Sugar: The Bitter Truth

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Hardcore,man...
UCSF Professor of Pediatrics, Division of Endocrinology explores the damage caused by sugary foods--and he isn't talking about Candy...

[Rose of Cairo]

Thanks for sharing!

I liked especially this quote:

If you ate everything as it came out of the ground, raw, with no cooking, you'd cure diabetes on a dime. Takes about one week.

[scorpio1980]

Excellent video, thanks for sharing.

[AlexH]

Great vid, Thanks

[Victor Vikingr]

Agreed. Awesome.

[ginkgo]

Sorry, this is not news to me. I knew this before Steve Pavlina proved this with his juice diet. His juice diet cost more than eating those foods since solid food fills you up. But if you drink lots of those foods, you just urinate a lot.

This is on my website on losing weight. It has been there for years. In fact if you show someone 8 teaspoons of sugar and ask them if they want to consume it in the next 10 minutes, they will say "no." But it dissolves in water and becomes invisible.

So that is what is in a can of soda (soft drink)-- 8 teaspoons of sugar. Bottles have even more sugar or corn syrup. So if your time is invaluable, you do not need to spend an hour of your time watching this video. He is saying that liquids are not filling so you can drink lots of soda and not be full since you urinate out the water.

So no one wants to eat 8 teaspoons of pure sugar in 10 minutes. But if you put it in water and then drink it and then urinate out the water, you are left with just the sugar. So with Steve juicing his foods he was getting more nutrition than from eating. But it works the same way with sugar or HFCS.

But you can drink green or white tea sweetened with stevia or get used to it unsweetened, instead of water. Water is not a good drink since it is tasteless. Imagine eating tasteless foods. In fact Trader Joes just came out with teas in pryamid bags. I bought the Revive. It has (all organic ingredients) hibiscus, green tea, rose hips, ginger, lemongrass, orange peel and apple and strawberry leaf. The box says "naturally sweet tea."

Now you are supposed to stay well hydrated in very hot weather. But if you do it with these sweetened drinks, you will be drinking more calories than you eat. Also the video mentions the salt in the soft drinks.

A drink is for quenching your thirst but salt is anti-water. It causes water not to work. This has been on my website for years. So you are on a raft in the sea and dying of dehydration even though you are surrounded by water. But if you drink that water, it makes you thirstier due to all the salt in it. So this causes you to need much more soda to quench your thirst.

In fact the ingredients are so cheap that a 20 fl. ounce bottle costs around $1.59 but a 2 liter bottle of it that is over 3 times as much but costs just 99 cents. Note that the small ones are refrigerated so you are paying for the energy usage to keep it cold.

[Beuford]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

Water is not a good drink since it is tasteless. Imagine eating tasteless foods.

I love drinking water

[Holistic Star]

I don't think water is tasteless! But then I don't drink soda - maybe that's why.

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

Water is not a good drink since it is tasteless. Imagine eating tasteless foods.

I don't agree. To me water is not tasteless at all. It definitely has a strong taste. And different waters have different tastes.

But the best drink ever is the water you find in fresh, organic, raw fruit and veggies anyway.

[ginkgo]

This is basic science! Water can pick up tastes from things that it comes in contact with but it is supposed to be colorless, tasteless and odorless. That way it has no effect on the taste of the tea you make or the fruit or vegetables that it is in.

Water Science for Schools: Water properties, water measurements says "Looking at water, you might think that it's the most simple thing around. Pure water is colorless, odorless, and tasteless."

Is water tasteless? | Smart QandA: Answers and facts you can trust, verified with Encyclopedia.com says " water-- odorless, tasteless, transparent liquid that is colorless in small amounts but exhibits a bluish tinge in large quantities."

Water Definition | Definition of Water at Dictionary.com says "a transparent, odorless, tasteless liquid, a compound of hydrogen and oxygen, H2O, freezing at 32°F or 0°C and boiling at 212°F or 100°C, that in a more or less impure state constitutes rain, oceans, lakes, rivers, etc.: it contains 11.188 percent hydrogen and 88.812 percent oxygen, by weight."

[funchy]

Interesting video. Thanks for sharing.

