can we condense things....

[lifetimelearner]

Instead of all the disagreements about different eating plans
I would love for you guys to state the eating plan you have implemented into your life
and how your body and possibly your mind too have changed for the better

-please include any areas of improvement you have seen in your health
for example has your cholesterol level dropped

thanks in advance

[stanmrak]

uh... lowering cholesterol is not, by itself, a "health improvement." There is no correlation between cholesterol levels and risk of cardiovascular disease — NONE. This is basically a myth being perpetrated by the pharmaceutical industry to sell more Lipitor. Really. This belief is due to an advertising campaign that has gone on for so long that everyone thinks that it's true.

Sorry to go off on you, but one of my life's missions is to debunk this scam forever.
What Causes Heart Disease? The Cholesterol Myth Debunked

Now that I've gotten that off my chest (Again!), I think that the whole key to a diet is to stick with unprocessed food. Your body will tell you what it likes and when it likes it — if you pay attention to it. No one diet is best for everyone. I personally don't feel well after eating red meat, but some people NEED it. Unfortunately, the quality of the beef we get is horrible.

Because your body is put under so much stress from the environment now, I don't think that an ordinary diet is sufficient. I'm a firm believer in high-antioxidant superfoods like chlorella, spirulina, goji berries, mangosteen, flaxseed, etc. Not only do they give you superior nutrition, but they're also free from pesticides and other factory-farming chemicals that you want to avoid.

For more insurance, I personally have been taking 10 or 20 different nutritional supplements every day for the last 30 years. Many people will tell you that you're throwing your money away on pills; I'm quite pleased with the results I've gotten, and would recommend them to anyone, regardless of their diet.

Here'a a list of 10 reasons why you might need to use supplements:
https://www.ezinearticles.com/?The-B...hem&id=2398073

[lifetimelearner]

okay not the response I was looking for but thanks for the info



besides I do not endorse taking medications and I promise I do not work as pharmaceutical rep
Hot Topics: Cholesterol & Triglycerides: Risk Factors

[ginkgo]

Eat food made by nature or God. Do not eat foods made by man. They are designed to make you fat and addicted to food. That is good for their business. If they also own drug companies then it is good to make food that destroys your health like with added sugar or the HFCS. This stuff is poison.

But you know this. You know that an apple is better for you than a donut and jelly beans, right? Does anyone (in their right mind) disagree with this? Is this condensed enough? Does anyone disagree with this? If no one disagrees then everyone agrees.

[lifetimelearner]

thanks for the reply ginkgo
but I was looking for personal experiences with dietary changes

could you tell me what exactly you eat and how it changed your life

[pseymour]

Hi lifetimelearner...I can say a few words about how much my eating/life has changed these past couple years. (while losing 100+ lbs)

I didn't set out with a book, program or eating plan really. I went back to the basic food groups and calories in/calories out! I knew enough about nutrition to know that fruits, vegetables, grains, and low-fat was healthy and my previous diet of fast food and processed food was not!

I used to eat out a ton and I was dealing with high blood pressure (on medication) swelling/numbness in my legs, depression and anxiety.

When I changed my eating back in Jan 2007 I finally began to feel better.
I rarely eat out and cook a ton more. I eat a lot of fresh fruits/vegetables and lean proteins such as chicken and fish.

My blood pressure started dropping shortly after my new exercise and food plan had started and within the first year, I was completely off of medication and my blood pressure was normal.

I do eat out in moderation and I don't really have anything that is off limits to me. (I think this backfires so often for many people)

Perfection is not my goal. I would hope that in maintenance I would be excellent at living a life of moderation when it comes to healthy eating.

Hope this is useful in some way and I look forward to what others have to share.

[lifetimelearner]

thanks pseymour
that was exactly what I was looking for


I love it when people say that they are able to get off medications!!

great story thank you !!

[James81]

I've been spending the past several months getting me to this basic plan:

Breakfast: A piece of fruit of some kind (usually a banana) I never ate breakfast before, and can't stand eating something when I wake up, so this is as intense as it'll get for me for breakfast.

Lunch: 2 apples, 2 oranges, and maybe a bag of carrots or strawberries.

Dinner: I eat pretty much what I want, so long as I keep it within reason. But I feel best when I make some sort of fresh vegetables, potatoes, and fish/salmon/meat of some kind.

Snacks: Nuts, popcorn, applesauce, trail mix.

