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Old 08-21-2009, 04:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have begun a new series of supplements for adrenal function. I am using Dr. James Wilson's products combined with 400 mg magnesium glycinate and 1 tsp cod liver oil.

Hoping to have a boost of energy and of mood - a get up and go sense of drive. I have plans to accomplish but have been in a blue funk. Decided to address go after it by addressing physiological issues first.

Anyone here overcome adrenal fatigue? How did you do it and what difference did it make in your life?
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Old 08-23-2009, 07:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There is no such recognized medical diagnosis. This is something invented by supplement dealers.

Adrenal fatigue: Is there such a thing? - MayoClinic.com

I visited the Dr Wilson site, and I could not find any studies or research to back up the idea. For fun I clicked on the "Take the Adrenal Fatigue Quiz", and it listed a bunch of vague problems that could be caused by just plain old stress. Sorry, but I question the validity of the claims of that web site.

If your adrenal glands aren't functioning properly, it's called Addinson's Disease. You should see your doctor if you suspect you're having adrenal gland problems.

General fatigue can be caused by any number of things. When I was younger I was really fatigued, stressed, and lethargic. I couldn't figure it out. Turns out I had mono and didn't know it. It took a trip to the doctor and some blood work and I got a proper diagnosis.

Please see your doctor!
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i got adrenal fatigue after having a major nervous breakdown.

i could not even go jogging. after two minutes my heart was racing, i was out of breath. it's not that i was out of shape at all!! for a long time i had to 'rest' because i was really burnt out.

stay off caffeine. i know maybe you need it because you are burnt out - at least minimize your intake. i switched to green tea because its a different form of caffeine and somehow it can make a difference
what saved me was going to a naturopath who then helped me out with some herbal tinctures and a different diet.

modern medicine may not be able to help you out with this one - as it seems someone already pointed out that according to them it does not really exist unless you have a disease.

but you might want to humour going to a doctor just incase you do have an actual disease - i still recommend a naturopath for an alternative diagnosis/treatment.
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amixa - caffeine of any sort will work against you. It is hard to go without but do it and within a week or two your energy will rebound.

And I'll skip that doctor part. I know my own body and when I discovered James Wilson's book by accident a couple of years ago I knew I had found something. The times I have taken his supplements have been very good periods for me. Back on adrenal support and looking forward to the benefits.

When I have taken his skin, nails and hair supplements I have been able to grow fingernails for the first time in my life. When I am off - no chance.

Funchy's post makes me wish we had a big DELETE button. Don't you wonder why people feel the need to insert themselves where they are not wanted?
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've heard that the mineral tin is very good for the adrenal glands. Tin is to the adrenals what iodine is to the thyroid.

I have adrenal issues myself and recently got some angstrom tin. Haven't been taking it that long yet, but I'm hoping for a good outcome. We'll see.
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I believe I have that right now from drinking coffee. I've been drinking a lot of espresso lately and I just feel fried when I don't have my "fix." Magnesium glycinate? I'll have to try it myself. I haven't felt much adrenaline in a long time. Perhaps supplements can help.
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I read Wilson's book. Changed my life. I was so drained that I couldn't get off the sofa. I never took his supplements. I did eat at least 50% raw food diet which did wonders. I also started taking vitamins and exercise. Also dealt with my emotions and stopped blocking out my thoughts and feelings. All those helped me get my life back. Still it took a year until I was back to myself again. I seem to be more susceptible to stress since then so I keep up with what I mentioned previously and make sure I keep meditating to.
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rawxstasy - your post is a shot in the arm - just the boost and encouragement I needed. Thank you. Need to move into the raw. I love fruit and I love salad. I can go raw with those and then eat cooked fish and some meat. Thank you.

ShinyGlass - really tin - fascinating. I'll add it to my small group of stuff. Thanks.


Brunelle - breaking that caffeine habit is as hard as it gets but boy can it make a difference. No kidding. A big difference.
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Funchy's post makes me wish we had a big DELETE button. Don't you wonder why people feel the need to insert themselves where they are not wanted?
This is a public forum. There's no point in complaining when someone responds as they see fit so long as they aren't trolling. If you don't want the reasoned objections of people who think differently than you, go to a place where everyone mirrors your thoughts.
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This is a public forum. There's no point in complaining when someone responds as they see fit so long as they aren't trolling. If you don't want the reasoned objections of people who think differently than you, go to a place where everyone mirrors your thoughts.
Exactly, and funchy definately is adding something to the discussion, even though it's not something that you agree with. This is a thread about adrenal fatigue, and there are many different viewpoints about what causes it, and what it actually is. Why not put them all out there and allow each of us to decide?

Personally, I believe that adrenal fatigue is real, not misdiagnosed or imagined. I also believe that it (like most other ailments) can be resolved through energetic alignments and resolution of emotional issues. I have to also say, I have no personal experience specifically with adrenal fatigue, that is just my intuition.

And good luck to you with your supplements. It sounds like they are working well for you, and maybe we all should give them a try! Thank you...

