You get cancer because of your diet

[Double]

Have you ever wondered what the natural diet for a human being is?
It seems its simply raw food. Which makes sense, because what would human beings be eating pre-stoves pre-techonolgy frenzy.

So its raw huh. But meat tastes awfull raw, yes thats an indication you should not eat it. Same with potatoes, even garlic. They are not good for the body and your taste buds are a good indication for this.

There are people who have been living years on end on raw food, which is fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, nuts and seedlings in their natural state. Its a whole science, a very different way of looking at health.

Well if your interested in the raw diet, which happens to be much simpler, no cooking, means less dish washing, means less energy consumption, means better for the environment, everything about the lifestyle is just awesome.

You should check out the great work of T C Fry, who have gathered vast information, from all over the world, from all kinds of times, about raw foods, and assembled it to one great piece. Its on the internet as well, and its free to read. Very interesting stuff, bound to change your perspective on life

Im pursuing this myself, and i already feel more energetic after dropping cooked food. I find it very enjoyable picking up new things at the grocery store, decontaminating it when i get home and just sticking it in my mouth. Experimentation at its best. Of course if i find something i like, i will go research it on the net to be sure No pots or pans, a very nice looking fridge with FOOD not useless, poisinous, condiments only used to make bad and cooked food tasty/edible. And i can just eat whenever, i dont have to spend time on cooking first. Yay

Well i hope you will check it out, good reading and good luck
Raw Food Explained - Everything you need to know about the Raw Food Lifestyle


So a cure for cancer? Well, there is no cure other than changing your life habits, your diet. Why your body is not busy attacking the stuff you feed it, it will be busy nurishing and repearing itself.

[sheffy4]

I think raw fish tastes delicious!

[ALi2010]

So a cure for cancer? Well, there is no cure other than changing your life habits, your diet. Why your body is not busy attacking the stuff you feed it, it will be busy nurishing and repearing itself.

Do you have a link to an article or study that specifically states raw vegetables diet will cure cancer?

I'm not against raw vegetable diet, I just want to learn where you found the information that diet is the cause for cancer.

[bman]

raw garlic is good for you. Anyone who says otherwise haven't a clue about nutrition and are just victims of medical disinformation.

[scorpio1980]

I think the logic that what tastes good is good for you is flawed. I for one love the taste of raw potatoes, yet they are not good for you raw. I hate the taste of most veggies raw, yet they are good for you. We have been able to cook for a very long time, I believe cooking food was one of the best things we ever did. Oh by they way raw beef is very tasty, so is raw venison. I tried a raw diet a while back, and I lacked energy, and felt very cold. No diet is perfect for everyone. You for instance seem to like your raw, vegan diet, but I felt terrible on it. I feel great eating my grass fed steak. To each his own.

[bman]

I am a hybrid diet person.


Vegetables that you CAN eat raw, you eat it raw.


Those that need to be steamed/cook, you do it.


Potatos must be boiled or else they are too hard and possibly toxic.


Some food are just more healthier cooked, such as tomatoes and carrots.


Generally, allium based food, those associated with medicinal values, I take them raw.


1. Garlic

2. Onions.

3. Ginger.

4. Turmeric.


Spice/herbs are always raw for me.


Fruits = 100 percent all raw.


Meat I would take poultry, fish, shrimps and squids, but try to avoid 4 legged critters completely.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by scorpio1980

I think the logic that what tastes good is good for you is flawed.

Absolutely. People would be sitting around eating Twinkies and Heath bars and bacon all day long.

Also, there was a topic here previously where several people said they really like the taste of raw meat. I've been to rural bars on New Year's Day where they have raw ground beef set out as an appetizer. And as sheffy4 said, raw fish is pretty popular.

A lot of people think spinach tastes awful, and yet that's good for you.

If we carry this further and say, as the OP implied, that a raw food diet makes more sense because it doesn't require stoves and ovens and microwaves, just a fridge . . . why should real food need a fridge?

[EPIC Supplements]

one of the most common cancers caused by diet is bowel or colon cancer. Simple solution eat foods high in fiber so you are very regular

[Razly]

I dont think it's right to say cancer is the result of poor diet, seeing as there some people who live to a very long age on a diet of crap and without health difficulties.

I do think diet can be a major contributing cause to cancer, but I also believe that the unhealthy conditions in your body can be manifestations of different aspects of your state of consciousness.