And yes, I do eat non-healthy type of stuff like chips, cake, ice cream, etc. I just try to remember to keep it within reason.

This is the best balance I've found for myself thus far. When I stick to this type of diet, I feel fantastic. Of course, I'm still trying to build this habit so I go through phases where I don't eat as well as I should.

[lifetimelearner]

great james
thank you

I hate eating first thing in the morning too !
fruit or granola bar is all I can handle
later I get ravenous

[The Big D]

First off, I'm a big guy (6'6") and my break-even calorie point is somewhat above 3000 depending on activity. I basically eat what I want, with a few guidelines:

0) I don't count calories, but I do kind of keep track of what I'm eating, and I know about how many calories a given meal is.

1) Nothing with a ton of sugar & no beverages with calories - soda, candy, cake etc are out.

2) Light breakfast in the morning - I hate most traditional breakfast foods, and they mostly violate 1) anyways, so I'll do leftovers, canned soup, yogurt with fruit or whatever. Bacon and eggs make an occasional appearance, as do breakfast burritos. Target is about 800 calories

3) Lunch is pretty much "go with the flow" which often means eating out with others, paying attention to 1). Target is 1000 calories.

4) Dinner is like lunch, but typically bigger. When I eat in and cook I often do BBQ. Target is 1200 calories.

5) I generally try to avoid snacks and 4th meals, but if I've been burning a lot of calories, I'll figure it out because I'll end up being really hungry after following the normal plan. If that happens, I'll eat a bit more to try to balance things out. If I need to lose a bit of weight, I'll cut out extra meals and snacks altogether, which typically causes me to lose about 1.5lb/week.

6) I try to bias my diet towards protein, fats, and fruit and veggie sugars over carbs. This isn't a hard rule, but maintaining and building muscle requires protein and simple carbs have all sorts of unintended downsides, so I tend in that direction.

Now, I'm well aware that this is a diet that will piss off pretty much everyone. The veggie/vegan/raw crowd won't like it for obvious reasons. The bodybuilders will notice a distinct lack of whey protein. The old school 80's "fat kills" crowd will have an aneurysm. The Atkins crowd will flip out that I eat french fries and like 'em. But it works for me - I don't have cholesterol or heart problems, no type 2 diabetes, and I'm not overweight. The caveat is that if I stopped weight lifting, I would have to change my died substantially or I'd turn into a blimp.

[KtotheB]

I eat a diet of mostly raw vegan food; although sometimes if I get a craving for something I may go with it. Anyhoo, I summed up all the wonderful benefits of my raw food experience right here: raw food diet benefits. Let me know if you have questions!

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by The Big D

First off, I'm a big guy (6'6") and my break-even calorie point is somewhat above 3000 depending on activity. I basically eat what I want, with a few guidelines:

0) I don't count calories, but I do kind of keep track of what I'm eating, and I know about how many calories a given meal is.

1) Nothing with a ton of sugar & no beverages with calories - soda, candy, cake etc are out.

2) Light breakfast in the morning - I hate most traditional breakfast foods, and they mostly violate 1) anyways, so I'll do leftovers, canned soup, yogurt with fruit or whatever. Bacon and eggs make an occasional appearance, as do breakfast burritos. Target is about 800 calories

3) Lunch is pretty much "go with the flow" which often means eating out with others, paying attention to 1). Target is 1000 calories.

4) Dinner is like lunch, but typically bigger. When I eat in and cook I often do BBQ. Target is 1200 calories.

5) I generally try to avoid snacks and 4th meals, but if I've been burning a lot of calories, I'll figure it out because I'll end up being really hungry after following the normal plan. If that happens, I'll eat a bit more to try to balance things out. If I need to lose a bit of weight, I'll cut out extra meals and snacks altogether, which typically causes me to lose about 1.5lb/week.

6) I try to bias my diet towards protein, fats, and fruit and veggie sugars over carbs. This isn't a hard rule, but maintaining and building muscle requires protein and simple carbs have all sorts of unintended downsides, so I tend in that direction.

Now, I'm well aware that this is a diet that will piss off pretty much everyone. The veggie/vegan/raw crowd won't like it for obvious reasons. The bodybuilders will notice a distinct lack of whey protein. The old school 80's "fat kills" crowd will have an aneurysm. The Atkins crowd will flip out that I eat french fries and like 'em. But it works for me - I don't have cholesterol or heart problems, no type 2 diabetes, and I'm not overweight. The caveat is that if I stopped weight lifting, I would have to change my died substantially or I'd turn into a blimp.

