Your ideal diet

[Aleksander Krstic]

I'm currently on a road to discover what is healthy and what's not.

I believe the following:
-eating fish is not veg
-fungi are veg
-raw is the best diet
-too much protein sucks
-processed food sucks, also juices(not smoothies)
-tea contains caffeine
-candies and Mc's are the worst types of processed foods

But that's where the list ends. So I'd like to ask you to write a brief list of what you believe is healthy or not(i.e. saturated/unsaturated, a lot of protein or not, high or low fat diet). You can also post what effects certain foods have(i.e. garlic is great for cleanses) and what kind of fasts you prefer.

EDIT: do not comment my diet please, just write about yours

[Michelle]

I believe perfect health comes from something different than food. It doesn't matter what one eats as long as one is in alignment with and feels good about it.

[Coffeesmurf]

I don't think there is an "ideal diet", but this is what I think is the basis for a healthy diet, as far as I'm concerned:

Protein from 'lean sources' such as chicken breast or tuna
Healthy fats from nuts, fish, avocados etc.
Complex carbs from oatmeal, muesli, potatoes etc.
Lots of varied vegetables
Fruit

Some of the principles I try to follow are:

• Eating every 2-3 hours
• Not drinking any calorie-containing drinks - only water, tea, coffee etc.
• Only eating simple carbs after exercise, where they are beneficial

[Beuford]

Perhaps the ideal diet is 100% raw vegan, but seeing as how we have a level of versatility, being a 95% herbivore with 75% raw would be almost exactly the same as 100% raw vegan for most people.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Michelle

I believe perfect health comes from something different than food. It doesn't matter what one eats as long as one is in alignment with and feels good about it.

I tend to agree with you.

[weblily]

In your Ideal diet you consider these things.
Fruits and Vegetables
Healthy Fats and Carbohydrates
Dietary Fiber
Meat, Fish and chicken
Vitamins

All makes your dieet Ideal.

[rocksupreme]

To me, the ideal diet would have to include bacon. And beer.

[Aleksander Krstic]

What's so good about them?

[aggie]

i eat several small meals per day...days when i am more active, i seem to eat less and need less as long as plenty of fluids.

drink mostly water, average a cup of cofee per day, some green tea, fuze drinks and red wine with evening meal.

eat more heavily in beginning of day....most of my carbs then. pretty much always whole grain bread with sunflower butter and fruit.

snacks in between of nuts, fruit, protein bars. lunch is sometimes heavier when i may do cheeses and pasta (am italian) and salad.

eggs sporadically...have to be in the mood.

fish and avacados a few times a week...

big salad for dinner...hummus and whole grain crackers or cereal as snacks.

on occasion when i eat out i am a bit more liberal with what i eat.

no red meat, no chicken. no pork.

[Andrew Gubb]

Healthy:

seaweed
sprouts
legumes (especially sprouted)
Olives
Avocadoes
Nuts
Brown rice
Berries

Unhealthy:

Tap water
Soya
Peanuts
Any artificial additives

[Beuford]

Well soy and peanuts aren't the best, but they are certainly a step up from beer and bacon. Ideally I wouldn't eat soy, but a few organic peanuts mixed in with other nuts shouldn't be so bad.

[agnostic]

I believe that the most unhealthy foods are sugary foods. Sweets, sugared beverages etc. The rest is fine as long as it's actual food and not some chemicals that fake it. I do think that one should limit the starchy parts of the food, i.e.: potatoes, rice, noodles and bread for the same reason one should limit sweets - Too many carbohydrates too fast in your bloodstream, which gives you blood sugar swings and can make you insulin-resistant.
On the other hand I think that saturated fat is healthy and that meat is an essential part of a healthy long-term human diet. For B12, zinc, iron, etc. animal foods are among the best sources, sometimes - as in B12 - the only ones that can provide sufficient supply. In fact, one can live a healthy life on nothing but meat and water.
So apart from staying away from strict veganism, I'd advocate limiting your carb intake and especially the sugar intake, because this is stuff that only became part of the human diet due to agriculture and civilization. The rest should be eaten according to personal taste (raw or cooked, more vegetables or more meat, more fat or less), which is probably much more on point in terms of what you should eat than all the nutritional nonsense you read these days (If you were an excellent journalist, would you want to write the health column?). Alcohol in moderation also ironically seems to be better than no alcohol at all.

So to sum it up, limit high-carb foods, especially sugar, try to get high-quality food and let your taste determine the rest. You'll probably end up healthier than people putting more thought and effort into this topic.

[agnostic]

Originally Posted by rocksupreme

To me, the ideal diet would have to include bacon. And beer.

Try this. You'll love it.

[Aleksander Krstic]

Originally Posted by agnostic

I believe that the most unhealthy foods are sugary foods. Sweets, sugared beverages etc. The rest is fine as long as it's actual food and not some chemicals that fake it. I do think that one should limit the starchy parts of the food, i.e.: potatoes, rice, noodles and bread for the same reason one should limit sweets - Too many carbohydrates too fast in your bloodstream, which gives you blood sugar swings and can make you insulin-resistant.
On the other hand I think that saturated fat is healthy and that meat is an essential part of a healthy long-term human diet. For B12, zinc, iron, etc. animal foods are among the best sources, sometimes - as in B12 - the only ones that can provide sufficient supply. In fact, one can live a healthy life on nothing but meat and water.
So apart from staying away from strict veganism, I'd advocate limiting your carb intake and especially the sugar intake, because this is stuff that only became part of the human diet due to agriculture and civilization. The rest should be eaten according to personal taste (raw or cooked, more vegetables or more meat, more fat or less), which is probably much more on point in terms of what you should eat than all the nutritional nonsense you read these days (If you were an excellent journalist, would you want to write the health column?). Alcohol in moderation also ironically seems to be better than no alcohol at all.

