Colon Cleansing.

[ProjectX]

Has anyone tried this. There is a product called Colonix by a company Dr Natura which claims to clean the colon. I am actually very interested to try it out. It is 88 dollars for a one month supply.
I've been wondering could it very well be that a lot of life's health problems such as chronic fatigue and allergies have been caused by an unclean colon?

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[MightySunTzu]

Originally Posted by ProjectX

Has anyone tried this. There is a product called Colonix by a company Dr Natura which claims to clean the colon. I am actually very interested to try it out. It is 88 dollars for a one month supply.
I've been wondering could it very well be that a lot of life's health problems such as chronic fatigue and allergies have been caused by an unclean colon?

Hi ProjectX,

If you colon is impacted with fecal matter, i do believe a product such as this could help. Questions such as how old are you, what has your diet been like over the years, what is your weight status... would help determine the level of likelihood your colon could have some unwanted materials therein. A highly obese person is nearly a shoe in... and could actually potentially lose several pounds cleaning out the colon. Some say as well that a toxic colon is the root of most illness. I personally would extend that to toxemia within the entire body... but the colon is likely the most toxic of all our organs.

[ProjectX]

Originally Posted by MightySunTzu

Hi ProjectX,

If you colon is impacted with fecal matter, i do believe a product such as this could help. Questions such as how old are you, what has your diet been like over the years, what is your weight status... would help determine the level of likelihood your colon could have some unwanted materials therein. A highly obese person is nearly a shoe in... and could actually potentially lose several pounds cleaning out the colon. Some say as well that a toxic colon is the root of most illness. I personally would extend that to toxemia within the entire body... but the colon is likely the most toxic of all our organs.

Hey SunTzu. I'm only 22 years old. I'm not overweight; 5'9 and 180lbs. You think it would be right for me?

[Daffy Duck]

Here's one perspective on colon cleansing: colon cleansing scam

You could try it and tell us your results.

But personally, I think the answer to your health issues would be fixed if you exercised and ate better foods. Don't look for a miracle pill or solution...

[ginkgo]

There is a much more effective colon cleansing that costs only $10 for unlimited cleansings. Also it is not a scam but a medical procedure used in hospitals everyday. Some can lose up to 15 pounds in less than an hour with Enemas.

[MightySunTzu]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

There is a much more effective colon cleansing that costs only $10 for unlimited cleansings. Also it is not a scam but a medical procedure used in hospitals everyday. Some can lose up to 15 pounds in less than an hour with Enemas.

A good point ginkgo. I meant to mention earlier that the herb/psyllium product combined with enemas could provide the best results of all. Seems anything holistic is accused of being a scam at one point or another. In a world where western practitioners much prefer to perform surgeries, sometimes removing organs and otherwise throwing drugs at a problem that is so often rooted in an overly toxified body... detoxing oneself to allow the body to heal itself is amazingly slow in gaining acceptance.

[ginkgo]

Did you know that Dr Shelton gave enemas to all of his first 6,000 fasting patients? Then he stopped using them and the rest of his 30,000+ did not get them. The colon takes a vacation during a fast and then when it starts working again, it works much better.

[MightySunTzu]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

Did you know that Dr Shelton gave enemas to all of his first 6,000 fasting patients? Then he stopped using them and the rest of his 30,000+ did not get them. The colon takes a vacation during a fast and then when it starts working again, it works much better.

Indeed so. Dr. Shelton became convinced that enemas should not be used in fasts. "Mind your own business and let the bowels mind theirs" is how he felt. He believed that "reabsorption of toxins from the colon" is a myth. But it is a controversial subject. Others today believe it is not at all mythical. Whether one uses enemas during a fast or not, the colon emerges with superior functionality. As well, a faster emerges with a greatly enhanced ability to assimilate nutrients. In any case, some fasting clinics today use enemas and others do not.

Me? Honestly i don't know, but whether or not we reabsorb toxins from the colon is not the only issue when it comes to determining whether enemas should be used. A healthy colon is likely to contain about 1-3 pounds of normal fecal matter in transit which has yet to exit. If a person loses 15 pounds in a single colon cleansing session, what does this tell us? This is important so i will say it again. If a person loses 15 pounds in a single colon cleansing session and only had 1-3 pounds of normal fecal matter in the colon, what does this tell us? Particularly outside of a fast, the colonix and enemas for cleaning up a clogged colon with impacted fecal matter lining the walls is not something i believe Dr. Shelton would have objected to.

[jeff3]

I was an X-ray tech for 17 years and from what I remember seeing on barium exams there is no way someone could have residual fecal matter that does not transit out on some schedule. It may not be a regular schedule, but it all moves. The only possible exception would in the case of diverticular disease where small (anywhere from BB sized to raisin sized) pouches may develop in the sigmoid portion of the colon and retain feces, no way it would be "pounds" of matter and even this moves, albeit slower. . Increasing the intralumenal pressure of the colon with a 'cleanse' could actually be disastrous if you rupture a diverticulae.

I hate to be the one to say it but if all the colon cleanse does is remove feces, it is a scam. If it actually causes some other benefit physiologically that may be worthwhile but I am unaware what that may be. I have been seeing TV adds selling products for this lately and I always feel the adds misuse terminology and exaggerate claims in an effort to "hard sell" by creating a sense of fear.

If you doubt how long it actually takes for food to transit just eat a can of corn at noon some day and my guess is you will "see" it again in less than 48 hours. There is nothing hiding in your colon, with the possible exception of inserted foreign objects (I've seen it all and heard the excuses).

[MightySunTzu]

Originally Posted by jeff3

If you doubt how long it actually takes for food to transit just eat a can of corn at noon some day and my guess is you will "see" it again in less than 48 hours. There is nothing hiding in your colon, with the possible exception of inserted foreign objects (I've seen it all and heard the excuses).

