30-Day Sexual Energy Trial #2 (explicit)

[Some Random Loser]

My 30 Day Sex-Energy Trial (Explicit) was in some ways a resounding success. The trial completely altered my relationship to masturbation and orgasms, and seriously disrupted the status quo of my stagnant life. However, due to some serious failures, some of which may have been necessary for experimental purposes, I'm going to be reiterating this trial.

During the first run, while I did not ejaculate at all for 30 days, I did tie up and drain a lot of energy with either masturbation, or fantasizing and porn watching.

This time around, I'm going to test the purest form of saving sexual energy: no indulgence in masturbation, fantasy, ejaculation, orgasm, or any form of sexual stimulation whatsoever.

I still haven't written up my detailed postmortem report for my first sexual energy trial. This report will probably be written after I've started this re-trial, and after starting my 30-Day Raw Vegan + Pseudo-Fasting Trial. I'll be sure to provide links to it in all my trial threads for your convenience.

I'll be conducting this re-trial and the 30-Day Raw Vegan + Pseudo-Fasting Trial at the same time. One thing I have learned for sure is that without an abundance of sexual energy at my disposal, I do not have the strength, will or inclination to perform any sustained action that is non-habitual.

It only takes a few days to build up a good level of will from sexual energy, but this time, I want to learn what it's like to have a full month of pure sexual energy buildup.

I'm going to be taking it easy for a few days until I begin my new trials. Until then... feel free to interface with me in this thread =P

[Monique7nuns]

Originally Posted by Some Random Loser

This time around, I'm going to test the purest form of saving sexual energy: no indulgence in masturbation, fantasy, ejaculation, orgasm, or any form of sexual stimulation whatsoever.

Have you done research on how to go about this from other people who have achieved it? Do you think as a man, seeking advice from other celibate men will yield creditable resources?

[Some Random Loser]

Originally Posted by Monique7nuns

Have you done research on how to go about this from other people who have achieved it?

No. Now that you mention it, however, I feel like looking up some info on it, mainly for shits and giggles. I imagine I'll find plenty of info about the benefits of celibacy. It would probably be motivating.

Originally Posted by Monique7nuns

Do you think as a man, seeking advice from other celibate men will yield creditable resources?

It's definately possible, but this seems to be a subject that is very hard to get good information on. Even those who are damn good at it seem to be very moralistic or repetetive with idealist mantras. Another problem is there are different energy types of humans, as well as people with varying levels of being "blessed" with certain levels of sexual charge.

Purely saving sexual energy may be a completely different ballgame for someone who's sexually blessed, and someone who's what is called a "bored ****" (someone born with little sexual energy).

Depending on our energy characteristics, the whole sex game can be completely different, and that's not something I know the details of. There's really no information available on this.

Ultimately the best information will be that I experientally glean, and that information may be useless for most people. If I was capable of seeing energy directly instead of interpreting it, I could probably become enlightened on the phenomenon of sexual energy and other things. Since I can't, all I am able to do now is mess around in physical reality with 40 pieces of a 3 million piece puzzle, without a box to show me what the puzzle is supposed to look like.

[rocketman]

im looking forward to the post-trial writeup from you first run at this. i'm really interested in trying something similar but don't know what to expect yet and am not sure if this will be beneficial.

[rocketman]

i'm confused.

you say you didn't ejaculate but you did masturbate? how does that work? you were just masturbating without getting off? - for what reason? just to test yourself?

[Some Random Loser]

Originally Posted by rocketman

you say you didn't ejaculate but you did masturbate? how does that work? you were just masturbating without getting off? - for what reason? just to test yourself?

Yes I masturbated without getting off. I wanted to see what the effect of doing this would be. Would I be able to retain my sexual energy levels doing this or not?

At first the result seemed to be that my energy level would go down real low temporarily, but would be fully recovered after a day or two, without actual loss of energy.

However, I am beginning to believe that there actually is major energy loss with masturbation even without getting off.

That's why I want to re-do this whole trial with no sexual stimulation whatsoever and compare results.

[Pequod]

Originally Posted by Some Random Loser

Purely saving sexual energy may be a completely different ballgame for someone who's sexually blessed, and someone .... born with little sexual energy.

