|02-06-2007, 06:58 PM||#241 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: ~Milwaukee, WI - USA
Hello all, this is actually a question, posted in the form of a log. For purposes of brevity, I have written as condensed a poly-log as possible.
OK, here's a rough breakdown of my situation...
Trial 2 - Days 0-7 (December 16th-23rd, 2006)
This was my second attempt, and first of real seriousness, which lasted just over seven days. The most curious thing, though, is that all four of my oversleeps during this failed attempt were almost all ~90 minutes each (one full normal sleep schedule). Even after I decided to give up, I woke up 90 minutes later and had to stay awake in bed for a while before I could fall back asleep again and really "monophase" out.
After this and the non-favorable results of 13 days of futility during my first attempt (August 15th-27th, 2006), I decided to employ a zero tolerance policy towards oversleeps. Basically, if I oversleep, it's one and done. I give up right there and save myself the trouble of working with a setback that leads to weird adaptations (like involuntary experiencing one monophasic sleep cycle every 30-40 hours that effectively resulted in a total discontinuance of REM polynaps).
Current Trial - Days 0-4
Everything is going fine, I'm making all my naps, and I even had a REM nap where I woke up without alarm with dream recollection in hand on Day 1!
Then, 58 hours in, I find myself in my bed, the victim of an unscheduled nap. It lasted for only an hour or two and I woke with no recollection of any dreams, though that doesn't preclude the possibility that I had one.
At this point I decided that I was better off trying to continue than abandoning ship and wasting the previous 60 hours. After all, this wasn't even an oversleep, just an error in judgment that allowed the situation to occur.
Aside from the unscheduled oversleep, things are going exceedingly well. I feel perfectly fine most of the time and can even do heavy mental things, like playing six tables of poker simultaneously, without a hitch.
Then, just a little while ago. A deep tiredness set in while I was watching a movie, so I decided to take a nap just two hours after my last one (the first time I've done it all this trial). I awoke from that nap still tired, wrapped myself in a blanket, and sat down in my comp chair. This is something I typically do after most NREM naps as I am real sensitive to cold when trying to adapt. However, even with over 100 polynaps to my name, I've never ended up falling asleep in an upright position...until now. Approximately 20-30 minutes after the nap, I fell back asleep, upright in my chair, for what had to have been only 15-20 minutes and woke without alarm. After a few seconds of thinking about it, I indeed recalled a dream, confirming that this did result in REM sleep...though of a much more polyphasic nature.
So What Would You Do?
First off let me state that my goal is to achieve nothing short of Steve-like results. That means full and monophasic-besting adaptation. No core sleep, all uberman.
With this goal in mind, would you continue this current trial or stop, monophasically reset, and try again later?
Basically does the risk of continuing despite these circumstances outweigh the benefits of being 113 hours into a trial? There's a possibility that I've hadg zero monophasic REM (if the first unscheduled nap did not result in a REM, since I don't recall a dream) and have had at least three confirmed cases of getting REM polyphasically (counting this last one, since it was only 15-20 minutes long, though it's proximity to the nap before it may have been cheating).
If I stop now, I can be sure to be ready for a fourth trial that I plan to start February 15th if I insta-abort this one. If I continue with this I'll probably have to push the fourth trial (assuming I don't succeed) back to March 1st.
So, A) Play it by ear and march on?
Or, B) Cut my losses and recoup for trial four?
Thanks in advance for any advice or insights!
|02-06-2007, 10:37 PM||#242 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
I say - stick with it. Why? Because you wont be getting a better start anyway. Your expectations seem a bit off - occasional oversleep is more like the norm during transition, not the exception. After all youre probably getting incredibly sleep deprived, because the naps you take consciously are not refreshing you. So your body forces you to get some real rest and you cant do anything about it.
What you can do is program yourself well, so that those unwanted naps take as little as possible. I told myself that If I could go 40hours without sleep, I should be able to stay awake for 3 hours after a 30min nap and so when I took the occasional unintended nap (or forgotten alarm) Id wake up in 30mins and keep awake.
