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Old 07-17-2009, 06:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Eat a diet of fastfood if that makes you happy. Your bodies will do with whatever you believe - period. (not a typo or incorrect grammar)

You do not have to - believe - pavlina, or whomever else tells you what is right.

And that, my friends, is your ultimate purpose -

Eat whatever the hell you want - But. You better believe it.

Do you tell your eyes to see, or how you should grow a fingernail?
Do you control your breathing or know what the bottom of your feet are doing? Do you tell your hearts to beat and take count?

Even your guru guide to this website does not trust his creaturehood or the integrity of his very own body. I am telling you all of life, and every food is blessed and sacred. I am telling you that you can eat whatever you want !

If you believe you can.
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So if I ate nothing but battery fluid and I truly believed I would be healthy -- you think I will be?

Have you considered doing a 30 day trial?
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I believe you are right but.......you still have to work within the mass-mind's consensus reality and the consensus is that battery fluid (I guess you mean the weak sulphuric acid found inside lead acid batteries) would be harmful to you.

Currently there is a trend toward calling meat unhealthy and dairy products unhealthy , this is due to the animal rights activists pushing these ideas to bolster their position. As long as the tipping point is not reached this will not become the consensus reality. resist control, RESIST by affirming your beliefs and living them. Eat meat, just be grateful for it and affirm that you are healthy. All foods are clean.
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But. You better believe it.
I agree. And it's as true as telling us that "You can fly through the air like superman, purely on the power of your own mind and body -- But. You better believe it."

That is to say, there are some beliefs that are so deeply part of the illusion of the human game, so thoroughly agreed on by our (One) consciousness, that suggesting to an avatar that she can simply change that belief and poof the previously impossible into possibility will tend to just bounce right out of the conscious mind's bodyguard (the "protector" of the illusion) and no such belief will ever take root. (Not to say that I think it *should.*)

So -- do you want to make a positive difference? If you are interested in transforming the deepest of beliefs about the human game, I'd suggest you develop some skillful ways of getting past, or at least inspiring, the bouncer and the conscious mind that it protects.
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So if I ate nothing but battery fluid and I truly believed I would be healthy -- you think I will be?

Have you considered doing a 30 day trial?
In that case you would be doing nothing wrong. You followed your own believes. Who could blame you?

It might not be healthy at all, but if you really believe it and want to do it. Go ahead.

It might also be that you know its not healthy but you still feel like drinking/eating it. Maybe like a popsicle i dont know. Your welcome to do it. Its your choice.


I think what the OP's point is that people tend to wear them selves down by thinking they HAVE to do stuff. But thats all a lie folks You can do what ever you want. Amen :P
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I believe you are right but.......you still have to work within the mass-mind's consensus reality and the consensus is that battery fluid (I guess you mean the weak sulphuric acid found inside lead acid batteries) would be harmful to you.

Currently there is a trend toward calling meat unhealthy and dairy products unhealthy , this is due to the animal rights activists pushing these ideas to bolster their position. As long as the tipping point is not reached this will not become the consensus reality. resist control, RESIST by affirming your beliefs and living them. Eat meat, just be grateful for it and affirm that you are healthy. All foods are clean.
I already bitched someone out on another thread for saying that eating meat and dairy is unhealthy.... They have yet to respond. I can't stand these people telling other people that not only is it unhealthy for THEM but they are also hurting everyone on the planet. Everyone's body is different. Everyone's culture is different. Everyone's inherited genes have evolved differently die to what their ancestors ate. A good portion of the population can't accept dairy. Does that mean it's bad for everyone? NO! I love dairy and my body loves it. The mind is a powerful thing. The OP's theory will only work for very strong willed and minded people who are very self aware. Those type of people usually won't be eating crap food anyways tho, and they will burn plenty of energy through out their day and not just be sedentary like the rest of the populace. You believe the stuff you eat will hurt your body, THEN IT WILL.

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It might not be healthy at all, but if you really believe it and want to do it. Go ahead.
The question is, if I really believe it is healthy, will it be?

We've visited this question in other topics. Like, if I really believe a tow truck will be flying into my house later today with 100% certainty, does that mean it will? The consensus seems to be that you need to have total control of your thoughts, like Jesus or Buddha, to have total control of your reality.

Meh... that's my summary. I'm not hoping to get into this philosophical discussion again, hehe. I guess for now, us mere mortals will have to settle with eating things like fruits and vegetables to stay healthy.
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I guess for now, us mere mortals will have to settle with eating things like fruits and vegetables to stay healthy.
Well G'dammit, which is it? I was THIS close to going out and buying some Ben & Jerry's

Wasn't it Ben Cohen who had to have the quintuple heart Bypass surgery?....Clearly, he was not of the Buddha Mind LOL
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Well G'dammit, which is it? I was THIS close to going out and buying some Ben & Jerry's

Wasn't it Ben Cohen who had to have the quintuple heart Bypass surgery?....Clearly, he was not of the Buddha Mind LOL
It's not always about the food. Different people react differently to different food. Look at the people living to 100+ eating nothing but meat.
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Genetics play a huge part in our health but eating nothing but meat usually increases the odds of a human dying early.
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BUT it depends on the genes in some cases, but it's probably not the norm at all.... I'm one of those people that feel that with the majority of the people out there, there should be a healthy balance of EVERYTHING in our lives. Be it food, thoughts, people, time, experience.