Interesting point. I find that the effects of saving sexual energy are very significant, but other guys in your first 30-day trial thread report no real difference. This could be an explanation.

I think I have quite a lot of sexual energy and I have wasted a lot of it for over 2 decades. So there is a lot of energy that is now being rechanneled. Maybe the other guys have less sexual energy and/or masturbated less, so the effect is less dramatic.

[TheColonel]

For me, celibacy makes me blase'....

I could never understand the concept of saving up my sex drive in some kind of 'energetic escrow' to be spent at some future date.

During periods that I can't release, my mind and body just kind of turn down the volume and clarity of life in general.

Good luck though

[Some Random Loser]

Originally Posted by Pequod

Interesting point. I find that the effects of saving sexual energy are very significant, but other guys in your first 30-day trial thread report no real difference. This could be an explanation.

I think I have quite a lot of sexual energy and I have wasted a lot of it for over 2 decades. So there is a lot of energy that is now being rechanneled. Maybe the other guys have less sexual energy and/or masturbated less, so the effect is less dramatic.

I'd be careful about interpretitating your results (sounds better than interpreting). These things are in the realm of the energy seers. And I don't mean seeing auras. I'm talking whole hog energy seeing. Maybe you should find out if your parent's sex that conceived you was charged or not. Did your mother orgasm? Was it full of desperate passion? Or was it rather dull and routinary, bored sex? That helps figure it out.

There are perhaps other clues but I really don't know enough myself to interpret such. As long as we're playing with the puzzle pieces of physical reality, it's not so much seeing and knowing as it is guessing and plodding along.

Also one must keep in mind that depending on one's energy type and characteristics, one's sexual behavior may have different properties, whether or not they are highly sexually charged or not. There are just way too many factors to try to guess it out. In case you haven't been reading what I've been saying in my last thread, the type of energy **** I'm talking about here is in realms that transcend the physical.

Finally we humans overall are getting weaker generation by generation. In the apt. complex where I live, there are parents and children walking around everywhere. It's quite disturbing. All the parents are overweight, plodding along like they're half-dead to their cars and back. They don't even know how to walk anymore, dragging their feet like they can barely move on, dragging their children along to suffer the same fate as they did.

[Some Random Loser]

Originally Posted by TheColonel

For me, celibacy makes me blase'....

Male or female? Celibacy from masturbation or from sex? How long?

Originally Posted by TheColonel

I could never understand the concept of saving up my sex drive in some kind of 'energetic escrow' to be spent at some future date.

Statistically speaking, most people who read or participate in this thread, perhaps a vast majority, do not and likely will not ever grasp such a thing. Who can blame them? Not only is it 100% not socially sanctioned, but it's "lunacy." Sometimes you gotta temporarily believe something to see it, then once you see it, you can see it to believe it =P

Originally Posted by TheColonel

During periods that I can't release, my mind and body just kind of turn down the volume and clarity of life in general.

Can't release, as in, no sex to have? Or, no opportunity to masturbate?

I've found something interesting. Sometimes raising energy leads to further energy saving, which requires that energy is not deployed in physical/mental activity. It's a lot like detox from a fasting or diet improvement. The body's energies get turned inward to clean house, and you feel like crap for a while. A lot of sleep occurs during this time. The body gets a nice energy charge from slipping out of normal reality in dreams, which are enhanced by higher sexual energy levels.

I would say it's a sign your body wants to get back a lot of lost energy, so that afterward you live at a higher energy level. That's just my theory though. Science will never verify what I say, because science is locked down in "the framework."

Originally Posted by TheColonel

Good luck though

Thank you sir, or madame ^_^

[Pequod]

@SRL: I'll spare my parents questions about my conception. I'm not sure they would survive

Your views seem to be influenced by Shamanism and Carlos Castaneda, right? I remember Don Juan telling one of the novices:"Your pecker is only for peeing", while Don Juan himself was having a harem. It is an interesting point of view.

Actually I don't think that there is a separate energy for sex, but there seem to be different energies. For example food has a certain energy that can be transmuted in physial energy and that can be transmuted in mental energy, and that can be transmuted in even finer energy etc. I have no proof for this of course.