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Ok - let me get this straight Your NOT so Humble Narrator - YOU can complain about my point of view but I am NOT to complain about Funchy's. Hmm. That seems reasonable from a NOT so humble narrator, reasonable indeed.
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I don't know Angela. I'm wondering what extreme caustic holier-than-thouism is a symptom of.
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Ha! Very good! I don't know - being "Legendary," maybe.

Turns out cantankerousness IS a symptom of adrenal fatigue -- I looked it up. Also being unable to laugh at a joke about yourself, and being annoyed when someone tells you that you don't look so good. (Who wouldn't be? )

Dr. Wilson's porcine adrenal supplements and the Adrenal Institute's bovine adrenal supplements sound like a terrible idea to me. Ingesting the gland products of PIGS and COWS to "support" your endocrine system? Blechhh -- doesn't sound smart to me!

The rest of the treatment suggestions sound like good ideas for anyone, whether they have adrenal fatigue or not -- eat clean, exercise, make sure you're getting enough of the right vitamins and minerals, minimize caffeine, get plenty of quality rest, and LAUGH.

I would add practicing acceptance and relaxation meditation to that treatment. The Chill Pill!

@rawxtasy -- I keep hearing more and more about the benefits of increasing the percentage of raw, and you may be the tipping point for me. Thanks for the inspiration!

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Ingesting the gland products of PIGS and COWS to "support" your endocrine system? Blechhh -- doesn't sound smart to me!
oops your ignorance is showing - complete and utter ignorance - again.
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oops your ignorance is showing - complete and utter ignorance - again.
You think? Do you mean my "udder" ignorance?

I read the ingredients in Dr. Wilson's adrenal fatigue supplements, and they do indeed contain the adrenal, gonad, hypothalamus and pituitary products of pigs. And the infomercially Adrenal Institute (no apparent relation to Dr. Wilson), on which there are many reports of scammy activity all over the web, does list bovine glandular products in its ingredients -- okay, maybe not cow, it looks like it may be BULL gland products.

So, of what, exactly, am I showing complete and utter ignorance?

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Funchy's post makes me wish we had a big DELETE button.
The universe has heard your angst and has manifested me, here in this thread, to answer your call:

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It doesn't look like you can completely "ignore" someone, though -- you still get a little niggling "reminder" of their existence in the form of "BadPerson is on your ignore list so you can't see this message!" -- which may be even MORE annoying! The more you resist those button-pushers, the more they tend to end up pushing your buttons!

I think that would be a great technique to add to the treatment of adrenal fatigue or any of the other descriptions for that collection of symptoms -- disconnect the mechanism that causes your habitual unpleasant reactions, so that you're free to choose something that works and feels better. It may be that there are physiological causes for the lethargy, crankiness, powerlessness, sleep trouble, etc., and it's amazing how much influence deliberate thought can have on your physiology.

Food choices, too. It seems kind of contradictory to me to make vitalizing eating choices, and at the same time to supplement your body with the products of pig and bull glands. The raw plan, or just clean eating, sounds like a wise choice to me.
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Somebody help me out. I feel this niggling urge to see what she said.



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LOL

Who could IL you anyway? You're so damn positive. Reading your posts just makes my day sometimes.

(other times it makes me even grumpier when I'm already in a grumpy mood and I am like "hummph, positivity..bah humbug"...but then it goes away and I'm good again. )
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Angela - I wasn't making a comment about your ability to read. Let me help you out of your ignorance re: ignorance.

ig·no·rance; Pronunciation: \ˈig-n(ə-)rən(t)s\; Function: noun; Date: 13th century. : the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge

James - thanks for the pleasure of releasing me from the state of ignorance about the "ignore" button. I can't wait!
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James - thanks for the pleasure of releasing me from the state of ignorance about the "ignore" button. I can't wait!
I'm always here to help.

Now that I've released you from the negative voices clouding you mind, is there anything else I can do for you today? Post a witty joke, a cute limerick, or smack you across the head and tell you not to kick a gift horse in the mouth?
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Oh - I did it and I LOVE it!

No niggling urge HERE!
Problem solved.
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I'll take the joke.

You may see a gift horse from your end. I see a horse's ass from this one.


btw - like the 8/26 entry in soulsasylum

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Thanks, and I'm sorry! What is "IL"?

@wordkeeper -- again I ask, what is the nature of my ignorance? You ask me to let you help me out of my ignorance, and I accept. About what was I showing ignorance?

uh-oh, maybe I'm being ignored. James81, would you do me a favor and find out what I was being ignorant of?

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Thanks, and I'm sorry! What is "IL"?

@wordkeeper -- again I ask, what is the nature of my ignorance? You ask me to let you help me out of my ignorance, and I accept. About what was I showing ignorance?

uh-oh, maybe I'm being ignored. James81, would you do me a favor and find out what I was being ignorant of?
IL = Ignore List

And hence another downfall of the IL...once someone quotes someone on your IL, you are forced to read it.
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ha, ha, ha. Is THAT my witty joke?
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And hence another downfall of the IL...once someone quotes someone on your IL, you are forced to read it.
D-ohhhh..... ignorance. It isn't foolproof!
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ha, ha, ha. Is THAT my witty joke?


Just wait til you see my limerick!
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lay it on me brother -
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