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Old 08-31-2009, 10:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been dieting and walking alot but the weight won't budge. So I'm using Steve's strategy called Overwhelming Force to lose weight quickly with more intensity rather than gradually. In order to do this I will need to drastically change my diet and get some more exercise.
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Being fruitarian is a quick way to lose weight. You will not consume any salt for 30 days and salt is very fattening. If you gave up salt for a month you would also lose weight.

The one exception is the fruit that cannot be eaten raw since it is toxic. So it must be cured or cooked. So olives do have salt added to it.
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Take good care of your teeth while trying this. Try to brush before meals rather than right after.
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Take good care of your teeth while trying this. Try to brush before meals rather than right after.
The above applies especially to highly acid fruits like grapefruits. Brushing first takes away the plaque that reacts with the sugar.
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Well i all depends on weather or not you go back to your poor eating habits after the 30 day trial. Good luck anyway, this is also something i have wanted to try but never got round to. Can you recommend any good websites / books
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Try it, but it won't help you lose fat. You'll lose weight alright - mostly muscle.

I did it for 30 days, and in the end I was hallucinating about meat and hamburgers. I lost almost 5kg on fruit only - mostly muscle. In the end I was literally starving myself. I'd rather not eat anything than eat fruit, because the monotony of fruit was killing me.

Fruit is extremely high in fructose sugar. This will raise your insulin and make you more fat.

You could just eat sugar all day, no difference.
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Try it, but it won't help you lose fat. You'll lose weight alright - mostly muscle.

I did it for 30 days, and in the end I was hallucinating about meat and hamburgers. I lost almost 5kg on fruit only - mostly muscle. In the end I was literally starving myself. I'd rather not eat anything than eat fruit, because the monotony of fruit was killing me.

Fruit is extremely high in fructose sugar. This will raise your insulin and make you more fat.

You could just eat sugar all day, no difference.
I disagree with your entire post, except the second paragraph which i cannot prove nor disprove.

You'll lose weight, yes. If you are hungry, you aren't eating enough. Eat more! Try to include as much variety as possible.

The natural sugars in fruits will not raise your insulin and make you more fat. That's ridiculous. Steve Pavlina's own raw food trial included carefully monitoring his blood sugar levels, and he NEVER had a spike in the entire month. Yes, he was eating vegetables as well, but honestly, you will not get fat from eating nothing but fruit.

If you are eating enough food, and still maintaining some level of activity (ie exercise, walking, whatever), you'll lose weight, and be/feel healthier.

Last week, I was down for the count with a very nasty sinus infection. I had no appetite at all, and had to force myself to eat so that I could take powerful antibiotics. The only food I could eat was raw fruits and veggies... nothing else would stay down.

After 3 days of that, I had the most amazing mental clarity, my digestive system seemed to be working great, with no gas or discomfort (which I just assumed was a regular thing for me), and I did manage to lose weight.

I know part of the weight loss was due to illness, and not much appetite, but considering I essentially lived on nectarines, bananas, and carrots, no one can tell me that the amount of NATURAL sugars I was eating was unhealthy.
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It doesn't matter if the fructose in fruit is "natural" or not. It's sugar. High Fructose Corn Sirup contains fructose. That's why it's called High FRUCTOSE Corn Sirup.

You will lose weight, yes. But not fat.

Eating enough food was almost impossible for me. Fruit has such a limited variety that I can't stand most fruits to this day, I was that fed up with them. Yes there are lots of fruits, but they almost all taste the same after a few days. The only ones I still like are bananas, coconut (almost impossible to eat enough due to extreme amounts of chewing necessary, my jaw hurt after every meal), grapes and berries.

I don't care how natural the sugar in your fruit is, it's still just candy from a tree. Monitor your insulin if you don't believe me. Measure your bodyfat percentage. My bet is on a 100% fruit diet you'll lose weight, gain fat and increase insulin resistance.

But try it for yourself. And measure, because I don't believe any of the esoteric lightheadedness you described. I feel lightheaded too after not eating anything for two days of sickness.
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I dont feel like arguing with you about this, so I'll just say, "what did not work for you, may work for others."
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That's why I said: try it, but be objective. Measure.

Thanks for playing.
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Fruit is a very healthy part of a BALANCED diet. Notice the word balanced, because a frutarian diet is not balanced. I'm with Bleckie on this. I tried a fruit only diet once, and must say my blood sugar was just as expected, very high. Natural sugar means nothing except it comes from a whole food, it still is a simple sugar that if you eat too much of it you will most likely develop insulin resitance over time. The funny part is that the people who believe a high sugar diet to be healthy, are the exact same people who will say a high fat diet is unhealthy. I believe fruit to be very healthy, but it should be limited to an extent. Will you lose weight? Most likely. Will you feel good after 30 days on this? Perhaps. Is it healthy for extended periods of time? Not a chance. Sugar, no matter where it comes from makes your pancreas produce insulin, because we can only have a limited amount of sugar in our blood at any given time. The more often you raise insulin levels, the more resistant you become to insulin, which in turn leads to diabetes. Will that happen over 1 month? No. Over a lifetime? Most likely. Try it out, monitor yourself, and see how everything goes. As for me though, I tried it, and got very negative results, and science feels the same.
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Being fruitarian is a quick way to lose weight. You will not consume any salt for 30 days and salt is very fattening. If you gave up salt for a month you would also lose weight.

The one exception is the fruit that cannot be eaten raw since it is toxic. So it must be cured or cooked. So olives do have salt added to it.
So I'm guessing that I can't put seasoned salt on avocados? Or is that a negligible amount of salt?
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Are you kidding me? Salt doesn't make you fat at all. All it does is make the body store more water. You'll maybe gain a little water weight by eating salt, but not at all will you gain fat!
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