One way or another, it is a fact that orgasms and/or ejaulation have their effects on body and mind, and those effects are very different between people. In the other thread many people told about the effects that orgasms have on them, and the differences are big, even amongst men.

Originally Posted by Some Random Loser

In case you haven't been reading what I've been saying in my last thread, the type of energy **** I'm talking about here is in realms that transcend the physical.

I read your posts over there, but you still lose me here. What do you define as sexual energy?

[Some Random Loser]

Sexual energy is energy which can be discharged through sexual stimulation and orgasm. When this energy is not discharged in such a way, it can be put to other uses.

Thought I'd blow it up since it's pretty key =P

[rocketman]

how long until the complete writeup is out?

[Some Random Loser]

Probably still be a few days. Deadline is 11:59pm this Friday, central time, U.S.

[rocketman]

thanks, will be looking forward to it.

sorry, if you've already answered these questions but:

1. do you recommend this?
2. did you get the increase in energy you were seeking?
3. if so, was it significant?

thanks.

[Some Random Loser]

1. Recommend what exactly?

2. I got some of the increase of energy I was seeking, perhaps not to a level I was hoping for. On the other hand, some of that energy may have gone toward bodily healing or some other unknown channel that I cannot fathom. However, thanks to the masturbation and other sexual indulgence, I believe I may have missed out on a substantial chunk of energy. Therefore I am testing again to seek a greater energy gain and see what happens this time.

3. The energy increase was both significant, substantial, and dramatic. It has altered my day to day life irreperably. Ultimately, the energy increase I had was so worth it for me, that I see masturbation as an obsolete practice, and coming from me that means something!!!!! LoL

[rocketman]

Originally Posted by Some Random Loser

1. Recommend what exactly?

Regular abstinence from masturbation. I desperately want to try but I am so addicted that I fear it is hopeless.

Originally Posted by Some Random Loser

3. The energy increase was both significant, substantial, and dramatic. It has altered my day to day life irreperably. Ultimately, the energy increase I had was so worth it for me, that I see masturbation as an obsolete practice, and coming from me that means something!!!!! LoL

Oh wow, be sure to expound on this in the writeup - very interesting and motivating. In what sense do you mean it has altered your life irreparably - emotional or physical?

I feel a sense of complete worthlessness from masturbation and upon climaxing, literally feel some sort of dimming in my brain as if a part of me died. I don't think sex has the same affect as I have read that some form of energy is passed between the partners as a compensation.

[Some Random Loser]

Originally Posted by rocketman

Regular abstinence from masturbation.

Yes, I highly recommend it! I also recommend doing the requisite exploration so that it's no longer a question. However, perhaps you may find, after enough testing, that it is not something you wish to abstain from. Nonetheless, I recommend exploring it.

Originally Posted by rocketman

I desperately want to try but I am so addicted that I fear it is hopeless.

^_^ I know the feeling. How many years have you been doing it? Have you reached a point where it's kind of lost its novelty?

Originally Posted by rocketman

Oh wow, be sure to expound on this in the writeup - very interesting and motivating. In what sense do you mean it has altered your life irreparably - emotional or physical?

I shall write it up, and it has altered my life in all ways! Now, if you're looking for some magical story of "fortune, fame, and pu$$y" or something like that, sorry. Outwardly I may appear the same, but I feel completely different.

Originally Posted by rocketman

I feel a sense of complete worthlessness from masturbation

LOL

Originally Posted by rocketman

and upon climaxing, literally feel some sort of dimming in my brain as if a part of me died.

It's no coincidence orgasm is called "the little death." I often feel the same thing, including if I masturbate heavily without orgasm, it kind of creeps up gradually in that case.

Originally Posted by rocketman

I don't think sex has the same affect as I have read that some form of energy is passed between the partners as a compensation.

Indeed. Sex involves a certain mixing of energies. While sex, at best, is "mutually beneficial vampirism" I would say that if you're going to spend your energy, might as well get some return on your investment, i.e. pu$$y instead of paper towels. LoL

If you're going to damage your will with orgasm... might as well get some delicious female energy eh? =P

[rocketman]

Originally Posted by Some Random Loser

Indeed. Sex involves a certain mixing of energies. While sex, at best, is "mutually beneficial vampirism" I would say that if you're going to spend your energy, might as well get some return on your investment, i.e. pu$$y instead of paper towels. LoL

If you're going to damage your will with orgasm... might as well get some delicious female energy eh? =P

When I first began suspecting a correlation between masturbation and energy levels, the question I always came back to was then why doesn't sex have the same effect? I figured it was an identical process before I became aware of the energy swapping aspect of sex.