I hope we do not get any negative responses here

all I wanted when I started this thread was to see how different people eat and how it works for them

thank you for providing that

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by KtotheB

I eat a diet of mostly raw vegan food; although sometimes if I get a craving for something I may go with it. Anyhoo, I summed up all the wonderful benefits of my raw food experience right here: raw food diet benefits. Let me know if you have questions!

cool thanks

BTW-
beautiful blog site
from a beautiful person
I am going to check you out on you tube

[The Big D]

Originally Posted by lifetimelearner

I hope we do not get any negative responses here

all I wanted when I started this thread was to see how different people eat and how it works for them

thank you for providing that

Glad I could help. I'm not too worried about negative responses. If they happen, they happen.

[rocksupreme]

I eat a lot of food. Meat and veggies, mostly. Especially bacon. Also beer, ice cream, and lots of eggs.

Ho it works for me: very well.

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by rocksupreme

I eat a lot of food. Meat and veggies, mostly. Especially bacon. Also beer, ice cream, and lots of eggs.

Ho it works for me: very well.

hmmm thanks for the input

[aelle]

I'm a vegan who takes it easy. I don't count or estimate calories, I don't look at fat content of stuff. I eat a variety of foods including junk from time to time. I eat when I hungry and stop when I'm full.

I lost 40 pounds without trying after I went vegan. My weight has been perfectly stable at a healthy weight since. I feel generally healthy enough and don't want to be bothered with more minutiae.

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by aelle

I'm a vegan who takes it easy. I don't count or estimate calories, I don't look at fat content of stuff. I eat a variety of foods including junk from time to time. I eat when I hungry and stop when I'm full.

I lost 40 pounds without trying after I went vegan. My weight has been perfectly stable at a healthy weight since. I feel generally healthy enough and don't want to be bothered with more minutiae.

cool !
thanks

[Mogget]

Let's see - 11 months ago I sterted following Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin program. Through this I have overcome a lifetime of disordered eating and have lost nearly 90 pounds so far, and brough my blood pressure down from scary high to perfect

This was the ideal program for me as my problems were from misuse and abuse of food, emotional eating and so on.

[Gaz]

I try to stick to the "Eat Right to Train Right" diet from Chris Carmichael. Basically it's getting the right combination of protein/carbs and fats for the various cycles in your training programme. Recently I've dropped off a little, mainly because I got a little fed up with running having failed to achieve my main goal earlier this year. Now I have new goals (more in a later post) and am starting this up again.

It's quite a good programme that isn't too restrictive. I found much better energy levels and found it easier to train when I was following it better.

[Beuford]

Wholemeal bread, baked beans(salt reduced), apples, oranges, mandarins, melons, wholemeal pasta, brown rice, beans(soy, navy, pinto.. whatever), peanuts, walnuts, almonds, nutmix, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, carrots, cauliflower, spinach, grapes, lentils, plus a lot more and occasionally I binge on junkfood. My idea of a binge is like 4 marshmallows or 2 cookies. Usually around when I get my braces tightened, as sometimes I don't feel like properly chewing up food with sore teeth. Mostly healthy though.

I used to eat whatever was out, no wholemeal, few fruits, and probably 20x as much junkfood. I used to drink soda and other things that werent juice or water.

Since I've changed my diet I've reduced the amount of time I sleep, increased the quality of my skin, reduced the frequency of pimples, reduced my heart rate and in general, feel a lot better about myself. As a 16 year old, I'm pretty happy that I can go to bed at midnight and wake up at 6:30-7:00am. EDIT: No alarm, naturally with the sun coming in the window.

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by Mogget

Let's see - 11 months ago I sterted following Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin program. Through this I have overcome a lifetime of disordered eating and have lost nearly 90 pounds so far, and brough my blood pressure down from scary high to perfect

This was the ideal program for me as my problems were from misuse and abuse of food, emotional eating and so on.

thanks Mogget
I have never heard of that program -do you have a link ?

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by Gaz

I try to stick to the "Eat Right to Train Right" diet from Chris Carmichael. Basically it's getting the right combination of protein/carbs and fats for the various cycles in your training programme. Recently I've dropped off a little, mainly because I got a little fed up with running having failed to achieve my main goal earlier this year. Now I have new goals (more in a later post) and am starting this up again.

