape or murder, you will learn from it (karma) but when you take drugs, it stops you from learning.

The webpage above has things like (to see if you know these things):

A Harvard Medical School professor (Herbert Benson, M.D.) has written a classic book on meditation called The Relaxation Response (1975) which is now being taught in many medical schools.

Psychology Today Magazine says "Neuroscientists have found that meditators shift their brain activity to different areas of the cortex - brain waves in the stress-prone right frontal cortex move to the calmer left frontal cortex. This mental shift decreases the negative effects of stress, mild depression and anxiety. There is also less activity in the amygdala, where the brain processes fear."

The psychiatrist and author, Daniel Amen, M.D., has done over 40,000 brain scans. He says that meditation makes your brain work much better. He wrote the New York Times bestseller, Change your Brain, Change your Life.

According to Men's Health magazine (September 2004), Jet Li is the only five-time national wushu (martial arts) champion of China. Because of this, China has declared him a national treasure. He meditates at least one hour a day and has meditated 14 hours in a day. Since he is a Buddhist, China must have relaxed its policy of not allowing religions there (not from above magazine-- just my opinion).

[lovMinahM]

Dear emeadow,

Just want to take the time to thank you for sharing your experience with me.
It was realistic and thoughtful. I will read it over again to get the most I can from it since you took the time to help me out.

I really appreciate it. Thanks.

[ginkgo]

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[liamona]

Originally Posted by lovMinahM

Should I have had to mention that I do daily meditation for 45 min, are trying to become a 50% raw foodist and cut out meat, have used Oriental medicine, acupuncture, and try to excersise. I don't know, but I will ck your link b/c I've always been willing to learn from anything and anybody. I'm sure your are trying to help.

It sounds like you're doing a lot! As for dietary changes, I hope you're being gentle with yourself and not stressing about food.

[LindseyRae]

Im glad I found this… Thanks for posting lovMinahM… How are you feeling now? Have you tried any of this? Did it help?

Im 23 and am just starting my journey with Endo, although I suspect Ive had it since I first started my cycles. I was on BC pills for 7 years (from age 14-21) but my hormones caused me to have to stop taking them. I had terrible headaches etc. But the more it got out of my system the worse the symptoms got and when I ended up in the hospital one month I knew something more was wrong. Unfortunately Kaiser is surgery happy like you said and they said at first it was a cyst that disappeared, but lets do surgery and put you on a lifetime sentence of BC pills. I walked away, tried to do it holistically, but now I am at a crossroads between taking care of what has already manifested and preventing further issues.

The healer in me has done some homework regarding the cause and much of it resonates. So I am working with the energy and my beliefs that could be causing it... Im trying aromatherapy with Geranium and Ylang Ylang, heard Sandalwood is good too... Mostly working with Reiki. Here is what it said if you’re interested:

Originally Posted by [url=http://www.galaxyhealing.com.au/articles/metaphysicsart.html#g

ENDOMETRIOSIS/OVARIAN]The Metaphysics of Specific Disease Conditions Galaxy Healing - Health Solutions in Balmain, Sydney - Maggi Nimmo ASANA YOGA FOR THE WEST, REMAXATION AND RELAXATION, PILATES AND DANCE, REMEDIAL REVITALISING THERAPIES, HOMOEOPATHY[/url] CYSTS (create menstrual problems & hinder pregnancy): Deep conflict of being fulfilled as a woman or expressing your femininity, or wanting to be a mother or not. Resenting the children you already have. Your femininity has been repressed or abused. You perceive that your partner is rejecting you. Repressing your sexuality. Inner conflict with creating and finding your own path.

Physically I am balancing out my hormones with help from my Chiro/Kenisiologist/Nutritionist... But what I cant stop wondering is if the damage that is already done (implants) needs to be removed surgically. My sister just had her laparoscopy earlier this year and found that she was missing an ovary and had implants all over her bladder and other areas. She was told she had a 5 year window of fertility. As a healer, I feel like surgery is giving up and I ‘should’ be able to do it alternatively, but I also know this is serious and I want to carry my own children in a few years. I have an appointment with a surgeon to feel it out, but Im curious if any of you have any advice on this. Should I clear out the current damage and let the healing prevent further?

Thank you <3

[ginkgo]

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