Impacted fecal matter along the colon walls would not disallow the corn from passing through. The passage would be somewhat narrowed, but not completely blocked.

[Manomanman]

$88 is ripoff. I bought 2 bottles of pills for like $20, and I only used them like 2 or 3 times.

I would recommend that you try it and see if it works. Most of the pills contain high amounts of some kind of fiber, which is usually lacking from your diet.

You WILL see benefits if you feel stiffness, soreness, constipation, and have generally irritable bowels. Regardless of what the "debunkers" are saying about impacted fecal matter, you can build up a lot of sludgy nasty junk in your guts that passes very slowly and just gets clogged up in there.

Example: When you're taking one of those sticky nasty dumps, use some kind of instrument to see how much is actually left inside of your colon. There's probably a lot. That sludge stays around too long for your own good.

When I started taking pills, I did it for 1.5 weeks, and I noticed some very strong benefits: 1) saliva wasn't "sewagy", 2) stomach wasn't inflamed/sore/stiff, 3) more energy, more vitality, more vibrance/sparkle in my step, 4) appetite was stronger, food tasted better, craved healthier foods.

When I first started passing bowels from the effect of the pills (about 3 days into the cleanse), a lot of junky nasty black stuff came out the first few times. It was more like dry motor oil sand than bowels. I had that for 2 bowel movements, then just normal smooshy bowels for the rest of the week that I was on the pills.

Perfect diet + exercise will circumvent these problems. Colon cleanse is a good way to jump-start a healthier lifestyle, because you HAVE TO FEEL GOOD in order to want to exercise. Think of colon cleansing as a "sneak preview" of what it's like to be healthier.

I would not recommend relying on it long-term.

[jeff3]

Originally Posted by MightySunTzu

Impacted fecal matter along the colon walls would not disallow the corn from passing through. The passage would be somewhat narrowed, but not completely blocked.

The large intestine works by peristalsis, meaning it squeezes in a milking action to move roughage through the colon. It is either blocked or not blocked. Only something like a tumor or other mechanical obstruction could cause a partial blockage. Stuff does not just "sit in your colon" if it is working at all. It is not like a drain pipe in your house that does narrow over time, the difference is that the colon is flexible and is constantly moving in a normal healthy person. Narcotics stop this movement and that is what causes them to constipate people who take them to much.I'm not totally dissing the theory of a cleanse being helpful, they should just stop with the junk science and scare tactics.

I have watched the mechanical action of the large and small bowel literally hundreds of time on a fluoroscope and can tell you with certainty that nothing can "hide" in there. The only exceptions are the blind pockets I mentioned in the other post plus the appendix.

[ProjectX]

Originally Posted by Manomanman

$88 is ripoff. I bought 2 bottles of pills for like $20, and I only used them like 2 or 3 times.

I would recommend that you try it and see if it works. Most of the pills contain high amounts of some kind of fiber, which is usually lacking from your diet.

You WILL see benefits if you feel stiffness, soreness, constipation, and have generally irritable bowels. Regardless of what the "debunkers" are saying about impacted fecal matter, you can build up a lot of sludgy nasty junk in your guts that passes very slowly and just gets clogged up in there.

Example: When you're taking one of those sticky nasty dumps, use some kind of instrument to see how much is actually left inside of your colon. There's probably a lot. That sludge stays around too long for your own good.

When I started taking pills, I did it for 1.5 weeks, and I noticed some very strong benefits: 1) saliva wasn't "sewagy", 2) stomach wasn't inflamed/sore/stiff, 3) more energy, more vitality, more vibrance/sparkle in my step, 4) appetite was stronger, food tasted better, craved healthier foods.

When I first started passing bowels from the effect of the pills (about 3 days into the cleanse), a lot of junky nasty black stuff came out the first few times. It was more like dry motor oil sand than bowels. I had that for 2 bowel movements, then just normal smooshy bowels for the rest of the week that I was on the pills.

Perfect diet + exercise will circumvent these problems. Colon cleanse is a good way to jump-start a healthier lifestyle, because you HAVE TO FEEL GOOD in order to want to exercise. Think of colon cleansing as a "sneak preview" of what it's like to be healthier.

I would not recommend relying on it long-term.

I actually did bought colon cleanser pills from GNC a few months ago. I went to the toilet many times because of it, but I don't it really did much afterwards.

[ginkgo]

Originally Posted by MightySunTzu

Indeed so. Dr. Shelton became convinced that enemas should not be used in fasts. "Mind your own business and let the bowels mind theirs" is how he felt. He believed that "reabsorption of toxins from the colon" is a myth. But it is a controversial subject. Others today believe it is not at all mythical. Whether one uses enemas during a fast or not, the colon emerges with superior functionality. As well, a faster emerges with a greatly enhanced ability to assimilate nutrients. In any case, some fasting clinics today use enemas and others do not.

Me? Honestly i don't know, but whether or not we reabsorb toxins from the colon is not the only issue when it comes to determining whether enemas should be used. A healthy colon is likely to contain about 1-3 pounds of normal fecal matter in transit which has yet to exit. If a person loses 15 pounds in a single colon cleansing session, what does this tell us? This is important so i will say it again. If a person loses 15 pounds in a single colon cleansing session and only had 1-3 pounds of normal fecal matter in the colon, what does this tell us? Particularly outside of a fast, the colonix and enemas for cleaning up a clogged colon with impacted fecal matter lining the walls is not something i believe Dr. Shelton would have objected to.

The colon is not supposed to allow reabsorption of toxins and a normal bowel does not. But there is this disease (IBS) and holes form in the bowel and toxins leak out. So it is not normal for your organs to liquefy and they do not. But there is a good chance that they will if you have the disease ebola virus.