I was a little concerned he wasn't paying too close attention to details though. In some parts he clearly delineates between "sugared" soft drinks, and in other parts he just looks at intake of "soda". For example he talked of a study in the UK where soda was removed from schools and claims removing it caused obesity to drop. But every soda machine I've seen has diet sodas in it. Is it the the carbonated beverage, the phosphoric acid, the caffeine, OR the sugar which is creating the change? And if the school is making sweeping health-food reforms (common when soda machines are removed) are we 100% sure the food in the cafeteria has not changed?

I was confused by his contradictory evidence on fructose. One study he cited on African American women and diabetes showed soda and fruit drinks causing problems but if I understand him right, grapefruit juice and OJ was not. But whole-fruit fruitjuices such as OJ are full of fructose?! And later he's advocating fiber but a great fiber source is fruit.

He assumes fat is good, but he lumps all fats into the same category. He contradicts himself by saying it's "sugar" that causes obesity but also keeps referring to his "law of thermodynamics" of dieting: calories in vs calories out. A person can avoid soda and candy and still gain weight. He's also oddly ignoring diseases such as arteriosclerosis.

He claims the fed government "makes food cheap" but the reality is its main control, the Farm Bill, only makes the junkiest foods cheap. It subsidies sugar and grains such as livestock feed, with little or no money for fruits, veggies, or organic. He says HFCS is "cheap" but at the moment it's no longer so cheap compared with regular sugar; take for example Pepsi which is now putting regular sugar back into their sodas on a trial basis.

I am not sure about his assumptions about Ancel Keys' studies. He was using lots of big statistics words to impress us in his analysis of Keys' data... "multivariate linear regression" blah blah blah He claims we can't test Keys' study, which doesn't make sense. Where did the data go? Why can't we plug it into a computer and re-analyze? And if we can't re-analyze how can he claim to draw any conclusions from the study?

Yes, low-fat processed food is usually loaded with additional sugar. But why talk about processed foods at all? Why are ANY oreo cookies a good choice for anyone? LOL

Overall I don't completely dismiss the presentation but I am taking it with a grain of salt. He's an endocrinologist which in laymens terms means he specializes in diabetes among other things. He may know diabetes well, but is he a cardiovascular specialist? A few bits of info were interesting but it was hard to wade through 1.5 hours of his conclusions about sugar.

[ginkgo]

Originally Posted by funchy

Interesting video. Thanks for sharing.

Yes, low-fat processed food is usually loaded with additional sugar. But why talk about processed foods at all? Why are ANY oreo cookies a good choice for anyone? LOL [shortened]

Overall I don't completely dismiss the presentation but I am taking it with a grain of salt. He's an endocrinologist which in laymens terms means he specializes in diabetes among other things. He may know diabetes well, but is he a cardiovascular specialist? A few bits of info were interesting but it was hard to wade through 1.5 hours of his conclusions about sugar.

Thanks! I did not watch entire video, but everything that you say is absolutely correct. Now here is what I say. Fructose is what makes fruit sweet. It has a low glycemic index meaning that it enters the blood slowly even without fiber, but the fiber slows it down more.

The faster the sugar enters the blood the more fattening it is and more diabetes causing it is. So my advice is to eat foods made by nature, like living foods that grow, and avoid man-made foods. Note diet sodas are sweetened with artificial sweeteners and studies show that they are fattening even though they do not know why.

There is no need to talk about his profession. What do you call a guy who graduates last in his class in medical school? Answer-- doctor. Doctors are people and this one is confused. But on this issue he is not alone.

In this article, The Biggest Nutrition Myth Ever, it quotes an MD, an ND and webmd.com to show that all of them are confused.

The funny thing is that the MD is a brilliant nutritionist. He is on PBS on TV. I quote him on my webpage on losing weight. It says "Mark Hyman, MD, editor in chief of the medical journal Alternatives in Health and Medicine says (in Bottom Line Yearbook 2008), "Myth 1: The less you eat, the more weight you'll lose.... In my experience, the average person who goes on a diet actually gains 5 pound instead of losing weight. Never go on a "diet." Instead eat foods that turn on your metabolism. These are whole foods that come from nature, such as vegetables, fruits, whole grains, nuts, seeds, beans...."