So to sum it up, limit high-carb foods, especially sugar, try to get high-quality food and let your taste determine the rest. You'll probably end up healthier than people putting more thought and effort into this topic.

I don't quite agree with you but this is good for you:

Originally Posted by Michelle

I believe perfect health comes from something different than food. It doesn't matter what one eats as long as one is in alignment with and feels good about it.

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

Healthy:

seaweed
sprouts
legumes (especially sprouted)
Olives
Avocadoes
Nuts
Brown rice
Berries

Unhealthy:

Tap water
Soya
Peanuts
Any artificial additives

tell me about the peanuts Andrew ?

[Sam988]

I believe the ideal diet is a Calorie Restriction diet. Keeps one in top shape, and it has the potential to extend one's lifespan dramatically.

Good things to eat/drink, while in a CR diet:

- Nuts (lots of good fat there)
- Chicken (lean meat) and fish
- Lots of vegetables
- Fruits, preferably with lower amounts of fructose
- Tea, preferably green tea


Things to avoid:

- Saturated fats (they're ok at reasonable amounts, which are much less than the average american diet consumes), and obviously the big villain trans fat, which IS as bad as it's portrayed
- Processed sugar, foods with high Glycemic Index
- Generally, foods high in calories but low in nutrient content: "empty calories" foods.


May have forgotten a few (many) things, in which case i'll add in later.

Originally Posted by Michelle

I believe perfect health comes from something different than food. It doesn't matter what one eats as long as one is in alignment with and feels good about it.

Cool! I suppose i could adopt this belief if i were to live a fast-food based lifestyle. I'd feel great until my 40s-50s when i'd get a stroke.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Sam988

Cool! I suppose i could adopt this belief if i were to live a fast-food based lifestyle. I'd feel great until my 40s-50s when i'd get a stroke.

Or not!

Disorder drives man to eat 23,000 Big Macs - Mental health- msnbc.com

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by lifetimelearner

tell me about the peanuts Andrew ?

Supposed to be an extremely mucus-forming food.

[Lisa McGregor]

The South Beach Diet.

L

[agnostic]

Originally Posted by Aleksander Krstic

I don't quite agree with you but this is good for you:

Thanks for that quote. I think that's good advice. All the stress and malnutrition from following an extreme form of diet based on the dodgy science nutrition is right now probably does more harm than a piece of cake eaten with peace of mind.

What exactly of what I said is it you disagree with? I always try to find out if I'm wrong with something.

[Sam988]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

Or not!

Disorder drives man to eat 23,000 Big Macs - Mental health- msnbc.com

I'd love to see this guy's biomarkers. Really, if what he says is true, it would be very interesting to see how his organism is doing.

[rocksupreme]

Originally Posted by agnostic

Try this. You'll love it.

That's pretty cool. If I were interested in losing weight, I would definitely look into it.

[rocksupreme]

Originally Posted by Aleksander Krstic

What's so good about them?

About bacon and beer? Well, they're freaking delicious, for a start. Eating bacon and drinking beer makes me happy.

[rocksupreme]

Originally Posted by Sam988

...it has the potential to extend one's lifespan dramatically.

Lots of things can extend lifespan dramatically. Caloric restriction is not proven to extend life expectancy in humans.

The thing about severe caloric restriction is that it's no fun. It would make more sense to restrict known poisons (carcinogens, overly processed or sugary foods) than overall calories.

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

Supposed to be an extremely mucus-forming food.

is there a site or book where you obtained this info
I would be interested in reading it

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by lifetimelearner

is there a site or book where you obtained this info
I would be interested in reading it

Amazon.com: The Raw Food Detox Diet: The Five-Step Plan for Vibrant Health and Maximum Weight Loss (9780060834371): Natalia Rose: Books

A book called the Raw Food Detox Diet. It had a little section saying that peanuts and soy are the most mucus-forming foods on the planet, and are very unhealthy.

Also my intuition just doesn't like them, which is why I listen in the first place. Note that I have a condition where mucus-forming foods affect me very badly, which may be why I find soy and peanuts so bad for me. Other people might be OK with them.

[Beuford]

Peanuts supposedly absorb more pesticides than other plants, so you'd have to get them organic, but the ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 is unbalanced as they have a lot more omega-6 than omega-3. They also have some other thing in them which I did not memorise the name of, but in large quantities over time it could be a negative. I wouldn't worry about eating peanuts sometimes.

[Lisa McGregor]

2 scrambled eggs and 1 rasher bacon for breakfast with 3 fish oil capsules, a multi vit. and one cup of coffee.

lean meat and vegetables/raw veg salad for lunch

lean meat and vegetables/raw veg salad for dinner

nuts for snacks - but not too many.

rooibos tea with lemon or water to drink.

no sodas or fast food. Pudding as a treat on occasion (like twice a year). Good quality dark chocolate on occasion.

Wine at weekends but not too much.

L

[aelle]

When it comes to feeding my body, my body knows better than my brain.
I eat in quantities that make me feel good, as often as I feel good, food that makes me feels good in the short and long run.

[Aleksander Krstic]

Originally Posted by aelle

When it comes to feeding my body, my body knows better than my brain.
I eat in quantities that make me feel good, as often as I feel good, food that makes me feels good in the short and long run.

I can't possibly disagree with you.