[Some Random Loser]

Make no mistake. The orgasm will damage regardless of sex or masturbation. The only difference is, with sex there's an energy reward, so it feels better. So it's more "worth it" and more "fun" =P

[Some Random Loser]

The trial will begin at midnight, 4/16/2009, central standard time, uSa. That's about 21.5 hours from now! Same for my other trial

4/16 will be Day 1

[David Cain]

Very excited to hear your results.

There are a lot of claims about the effects of 'restraint' but not too many documented tests.

I admire your adventurous spirit.

[Some Random Loser]

Start Trial

The clock has struck midnight an hour ago, and so begins Day 1.

[rocketman]

must...have...the writeup...!!

[Some Random Loser]

Day 1

I'll elaborate more on this later, because I'm damn tired from fasting, but between the end of my first sexual energy trial and the beginning of this one I ejaculated several times for testing purposes. I even popped one off 2 hours prior to the beginning of this trial.

I thus started this trial in the same manner as its first iteration: relatively drained sexually.

It's probably mostly the fasting, but as soon as I woke up today after 10 hours of sleep I was quite lethargic physically and mentally. I still am now. I've felt like lying down almost this whole time, but my mind has been too restless to do so for any extended period of time.

Being the first day, saving sexual energy was no challenge. Interestingly enough, however, when I was going in and out of sleep at around 2:30am, I did have a sexual dream. It wasn't erotic at all, but I figured it could have gotten there. I started hearing music and saw a girl dancing in a sexual manner. Though not erotic for me, it certainly was not what I would consider a non-sexual dream. Since I was somewhat awake, I put a stop to it immediately.

Later, during my 10 hour sleep session, I had another sexual dream, which again was not erotic. Instead it dealt with sexual jealosy and wanting this girl real bad (it had to do with some memories of mine I've been going over), but there was nothing erotic about it.

Neither of these dreams were sexually stimulating (arousing) in the slightest.

I'm actually very surprised that I've been dreaming as much as I have considering I've ejaculated 8 times in the 4 day space between trials (twice per day).

See you all in 24 hours... (i got a report for yall due in slightly less than that)

[TheEnthusiast]

interesting

[Christian223]

Hi, regarding sexual energy i have some experience with it that I can share with you. If you search the forums you can find some other threads about masturbation and energy that will help you.

The thing i learned is that there is some kind of "energy" related to sexuality, and this energy can be built and boosted, not necesarily by avoiding masturbation. If you do it right you get very good positive effects, you feel more energized, you feel more masculine, you feel happier as if in you where in love, relaxed, etc.

I'm no expert in this by the way, but this is how you do to build sexual energy: the principle is that you can "move" this energy through your body, it's easy to notice where it is located because of how it feels in your body (it may be described as a "tickling" sensation), take a deep breath and when you breath in you have to move this energy from the bottom of your spine (or the inner base of your stomach) towards you chest, and then to the top of your head, and then to the rest of your body, all this while you breath in and stimulate your organ (think of it as if it where a battery that works with friction, fill this battery with energy, and then distribute the energy through the body). Do not approach orgasm and ejaculation, if you feel you are close to it, stop for a few seconds until you feel safe to continue without reaching closer to orgasm and ejaculation.
You can keep doing this for as long as you want, just fight the urge to orgasm.
Tip: better to concentrate on the shaft, with lubricant, as it is by far the more sensitive part of your organ.

If you keep doing this for 20 minutes, more or less, and ejaculate, those negative feelings you mention will not have the same effect, if you keep doing it for longer, you won't have any negative effect at all, if you don't ejaculate at all, you keep and boost your sexual energy with all the positive effects I mentioned, you just have to fight the urge to ejaculate.

I hope this helps you.

[Some Random Loser]

Posted up my postmortem report for my first sexual energy trial.