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So if I ate nothing but battery fluid and I truly believed I would be healthy -- you think I will be?
Can I slip in a useless but extreme comparison to Hitler and the Holocaust too? It's a real crowd pleaser on forums.

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Genetics play a huge part in our health but eating nothing but meat usually increases the odds of a human dying early.
The genes are the physical manifestation of the belief system. That might shed light on some things. You (everyone in the thread) might ask yourself, how jacked-up are my beliefs about reality? Are they centered around a lot of denial? Logic? Cause and effect? Maybe there's just health and there's just food and I'm painfully creating a connection when there really is none?? What if I practiced seeing them as separate manifestations every time i take a bite food or think about nutrition? Hmmm.
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Cute darkworker. He said "whatever the hell you want" so yeah, what if I eat Hitler. Would I be healthy then?

I also invite others to ask themselves, "What if I'm making up aninaccurate belief system that can cause me to destroy my body?" But don't let me or anyone else step in the way. If you want to eat McDonalds every day, then sure... go ahead. See what happens.
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Can I slip in a useless but extreme comparison to Hitler and the Holocaust too? It's a real crowd pleaser on forums.
Let's not forget the "punch in the face" comparison, either!
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The genes are the physical manifestation of the belief system. That might shed light on some things. You (everyone in the thread) might ask yourself, how jacked-up are my beliefs about reality? Are they centered around a lot of denial? Logic? Cause and effect? Maybe there's just health and there's just food and I'm painfully creating a connection when there really is none?? What if I practiced seeing them as separate manifestations every time i take a bite food or think about nutrition? Hmmm.
Of course everything is related to a person's inner belief system! Dharma, you really think that you can completely overlook your internal belief system by just telling yourself to? Of course you cant and why bother going to all that work when you can just walk right into the source of the belief, and change it. Voila - food is no longer an issue!!



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That is to say, there are some beliefs that are so deeply part of the illusion of the human game, so thoroughly agreed on by our (One) consciousness, that suggesting to an avatar that she can simply change that belief and poof the previously impossible into possibility will tend to just bounce right out of the conscious mind's bodyguard (the "protector" of the illusion) and no such belief will ever take root. (Not to say that I think it *should.*)

So -- do you want to make a positive difference? If you are interested in transforming the deepest of beliefs about the human game, I'd suggest you develop some skillful ways of getting past, or at least inspiring, the bouncer and the conscious mind that it protects.

Actually Angela, it is quite easy to get past what you call the bouncer and conscious mind. You don't have to believe anything before doing it. But usually people would prefer to debate and intellectualize beliefs and life in general, rather than change their lives - that is until they reach a crisis point, and their need to resolve it becomes stronger than their fear of change and stepping out of the drama game they love so much.

But...knowing this takes away their right to sit and complain about being too fat, too thin, poor, feeling sad, having a difficult life, or even holding onto pain from a past relationship. As it is their choice to hold these emotions, and beliefs - and continually live them.
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Of course everything is related to a person's inner belief system! Dharma, you really think that you can completely overlook your internal belief system by just telling yourself to? Of course you cant and why bother going to all that work when you can just walk right into the source of the belief, and change it. Voila - food is no longer an issue!!
The belief system is a habit. It can be changed and reality can be given providence. In my experience it requires practice and/or a life-changing experience to bust down food/health beliefs.

I suppose one could find more ease in the process by simply changing the choice, but that is not the experience I've seen in myself or others around me.
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Interesting concept. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work in my case. I can eat whatever I want, but I pay for it in more ways than one.


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Interesting concept. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work in my case. I can eat whatever I want, but I pay for it in more ways than one.
Don't feel too bad. The same is true for everyone on this forum, I'd imagine.
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Don't feel too bad. The same is true for everyone on this forum, I'd imagine.
Except maybe the ones who only want to eat things that don't have more than one price.

Maybe that's the real trick to eating whatever you want -- just want whatever you eat! (easier if you don't reach for the battery fluid, and stick with the "common" belief about fruits and veggies, etc.) Some of the "universal" beliefs we have here in the human game work really, really well for me!
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Interesting concept. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work in my case. I can eat whatever I want, but I pay for it in more ways than one.


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because you believe what you are eating will make you pay for it in more ways than one? The stuff you " want" to eat, do you think it's going to keep you healthy and not cause you to gain wait?

I don't completely agree with the OP, but you also can't discredit the human mind. Your example does not mesh with what he is suggesting. Kinda like the people who don't know how to manifest what they want, and then say " well it doesn't work for me unfortunately". You guys can't just make fun of what he is saying, and completely leave all those other things on this forum alone.
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I don't completely agree with the OP, but you also can't discredit the human mind.
I agree. Our attitude about food plays a big part in how we feel and experience it. But, anyone who tries living on fast food, no matter what their attitude or belief, will likely find themselves with health conditions.