Myth 3: You can control your weight by counting calories.... Losing weight is not about counting calories-- it's about eating the right calories.... Myth 4: Eating fat makes you fat.... Myth 5: Going low-carbohydrate makes you thin. Carbohydrates are the the single most important food that you can eat for long term health and weight loss.... However, just as there are different fats, there are different types of carbohydrates."

But his quote on the above article clearly shows that he does not know the difference between a simple and complex carbohydrate. He talks about complex and refined carbs. He has confused simple and complex carbs with refined and whole grains. This is like saying that there are men and hens and then there are roosters and women.

Now a college textbook on nutrition explains it clearly, but there is no need to talk about complex and simple carbs outside of that class.

In an anthropology class they explain that one race is the negroid race. But there is no need for that talk outside of that class. There is no need to say that President Obama is of the Negroid race since it has no bearing on anything.

Also if you do a search you find that professionals are mixed up about the above and simple sugars. Here is a Google search for simple sugars.

Now if sex is with one person, it is masturbation. Sex with 2 people is regular sex. But it is not called simple and complex sex. See 'single' does not mean 'simple'. 'Double' does not mean 'complex.'

So there are are single and double sugars-- 'monosaccharides and disaccharides.' 'Mono' means one and 'di' means two. But there are no simple and complex sugars. A car is the same as an automobile. A simple carb is the same as a sugar. A complex carb is the same as a starch. This in the college textbooks on nutrition that I have.

If there were a simple sugar then it would be a simple-simple carbohydrate. If there were a complex sugar then it would be a complex-simple carbohydrate. But there are none. But look at the search above and see experts talking about it like it does exist. This is simple confusion, not to be confused with complex confusion.

[juice43]

Whoa. I'm just stunned. Looking around my house, I realize that my diet has high fructose corn syrup in almost everything (and I thought I loved KETCHUP). I should just drink water (since I don't really like the taste of milk).

A good quote was fructose is alcohol (ethanol) without the buzz.
Quite good to watch. He did his debunking alright. Informative.

Nice find, thanks.

[sirkinm]

Thanks for the link!

[Charly]

I'm glad to see this is getting around. I posted it on my blog a few days ago.

Gingko, from what I read diet sodas make you fat because they cause an insulin spike (high insulinic index) despite not being metabolized for energy (0 calories).

It's like an empty, fast carb.

Careful with milk, low GI but high insulinic index.

[ang569]

Thanks for posting that! very informative. Now, I am left wondering over what to have for lunch.

[lifetimelearner]

oh sugar how it brings back memories

YouTube - NANCY SINATRA - Sugar Town 1967

[lifetimelearner]

the above video was just for fun


I am however a fan of Dr Mcdougall
here are some articles about sugar -


Dr. McDougall's response to: Looking Past Blood Sugar to Survive With Diabetes by Gina Kolata in the August 20, 2007 New York Times


McDougall Program: Medical Research: High Carb Diet Linked to Breast Cancer: More Deceit

[ginkgo]

Originally Posted by Charly

I'm glad to see this is getting around. I posted it on my blog a few days ago.

Gingko, from what I read diet sodas make you fat because they cause an insulin spike (high insulinic index) despite not being metabolized for energy (0 calories).

It's like an empty, fast carb.

Careful with milk, low GI but high insulinic index.

Do you have a link or more complete explanation? So far it does not make sense. The insulin is produced when the sugar in the blood rises above a certain point. An artificial sweetener cannot do this since it has no calories.

If insulin is produced when there is no extra sugar in the blood, it would cause the blood sugar to go too low and the person would die! The insulin takes the sugar out of the blood and the person has too little to survive if that were the case.

[coolbgdog]

Pretty good posts Ginkgo..

[Joeschmoe]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

Do you have a link or more complete explanation? So far it does not make sense. The insulin is produced when the sugar in the blood rises above a certain point. An artificial sweetener cannot do this since it has no calories.

If insulin is produced when there is no extra sugar in the blood, it would cause the blood sugar to go too low and the person would die! The insulin takes the sugar out of the blood and the person has too little to survive if that were the case.

If i remember correctly it's one of the many unsubstantiated claims made by Dr. Atkins in his "New Diet Revolution."

That book is the perfect example of people wanting to hear good news about their bad habits.