[Double]

[QUOTE=moonrambler;438565]Absolutely. People would be sitting around eating Twinkies and Heath bars and bacon all day long.
QUOTE]

I think you forgot the part where i was talking about raw foods which means fruits, vegetables, nuts, seedlings basically

[Double]

Originally Posted by Razly

I dont think it's right to say cancer is the result of poor diet, seeing as there some people who live to a very long age on a diet of crap and without health difficulties.

I do think diet can be a major contributing cause to cancer, but I also believe that the unhealthy conditions in your body can be manifestations of different aspects of your state of consciousness.

You said, SOME people, maybe if MOST people who ate cooked foods didnt get cancer, your thesis would make sense. But what really happens to be the case is; Most if not all patients with cancer has been eating cooked foods for most of their life.

[James81]

Wow, cancer has a lot more to do than just your diet. And some of the stuff that's causing cancer are things you can't even control (for example, the extreme amount of fumes put into the atmosphere by factories and cars).

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Double

I think you forgot the part where i was talking about raw foods which means fruits, vegetables, nuts, seedlings basically

What I was responding to was your statement that our taste buds are a good indicator of what foods are good for us.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Double

You said, SOME people, maybe if MOST people who ate cooked foods didnt get cancer, your thesis would make sense. But what really happens to be the case is; Most if not all patients with cancer has been eating cooked foods for most of their life.

Sure. And most if not all patients with cancer also have been eating raw foods for most of their lives. And most if not all have also probably been drinking water for most of their lives.

[Double]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

What I was responding to was your statement that our taste buds are a good indicator of what foods are good for us.

Its true though. Any processed food is bad for you, especially if its been tainted with drugs like salt or sugar for example.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Double

Its true though. Any processed food is bad for you, especially if its been tainted with drugs like salt or sugar for example.

You say our taste buds are a good indicator of what's good for us, but that any processed food is bad for you, especially if it has salt or sugar.

However, it seems to me that the vast majority of people have taste buds telling them the more salt and sugar, the better! Look at popular food like potato chips, donuts and so on. Our taste buds really are not a good indicator of what's good for us.

[Double]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

You say our taste buds are a good indicator of what's good for us, but that any processed food is bad for you, especially if it has salt or sugar.

However, it seems to me that the vast majority of people have taste buds telling them the more salt and sugar, the better! Look at popular food like potato chips, donuts and so on. Our taste buds really are not a good indicator of what's good for us.

Lol i think potato chips go under the category processed foods

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Double

Lol i think potato chips go under the category processed foods

So why do people love potato chips then? Why do their taste buds tell them to eat more potato chips? If you're saying our taste buds tell us what's good for us.

[Manomanman]

I agree that the VAAAAST majority of health problems are caused by a combination of diet and lifestyle. (I.e. psychosomatic illness induced by stress).

[Double]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

So why do people love potato chips then? Why do their taste buds tell them to eat more potato chips? If you're saying our taste buds tell us what's good for us.

They have been processed. Scientifically engineered to suit the tastebuds, so it sells.

[JSB]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

You say our taste buds are a good indicator of what's good for us, but that any processed food is bad for you, especially if it has salt or sugar.

However, it seems to me that the vast majority of people have taste buds telling them the more salt and sugar, the better! Look at popular food like potato chips, donuts and so on. Our taste buds really are not a good indicator of what's good for us.

I agree; our taste buds are terrible indicators of what's good for us. There are millions of people out there gorging themselves on McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts because they "taste good".

[Scipio]

Originally Posted by Double

Have you ever wondered what the natural diet for a human being is?
It seems its simply raw food. Which makes sense, because what would human beings be eating pre-stoves pre-techonolgy frenzy.

So its raw huh. But meat tastes awfull raw, yes thats an indication you should not eat it.

Your personal, individual taste of something is not an indication of whether it is healthy or not.

I enjoy raw meat from time to time, especially salmon, tuna, beef, and eggs.

Humans and pre-humans have been cooking "pre-stoves" and "pre-technology." If you are going to argue based on the evolutionary argument, you ought to study what actually happened since there is tonnes of published research. Archeological evidence indicates there has been cooking for at least 500,000 years. You'll find that all evolutionary nutritionists and researchers follow a "Paleo diet"--the diet in which the human species evolved on. That includes healthy portions of meat. A study done by Cordain et al says the average for hunter-gatherer populations was probably 65% of calories from animal sources, but this can swing wildly depending on the area.