The other solution to the problem is to learn to sleep right, so that your subconsious doesnt need to override your decisions anymore.
Im gonna share what I found out for myself from my 2 attemps (first was ok, but the second is awesome now.
In my opinion, the problem with adapting to polyphasic sleep isnt so much in discipline or persistance or having the willpower to stay out of bed until you finally adapt.. Its in getting the maximum rest from the naps youre getting - learn to fully relax your body (might try sleeping on your back) and mind (eliminate all chatter) and tell yourself (your subconscious will carry it out) how long you want to sleep and how you want to feel after that.
Ah - breath deep and stretch after you wake up. Make it a solid habit - its incredibly important for your energy level, after 30secs of breathing exercise I find that the brain fog disappears entirely.
Might add also a big smile and a confirmation like "Im fully awake and in control".
Also find something interesting and vitalizing to do right after you wake up. Certainly not reading.. Online poker is perfect (or any fast-paced computer game), but your eyes might get sore after a while. Tune down the brightness and stuff, relax your eyes and instead listen to some music.
And if nothing else helps you stay awake watching porn does..
I myself couldnt quite adapt to full polyphasic last year, i found it really inflexible. I guess that if you really master it - fall asleep and wake up at will - it will be great, but it was tough for me. Core sleep + several naps on the other hand is so much easier and more flexible that I think everyone should try it. Im sure I can transition to polyphasic sleep now easier than ever too.
I think the most important thing when trying to master your own sleep schedule is the self-programming youre doing to yourself. You MUST remove all doubt and negative outcomes from your mind and replace them with a picture of what you want to happen. And keep looking at that picture, no matter what happens with your schedule. Youll screw up once or twice, but eventually this picture will guide your subconscious into making the changes.
If you imagine negative outcomes in your mind you will reinforce your subconscious into carrying them out. The whole secret to successful adapting lies in the right self-programing imo.
I had scripted myself quite heavily last time and was very pleasantly surprised - Id fall asleep accidentally and wake up in 30mins or forget to set up an alarm and wake up almost at the right time anyway. And I wouldnt blame myself for falling asleep, but rather feel happy that my subc would take care that I do get some rest, but still allow me to progress toward my goal.
Im now sure that everyone can learn to control his sleep - its just that people never try to.
Before trying out polyphasic sleep I had a really hard time falling asleep and waking up. And falling asleep and waking up 5 times a day certainly helps your learning experience. So learn to sleep right. Its a skill. It takes practice.
Question--> How do you people have full lucid dream naps? Can you describe the process between lying down and falling asleep? I try to eliminate thoughts and instead focus on pictures, sounds etc, while remaining conscious, but I usually either lose consciousness or just as I start falling into the dream I get somewhat excited and "wake up".
|02-07-2007, 12:58 AM||#243 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: ~Milwaukee, WI - USA
Hey Malk, thanks for the reply and all the helpful info.
I think I've decided to stick with it this trial. This is easily the closest I've come to full adaptation, among my three attempts, it's just that from what I've read, oversleeping is the norm, but so is failure. And just about everyone who's overslept goes on to fail. But I've got a 100% wake up to alarm ratio for this trial thus far, so I'm in pretty good shape.
I think for the most part I have excellent mental scripting, in terms of knowing I will eventually succeed as a polyphasic sleeper. But I think you were right in assessing that I'm inaccurate in thinking that adaptation has to be perfect.
As far as feeling sleep deprived, that really hasn't been the case yet this time around. I get some morning sleep deprivation, but that's about it, and I'm still waiting to see if I ever get to the point where I'm zombie like and can barely handle a fork, like Steve was midway through the first week.
Anyway, I'm definitely gonna try 30 seconds of breathing exercises upon waking now, or at least really dedicate the beginning of a wake period to feeling fully alert. That ought to neutralize the unscheduled nap threat, hopefully.