I like what you said earlier. Balance is important.
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But, anyone who tries living on fast food, no matter what their attitude or belief, will likely find themselves with health conditions.
It's all beliefs, man. One man's junk food is another man's fuel. Junk food lines your arteries and fuel is burned up completely. The choice is mine.
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It's all beliefs, man. One man's junk food is another man's fuel. Junk food lines your arteries and fuel is burned up completely. The choice is mine.
We can say "it's all beliefs" until the sun burns away, but that doesn't stop junk food from affecting you. Pete, if it's all beliefs, why do you allow yourself to suffer from back pain? Just give up that "pain" belief, man.

What I'm saying is that the idea of "eat whatever you want and you'll be healthy, if you believe you can," doesn't really work for most people. Sure, in theory, it could work... but in theory, you should be able to heal your back pain instantly. But me sitting here telling you "it's all beliefs" doesn't really change anything for you, does it? It's almost an insult, almost makes me look cruel to say "your back pain is your choice."
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If you realize that you create your physical reality through your own thoughts and desires , then you have learned the most important aspects of reality. This is what you have been setting out to do in your other lives, in your past existences.
The realization of these truths nullifies any so-called debts from other lives. When you realize this, and act upon it, there is no reason for you to come back here again unless you want to. Any of your difficulties in past lives were caused because you did not realize these basic truths.

So many of you wonder and search for your purpose -

You are not a bunch of idiots - nor born idiotic. Would you give an idiot a task he could not complete?

You must take a look - at any beliefs/thoughts that no longer serve you, outdated and old - it is your main purpose - no exceptions.


I dont know how long I will be visiting your wonderful forums here - the message I have just given, if understood - let it sink in for a while - can 'move you' to begin to atleast wonder what it is all about - to feel your own unique power - it is the gift of the 'gods' and it is in each of you.

Do not condemn anything - do not curse any food (idea) - For in cursing and condemning you curse yourself, and adulterate your very purpose. If you realize your hand in it - well, do not slap your own hand !

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It's almost an insult, almost makes me look cruel to say "your back pain is your choice."
I don't agree that it would be an insult or cruel for you to say that. I would say you're being helpful by reminding him.

Back pain is something that can be released, easily and effortlessly using the mind/body connection (see John Sarno's work and hypnosis).
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If you realize that you create your physical reality through your own thoughts and desires , then you have learned the most important aspects of reality. This is what you have been setting out to do in your other lives, in your past existences.
The realization of these truths nullifies any so-called debts from other lives. When you realize this, and act upon it, there is no reason for you to come back here again unless you want to. Any of your difficulties in past lives were caused because you did not realize these basic truths.
I am sorry for repeating myself. However I want the point above clear and off by itself. If you understand it, save it to read it often, apply it - Then mark this day in a world of time and space ! You have come alive in your knowing - You have remembered....

Best regards on your journey
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I agree. Our attitude about food plays a big part in how we feel and experience it. But, anyone who tries living on fast food, no matter what their attitude or belief, will likely find themselves with health conditions.

I like what you said earlier. Balance is important.
Yep. All to often I see people going in the extremes in one way or another, yet their minds are not strong enough to handle those extremes.
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but in theory, you should be able to heal your back pain instantly. But me sitting here telling you "it's all beliefs" doesn't really change anything for you, does it? It's almost an insult, almost makes me look cruel to say "your back pain is your choice."
It is my choice. And I experienced the delay in my healing. It doesn't hurt to hear that pain is my choice. It reinforces that, yes i do create everything in my experience. I'd rather realize that than say "there's nothing I can do."

From the point of victim, i am powerless to change anything. So why go there?
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Right, definitely don't play victim. That's not helpful, I agree.

When I suffer an injury, this is what I do: I acknowledge the injury, look at my options, and pick the most speedy path of recovery I can see. I never just sit there and do nothing. Never play the victim. That doesn't work well.

So if I have a broken arm, maybe I'll have a cast put on it and try not to move it much. This works. What wouldn't work, for me, is to tell myself "oh my arm isn't broken at all. Let's go play basketball!" This, for me, would be a form of denial. It would be a lie, just like if I were to tell you, "I'm a 35 year old African American."

It boils down to this: You're coming from the subjective "Our Beliefs Create Everything" perspective, and I'm coming from the Objective perspective. So naturally our views are incompatible.

Angela may be prompted now to share her recent burn story. We'll see if she does! Sneaky hidden text!
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There's another thread in this section about fasting for 30 days (drinking only water). Interesting collision of ideas.

I guess the best thing is moderation. I'm personally not in favour of very austere aproaches, such as no food at all, but neither do I like to eat sugar, junk food, or drink alcohol or caffeine.

A sensible, healthy diet would appear (to me) to be the best thing. This is my philosophy of 'effortless living.'
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