About your main point, many doctors who treated traditional eating Inuit and northern native populations in Canada and Alaska could not find any incidence of cancer. In fact, nearly all Western doctors said they saw a decline of health in those populations when they began an agricultural diet of processed grains, sugars, and processed vegetable oils. The Inuit ate a diet where calories from animal sources consisted of 99% of their caloric intake. Most Northern native populations ate diets that varied by the season, with an average of 70% or more of their calories coming from animal sources. The Inuit ate their fish and seal raw. Neither of these populations suffered from any incidence of degenerative diseases (the diseases of civiliation). Those include heart attacks, stroke, cavities, dental malocclusion, juvenile onset myopia, diabetes, osteroperosis, many autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis, etc). Absolutely zero incidence.

[stanmrak]

Why do fresh fruits and vegetables prevent cancer? Antioxidants!

[andrew112]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Sure. And most if not all patients with cancer also have been eating raw foods for most of their lives. And most if not all have also probably been drinking water for most of their lives.

That statement is incorrect. I highly doubt that most cancer patients have been eating raw foods most of their lives. Are you going to say that eating the diet that God himself intended people to eat is causing cancer??!

[raju]

thanks for this info.

wheat grass juice, giloy are also being discussed for curing cancer.
some naturopath also are against of animal milk for all disease and promote soya milk
and some prefer double toned milk, but what ever full cream milk is some thign i have found all naturopaths are against

natropath also tell that fruits dry fruits and salads are good for health...whihc we can consume raw

its like comparing
life of
raw food outside refrigerator
cooked food outside refrigerator


i am also exploring on natural diets. for good health.. thou i do not follow it because eating is my HOBBY lol i am addicted ...

i am not over weight ..

yet iam going thru learning stage...and bit paranoid on these natural system but not against it..

every time i read about them i take it as a warning. for me...

then comes discussion on alkaline food

well i eat and enjoy... and learn to be happy... not too focused on diets..

as far as cancer is concerned... it is still a challenge...
i will add more to it other than diet.
happiness, mnd state positive, anger, and attitude in handling different affairs.

i have seen in daycare that all such patients have something in common is it because of diseases or diseases is the cause.

we have found and experimented that wheat grass juice and giloy consumption
have helped us in increasing platelets and tlc count drastically.( as suggested by indian swami ramdev )

when we follow docs advice and do not give then it becomes difficult for us to handle..things

but when we do not follow modern science in this regard.. then most of medical trouble after chemo are vanished. but this is personal experiment on one case only.
so cant be referred as full evidence.

i am not the patient.. i am a reiki healer.

Originally Posted by Double

Have you ever wondered what the natural diet for a human being is?
It seems its simply raw food. Which makes sense, because what would human beings be eating pre-stoves pre-techonolgy frenzy.

So its raw huh. But meat tastes awfull raw, yes thats an indication you should not eat it. Same with potatoes, even garlic. They are not good for the body and your taste buds are a good indication for this.

There are people who have been living years on end on raw food, which is fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, nuts and seedlings in their natural state. Its a whole science, a very different way of looking at health.

Well if your interested in the raw diet, which happens to be much simpler, no cooking, means less dish washing, means less energy consumption, means better for the environment, everything about the lifestyle is just awesome.

You should check out the great work of T C Fry, who have gathered vast information, from all over the world, from all kinds of times, about raw foods, and assembled it to one great piece. Its on the internet as well, and its free to read. Very interesting stuff, bound to change your perspective on life

Im pursuing this myself, and i already feel more energetic after dropping cooked food. I find it very enjoyable picking up new things at the grocery store, decontaminating it when i get home and just sticking it in my mouth. Experimentation at its best. Of course if i find something i like, i will go research it on the net to be sure No pots or pans, a very nice looking fridge with FOOD not useless, poisinous, condiments only used to make bad and cooked food tasty/edible. And i can just eat whenever, i dont have to spend time on cooking first. Yay

Well i hope you will check it out, good reading and good luck
Raw Food Explained - Everything you need to know about the Raw Food Lifestyle


So a cure for cancer? Well, there is no cure other than changing your life habits, your diet. Why your body is not busy attacking the stuff you feed it, it will be busy nurishing and repearing itself.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by andrew112

That statement is incorrect. I highly doubt that most cancer patients have been eating raw foods most of their lives. Are you going to say that eating the diet that God himself intended people to eat is causing cancer??!