PS: I got a good laugh out of porn suggestion for staying awake, I tried something similar in an elaborate alarm system I tested in my last trial. Which I later dubbed the super redundant failsafe lesibialarm.
|02-07-2007, 06:29 AM||#244 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Bwahaha, it seems weve got a pretty similar approach to this actually. I too used Paraliminals. I think the most refreshing one was the Self-esteem supercharger and not dream play or deep relaxation. (though theyre all quite relaxing). I see you had the idea to develop some optimized nap paraliminal, hehe. I thought of that as well and im sure if Paul (or someone else) made one it would make the transition so much easier.
I did exercise routinely most of the time and I felt pretty well. I only really strained myself once and then went to sleep earlier with no harm done.
I dont know how you can cope with excess physical and mental tension without taking longer naps, but I guess that if you manage to relax your mind and body every 4 hours youll probably never experience real tiredness.
Actually if you start getting only high-quality naps you should have excess energy and never really feel exhausted. And probably be able to cut down some of the naps once in a while and not having to compensate.
Ill try perfecting my own schedule soon and I think the key is to improve the quality of the naps (full relaxation and no mind chatter) and my overall energy level (balanced diet with no overeating, deep breathing, good posture, positive creative thinking..).
I've not been very strict with my naps lately and still I manage to maintain the schedule without much effort. Im sure that if I do perfect them I'll be able to cut down my core sleep and retain high energy (probably even increase it).
|02-13-2007, 03:40 PM||#245 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2007
My Uberman Project
I am following the Uberman schedule, am now on day 23, and I am putting up regular videos to inform on my progress and issues. I hope you enjoy, and comments are more than welcome!
YouTube - The Uberman Project - Day 1
YouTube - The Uberman Project - Day 2
YouTube - The Uberman Project - Day 3
YouTube - The Uberman Project - Day 4
YouTube - The Uberman Project - Day 5
YouTube - The Uberman Project - Day 6
YouTube - The Uberman Project - Day 7
YouTube - The Uberman Project - Week 2
YouTube - The Uberman Project - Week 3
I'll keep you posted on additions.
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|02-14-2007, 06:36 AM||#246 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
|02-22-2007, 11:41 AM||#248 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Polyphasic for two months
Today I am sleeping exactly two months polyphasic.
At night I started using my own customized version of the polyphasic sleep track available on the internet. This helps a lot in not having to set the alarm as much, the only problem I had to face was the battery life. I overslept twice already because of batteries dying halfway through my sleep. Now I am using rechargeable batteries that I change then once per day.
All my lucid dreaming has totally disappeared. I read on lucid dreaming and tried to recreate the lucid dreaming environment a couple of times but when trying to stay conscious through a sleep session I ended up not going to sleep at all and had to stop trying. To bad though maybe something I will try if I ever stop with polyphasic sleeping.
Weekends are still a big issue for me. Most of the weekends are so busy that I do not have time for my normal naps during daytime so I skip them and then I try to catch up at night times. This causes that I am over tired on Monday’s and Tuesday’s. This made me think a lot about stopping the last couple of weeks but just thinking of all the time that I will lose keeps me on track of staying polyphasic.
I have a 9 month old baby and part of the polyphasic agreement I made with my wife was that I will not work on the computer at all until she goes to sleep. This arrangement gave me a lot more family time ( and saves my eyes for more reading during the night ) I could greatly see a increase in the bond between me and my baby during my polyphasic sleeping time. Before I used to spend an hour with her and then the rest of the time working on my computer, but now with the dedicated family time the bond between my and my daughter as greatly increased, another big reason for me to never stop being polyphasic.
The future? I do not know. All that I do know is that I will stay polyphasic for as long as possible.
|02-22-2007, 12:31 PM||#249 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Although this reduces the daily free time, it prevents any sleep debt. I feel fine the next day.
|02-23-2007, 09:49 AM||#250 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
When I couldn't sleep in one of my naps I still try to stick to my sleeping patterns, but then I start getting tired an hour before my naps for the next day or two. I found by adding in an extra 2 hour core sleep my system stops getting enough rem in my 25 minute sessions and I struggle to break the habit.