It's quite a good programme that isn't too restrictive. I found much better energy levels and found it easier to train when I was following it better.

sounds interesting
do you run in marathons?

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by Beuford

Wholemeal bread, baked beans(salt reduced), apples, oranges, mandarins, melons, wholemeal pasta, brown rice, beans(soy, navy, pinto.. whatever), peanuts, walnuts, almonds, nutmix, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, carrots, cauliflower, spinach, grapes, lentils, plus a lot more and occasionally I binge on junkfood. My idea of a binge is like 4 marshmallows or 2 cookies. Usually around when I get my braces tightened, as sometimes I don't feel like properly chewing up food with sore teeth. Mostly healthy though.

I used to eat whatever was out, no wholemeal, few fruits, and probably 20x as much junkfood. I used to drink soda and other things that werent juice or water.

Since I've changed my diet I've reduced the amount of time I sleep, increased the quality of my skin, reduced the frequency of pimples, reduced my heart rate and in general, feel a lot better about myself. As a 16 year old, I'm pretty happy that I can go to bed at midnight and wake up at 6:30-7:00am. EDIT: No alarm, naturally with the sun coming in the window.

wow you are making me hungry !

it's great to see a 16 yo eating so well and I am glad your are reaping the benefits with better sleep and clearer skin

[Mogget]

Originally Posted by lifetimelearner

thanks Mogget
I have never heard of that program -do you have a link ?

try The Weight Loss Club with Paul McKenna - Official US Site try not to let the incredibly commercial and cheesy website put you off! The four 'rules' of the program are visible for free, and the membership provides access the the very very slow forum and gets you sent the hypnotic NLP tracks which support the cnages. For the cost I think it is tolerable value - while I was not hugeley impressed with his trances originally I have since compared to what else is available and relaised that a: he is VERY good in a comparative way, and B: I need to get recording!

As a result of the program my tastes have DRASTICALLY changed and I now I eat mostly healthy wholefoods - fruit, veg, meat, grains, nuts etc and about 5% playfood like chocolate/sweets/etc. I go through phases generally lasting a few days where I will eat much more of one type of thing (currently bread and vegemite), and then it will subside and something else will come to the fore.

[Gaz]

Originally Posted by lifetimelearner

sounds interesting
do you run in marathons?

Yeah. but they are becoming training runs. Next year my two big goals are

the Two Oceans a 56 km Ultra.

And the big one Comrades

I've got some ideas about things to do with relation to this plan. I'll post in the relevant forums once they are up and running. Suffice to say. The training plan starts on 1 November

[ginkgo]

Originally Posted by lifetimelearner

thanks for the reply ginkgo
but I was looking for personal experiences with dietary changes

could you tell me what exactly you eat and how it changed your life

By not eating animal foods and just eating plant foods, I do not get constipated anymore. But that is simple to figure out. Plant foods have fiber and animal foods have no fiber.

[Beuford]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

By not eating animal foods and just eating plant foods, I do not get constipated anymore. But that is simple to figure out. Plant foods have fiber and animal foods have no fiber.

I've experienced the same thing but it is probably also partially because I switched to wholemeal.

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by gaz

yeah. But they are becoming training runs. Next year my two big goals are

the two oceans a 56 km ultra.

And the big one comrades

i've got some ideas about things to do with relation to this plan. I'll post in the relevant forums once they are up and running. Suffice to say. The training plan starts on 1 november

wow !!
impressive

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by Mogget

try The Weight Loss Club with Paul McKenna - Official US Site try not to let the incredibly commercial and cheesy website put you off! The four 'rules' of the program are visible for free, and the membership provides access the the very very slow forum and gets you sent the hypnotic NLP tracks which support the cnages. For the cost I think it is tolerable value - while I was not hugeley impressed with his trances originally I have since compared to what else is available and relaised that a: he is VERY good in a comparative way, and B: I need to get recording!

As a result of the program my tastes have DRASTICALLY changed and I now I eat mostly healthy wholefoods - fruit, veg, meat, grains, nuts etc and about 5% playfood like chocolate/sweets/etc. I go through phases generally lasting a few days where I will eat much more of one type of thing (currently bread and vegemite), and then it will subside and something else will come to the fore.

thanks for the info
I will check it out !