The OP said: "Most if not all patients with cancer has been eating cooked foods for most of their life." I don't disagree with that. However, most if not all patients with cancer have also been eating raw food for most of their lives. Who's to say whether either one of those aspects of their diet has anything to do with cancer?

Where are you getting the information proclaiming what diet God himself intended people to eat? Perhaps God invented fire so people could cook food.

[Ronnock]

In my opinion, I believe "dieting" is BS. In the sense that, everyone needs to eat a very specific diet that one person experimented with and was successful with equates to a successful diet for everyone. It doesn't make any sense. People are so vastly different with varying and very different ways of handling foods it's nearly impossible to suggest that one specific diet is suitable for all. I also believe that if it comes from nature with minimal procession and engineering, then it's suitable to eat. Life is too short and too complicated to complicate something as simple as eating good and healthy food and enjoying it too.

Just experiment with yourself by doing 2 weeks or 30-day trials of eating a particular way. If you find yourself more energetic with one particular diet, but you were going to try another entirely different diet in the next month. Don't bother, just go with what works, because you could be wasting time in that next month and it might be even harder to revert back to the original diet from the experience of that following diet.

Just eat what taste good and what makes you feel good. If you do this, and it works for you, then it was the right thing to do.

[Double]

Originally Posted by Scipio

Your personal, individual taste of something is not an indication of whether it is healthy or not.

I enjoy raw meat from time to time, especially salmon, tuna, beef, and eggs.

Humans and pre-humans have been cooking "pre-stoves" and "pre-technology." If you are going to argue based on the evolutionary argument, you ought to study what actually happened since there is tonnes of published research. Archeological evidence indicates there has been cooking for at least 500,000 years. You'll find that all evolutionary nutritionists and researchers follow a "Paleo diet"--the diet in which the human species evolved on. That includes healthy portions of meat. A study done by Cordain et al says the average for hunter-gatherer populations was probably 65% of calories from animal sources, but this can swing wildly depending on the area.

About your main point, many doctors who treated traditional eating Inuit and northern native populations in Canada and Alaska could not find any incidence of cancer. In fact, nearly all Western doctors said they saw a decline of health in those populations when they began an agricultural diet of processed grains, sugars, and processed vegetable oils. The Inuit ate a diet where calories from animal sources consisted of 99% of their caloric intake. Most Northern native populations ate diets that varied by the season, with an average of 70% or more of their calories coming from animal sources. The Inuit ate their fish and seal raw. Neither of these populations suffered from any incidence of degenerative diseases (the diseases of civiliation). Those include heart attacks, stroke, cavities, dental malocclusion, juvenile onset myopia, diabetes, osteroperosis, many autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis, etc). Absolutely zero incidence.

If that is the case then you have not refuted my point. What tastes good raw is good for you

[Double]

Originally Posted by Ronnock

In my opinion, I believe "dieting" is BS. In the sense that, everyone needs to eat a very specific diet that one person experimented with and was successful with equates to a successful diet for everyone. It doesn't make any sense. People are so vastly different with varying and very different ways of handling foods it's nearly impossible to suggest that one specific diet is suitable for all. I also believe that if it comes from nature with minimal procession and engineering, then it's suitable to eat. Life is too short and too complicated to complicate something as simple as eating good and healthy food and enjoying it too.

Just experiment with yourself by doing 2 weeks or 30-day trials of eating a particular way. If you find yourself more energetic with one particular diet, but you were going to try another entirely different diet in the next month. Don't bother, just go with what works, because you could be wasting time in that next month and it might be even harder to revert back to the original diet from the experience of that following diet.

Just eat what taste good and what makes you feel good. If you do this, and it works for you, then it was the right thing to do.

If there is no natural diet, how come the horses eat instinctivley? How come if you put a man on a strict meat only diet, he would die before the man who was fasting?

No, like there is reality there is truth, there is a natural diet for human beings. And i believe its the raw one.

[Daffy Duck]

It's possible the raw diet may be the most "natural" of all, but I don't think that makes it the best. Computers and the Internet aren't natural, but they have the opportunity to improve our lives. Likewise, we can think of diet changes that can help us be healthier and live longer, even if it's not the "natural" way.