What is the longest enyone has been on polyphasic sleeping so far? The most I read about is 6 months.
|02-23-2007, 11:41 AM||#251 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
|04-19-2007, 04:32 AM||#252 (permalink)|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Not so much a log as a link and a roundup of my polyphasic experiences.
Last time round I adapted to uberman. It probably took me about a month (memory is a bit hazy) due to a fairly large number of oversleeps in the first couple of weeks. Eventually I got it cracked and did strict uberman for about 3 or 4 months. I felt really good on it and all that persuaded me to go back to monophasic was the standard reason most people give - it was wierd being out of sync with everyone else.
This time around I'm trying Dymaxion sleep. The longer waking periods suit me, and I also prefer the idea of slightly longer naps if I can get 30+ minute REM periods to happen. Only one way to find out...
I'm blogging my experiences at http://www.paul-bradley.com
|04-22-2007, 08:59 AM||#253 (permalink)|
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|04-27-2007, 06:38 PM||#254 (permalink)|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
|04-28-2007, 08:43 AM||#255 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Zealand
My trial of polyphasic sleep
A couple of months ago I started with biphasic sleep, getting down to a good 6 hours of total sleep a day with a standard 4.5/1.5 split. The mid-semester break came up, and after getting the rather important assignments done and handed in, I decided to use the mid-semester break to try out polyphasic sleep, using 30 minute naps every 4 hours.
I got to about 2 days before I quit for a day or two while I worked on the one thing I had not really considered --- what to do during all that free time. So I went ahead and got myself adictied to a couple of web browser based games that I still play to this day.
I restarted on the 15th of April, this time more intent on keeping up with polyphasic. On the start of the first trial I had fully given up caffine, and now I report that I am still not drinking any... where was I? Oh right, polyphasic sleep. For a good week or so I had no problems with any oversleeping, but then I am usually the one who gets out of bed in the morning after the first alarm, not using any sort of snooze option.
I am still working on my battleground (with seems to be about 2-6 or 7 am), but I tend to be quite awake during the rest of the day. Also, out of the last 5 naps, I am sure I had dreams in the first 4 of them.. I think that once I have the battleground sorted out, then I will be able to say I am adapted.. but for now I can claim partial adaption and still sleeping less than I did when I had adapted to biphasic.
Last edited by MLT; 04-28-2007 at 09:23 AM. Reason: Added details about my schedule to the first papgraph
|08-21-2007, 06:06 PM||#256 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jul 2007
my name is william hessian, i have studied steve pavlina's logs of sleep during the polyphasic period and have decided to give it a shot myslef. i also really enjoy this thread and hearing other's trial and tribulations.
i am on day 2 and am posting blog and video blogs about my progress.
please see: WilliamHessian.com
i would really appreciate some of the excellent advice you all have in this area. the people in this thread have a lot of experience or knowledge of which i would like to draw from to help me through this. only day two and i am already looking for support.
thanks in advance, i will be back and fourth on this forum as the days progress.
|08-22-2007, 09:05 PM||#257 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2007
in the next day or two i will be starting my attempt at the Dymaxion sleep schedule 4nx30m. I will be blogging it here for anyone who wants to take a look My Account on Polyphasic Sleeping. and i will be throwing out update to this thread every once in a while. I used to be a Uberman sleeper 6nx20m and had reached the point right where i was adapted and then had to quit for a few reasons
since then ive wanted nothing but to be polyphasic again!
my schedule will run somewhere around 12am, 6am, 12pm, and 6pm
all i have to motivate me to not give up during my adaptation is knowing how rewarding it is and how amazing it feels to be polyphasic from my last expierence so wish me luck!
|08-23-2007, 04:44 PM||#258 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jul 2007
i am seriously considering quitting my current polyphasic study
i would appreciate any words of advice/help. i just was not expecting to feel this bad, and have the quality of my awake time be so excrutiatingly torturous.