It's split into 3 posts.

[Some Random Loser]

Originally Posted by Christian223

Hi, regarding sexual energy i have some experience with it that I can share with you. If you search the forums you can find some other threads about masturbation and energy that will help you.

The thing i learned is that there is some kind of "energy" related to sexuality, and this energy can be built and boosted, not necesarily by avoiding masturbation. If you do it right you get very good positive effects, you feel more energized, you feel more masculine, you feel happier as if in you where in love, relaxed, etc.

I'm no expert in this by the way, but this is how you do to build sexual energy: the principle is that you can "move" this energy through your body, it's easy to notice where it is located because of how it feels in your body (it may be described as a "tickling" sensation), take a deep breath and when you breath in you have to move this energy from the bottom of your spine (or the inner base of your stomach) towards you chest, and then to the top of your head, and then to the rest of your body, all this while you breath in and stimulate your organ (think of it as if it where a battery that works with friction, fill this battery with energy, and then distribute the energy through the body). Do not approach orgasm and ejaculation, if you feel you are close to it, stop for a few seconds until you feel safe to continue without reaching closer to orgasm and ejaculation.
You can keep doing this for as long as you want, just fight the urge to orgasm.
Tip: better to concentrate on the shaft, with lubricant, as it is by far the more sensitive part of your organ.

If you keep doing this for 20 minutes, more or less, and ejaculate, those negative feelings you mention will not have the same effect, if you keep doing it for longer, you won't have any negative effect at all, if you don't ejaculate at all, you keep and boost your sexual energy with all the positive effects I mentioned, you just have to fight the urge to ejaculate.

I hope this helps you.

It only helps me to see how masturbatory we people are.

When I first indulged in masturbation in my first sexual energy trial I actually felt like I was somehow moving into a certain type of attentional fixation which involved being more connected with people and what they do, especially if I used the same dick-rubbing technique as you described, and didn't press against the orgasmic wall.

Soon, however, I found myself feeling drained as ****. I realized that what I was doing, when I felt like I was somehow more "connected" was that I was actually moving down the energy ladder. It was a sham connection.

My ability to connect with people was actually enhanced by total abstinence from masturbation.

As I found out in my first sex-energy trial, playing with my wanger and "channelling sexual energy" elsewhere is like hitting the gas and brake at the same time. Sexual energy channelling happens 24/7. Playing with your pee pee = channelling it to your pee pee. Do other things, and it channels it to other things. I've found that such "active channeling techniques" during arousal are more of a way to maintain arousal levels without orgasming. If these techniques are used heavily enough while masturbating, the dick will simply go soft. But then what's the point of yanking it in the first place?

I've been reading some writings by people saying the best thing to do is maintain sexual arousal while using it to "enjoy life" instead of orgasm constantly. I find such a practice to be energy lowering and ultimately weakening. There needs not be any "sexual arousal" for sexual energy to channel into other activities and bolster them. I'm very familiar with the act of doing something in the hopes of "success" with the opposite sex. I'm also familiar with doing something by being "inspired by the beauty of the opposite sex."

It's always had a weakening effect for me.

[Some Random Loser]

Day 2

Nothing new to report here. I'm actually finding myself uninterested in this whole sexual energy forum participation right now. There's not really much new for me to say. Saving energy for this next 30 days is more a matter of course. Typing out all this stuff feels like more of a burden than anything.

What I'm REALLY interested in is my new trial! which i'll be typing up an update for soon.

I'm 48 hours into my current water fast. No interest in anything sexual whatsoever. This fast is really kicking my ass ^_^

If I dissipated any sexual energy now, I'm convinced that I'd not only break the fast, but stuff myself. I might even break my raw vegan psuedo-fast trial completely if I dissipated what little energy I have right now.

That food related trial is by far 100 times more difficult than this one probably ever will be. But maybe after a couple weeks of pure sexual "continence" I will disagree?

I feel like the sexual energy saving from this trial is a main pillar of support for my food related trial. Without it, I'd probably just go "♥♥♥♥♥ this trial, ♥♥♥♥♥ this forum, ♥♥♥♥♥ everyone here, it's time to EAT SOME TASTY ♥♥♥♥."