Doctor which lived 99 years and his view on nutrition

[Peter Toth]

Hi while searching information about healthy live style I found doctor Norman W. Walker who live for 99 years!

His view on nutrition(Wikipedia)

What do you think?

[Daffy Duck]

That's interesting. I saw an interview with a lady once who was over 105 years old or so, I can't remember her name. But anyway, they asked her what she ate, and she said almost every day she had bacon, eggs and ice cream.

That's some good genetics!

[TheHappyDogSpot]

I have two books by Dr. Walker -- one about longevity and one about juicing. Then I read (can't remember where) that his age was never even verified.

Funny, because in a similar story to Daffy Duck's, my maternal grandmother lived to be one hundred. She had a throat condition for most of her life that prevented her from eating anything that wasn't either blended (no, she did not consume green smoothies!) or "slippery". So, she lived the last 60 - 70 years of her life literally consuming tons of ice cream, milk shakes, eggs and sometimes fish. She NEVER had high cholesterol or ANY health problems and died peacefully right after my parents had visited her.

I try to be a total "health nut" about food, but I have to admit that it does make me wonder. My maternal grandfather lived to just shy of 90. He immigrated to Rhode Island from Siberia when he was 14, and he lived on foods like pastrami, corned beef and just about anything pickled! Again, never sick a day in his life. I'm sure he would have lived much longer but he had tumbled down some stairs a few months before he died and refused to see a doctor, but always complained about his side after that, so who knows what happened. He died peacefully in his sleep after driving, shopping and doing the laundry the day before!

Cheers,

Diana

[scorpio1980]

My greatgrandpa is in his mid 90's, and eats meat, and eggs everyday, has all his life. My roomates gramps is 98, and he eats nothing but meat. I know of quite a few older people that are 85-105, and none are veggie or vegan, all eat meat. As a matter of fact I am very interested in the habits of older people, and have read extensivly, and watched many videos on the topic, and the oldest people pretty much seem to all be meat eaters, and most down lots of lard. The oldest woman was interviewed at 116 years old she says her secret was that she enjoyed crispy bacon, and eggs everyday along with alcohol. Diet is only a very small part of what makes you healthy,most is mental attitude.

[TheHappyDogSpot]

Yes, I agree. What also seems interesting/scary to me is the notion that maybe regardless of how well people try to eat today, the world has just become so much more toxic than it was back then. Think cell phones, high tension wires, computers, TVs, the food, the water, etc.... Toxicity seems to be everywhere. Even when older folks grew up eating meat and drinking/eating dairy, it wasn't filled with antibiotics and growth hormones. I'm vegetarian for ethical reasons and am fascinated/dabble in the raw food diet, but I think if we try to eat the least amount of toxic, processed, chemical-laden food we can, we've got a good start. I guess the rest of the toxicity out there is beyond our control and we have to hope for the best. I also think you're right about the mental attitude.

Cheers,

Diana

[ginkgo]

So from what people are saying, it did not matter that he lived until 99. It would only matter if a study was done on hundreds of people. It also means nothing if one person has a terrible lifestyle and lives until a very old age.

The above stories are anecdotal evidence that Wikipedia defines as "Evidence, which may itself be true and verifiable, used to deduce a conclusion which does not follow from it, usually by generalizing from an insufficient amount of evidence. For example "my grandfather smoked like a chimney and died healthy in a car crash at the age of 99" does not disprove the proposition that "smoking markedly increases the probability of cancer and heart disease at a relatively early age". In this case, the evidence may itself be true, but does not warrant the conclusion."

I read one of his books and I remember the things that stuck out. He did enemas on about 40,000 people. He used carrots and carrot juice to help people's colons. He had one guy, but only one out of thousands, that he had on carrot juice and nothing else for a year.

He went to visit a couple in the country. The husband was red all over, had a high fever and was in bad pain all over. Note that these are not common occurrences but the rare ones. He asked the wife when his last bowel movement was. She said around 20 days ago.

He asked if she tried giving him an enema. She did not know what that was. Enemas are given to people in hospitals everyday. He gave him an enema and right after that the redness was gone, the fever was gone and he had no pain.

The only reason that they say that people need more fiber is because they do not get enough. Fiber is in plant foods but not animal foods. I agree with him but that means nothing. Here is a fact. The #1 cancer is colon cancer.

Those colonoscopies also find other problems than cancer, like hemorrhoids, IBS and other things. People also get parasites in there like long worms. But it seems that recent information about the beliefs of guys like this do not match what they said in their books so the truth is being bent.

When someone says that someone dead believes something, they should give a quote from their books to prove it. Someone can say that Jesus hated blacks, but it means nothing without an exact quote. Right?

[Daffy Duck]

I think one reason we hear about more meat eaters living past 100 than vegans is because, well, there aren't nearly as many vegans out there as meat eaters. So for right now, since the vast majority eat meat, it's purely a numbers game that more meat eaters will live past 100.

[Peter Toth]

It's funny to hear all those stories about people who eat terribly but have lived long hh .

If he really lived that long it doesn't prove anything about his methods. More interesting would be to see results of his patients.