I am posting suggestions, advice, tips and links to other personal sites on my upcoming blog updates. any help is appreciated.
|08-24-2007, 07:42 AM||#259 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Washington State
I did not attempt to adapt to 4x30, but my husband and I both tried 6x30, and our experience was that days 4-6 were the most challenging. If you decide to give it another try, get caught up on you sleep debt first. Also know that very few people succeed at adapting to 4x30 because it's hard! You might consider 6x30 (or 6x20, 6x25, or whatever nap length works best for you). Another option if what you're looking for is extra hours and a more even energy level is 3 hours at night and 3-4 naps during the day.
Lots of information at Google Groups - Polyphasic Sleep.
|01-15-2008, 04:11 AM||#261 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Billericay, Essex, UK
Polyphasic Sleep Schedule - Jan 2008
I have been fascinated to read about all the experiences people have had with polyphasic sleep. I have been determined for some time to improve the way I use sleep to increase productivity and well-being.
What helps is an ability to sleep virtually anywhere almost on cue.
Before the experiment I would routinely fall asleep within minutes, sometimes seconds of switching out the light and putting my head on the pillow. My wife would often think I was joking when I was so quickly under.
At various times I have also enjoyed naps - and could usually be off within minutes, conscious of REM when I awoke 10 to 15 minutes later.
I regularly 'doze off' in the evening - particularly in front of the television. My greatest 'claim to fame' though was a family trip to the cinema to watch 'Pirates of the Caribbean II'. Despite the noise of the sound track I slept (verified by my wife and my 12-year old nephew) for about an hour and 40 minutes of it!
I also decided that my love for strong ground coffee was going to complicate things so I switched to decaffeinated and no other caffeine other than weak tea about two weeks before the new sleep routine.
In determining which sleep pattern to adopt, I realised that full Dymaxion / Uberman 6 X 20 was not going to be practical.
The best fit for me was the 3-hour block with 3 supplemental naps. To help, I created a spreadsheet showing my sleep times and how tired I felt on a scale of 1 (least) to 5 (most) in between.
I began my schedule on Saturday 6th January 2008.
Initial adjustment did not seem too hard - started off with ...
Main Sleep Block 3-6; then 20-30 minute naps in late morning, (10:30) mid afternoon, (2:30) late evening. 10:30).
I wasn't 100% rigid from the start as I was determined to see if I could find a natural rhythm within a range of times - focussing on good quality naps when I did take them and moved rapidly to Main 4:30 - 7:30 with naps at around 12:30, 6:00 and 11:30.
I missed my midday nap completely on day 6 and I overslept at the end of the morning by an hour on days 7 and 8.
Now I am on day 9, and feel I have hit a wall. Last night I just could not get up again at midnight, so decided to continue and take my 3 hours then. Great - woke up just a few minutes before my alarm.
For the first hour quite alert - but during the last couple (it is now 5:15 am) I have felt physically nauseous with the effort of staying awake. This is where the ability to sleep sitting up in a chair is possibly a bit of a disadvantage. I am also feeling cold - something I rarely have a problem with and even getting up and moving around the house a bit (being careful not to wake wife, father-in-law or 3 dogs of course) has had only a limited effect. A chocolate bar and another walk around just now seem to have lifted me slightly from the absolute pit - but this is a major struggle today!
I will add to this post to report further, but at the moment am feeling a bit desperate!
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|01-17-2008, 12:10 PM||#262 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Oi people. I am another new poster here who has recently attempted to adopt polyphasic sleep. It seems to me that it would be good to talk to other people who are interested in the matter. Do such still read this thread and/or forum?
My experience with polyphasic sleep pretty much matches that of Bruce Achterberg as he describes it here (How to get rid of sleep-o-holism?), in that I have the hardcore rigid conscious willpower to do this thing PERFECTLY! but then a few days into my current adoption effort, when I am 90% asleep and it is imperative that I refrain from going back to bed, the dreaded sleepohol completely deadens said willpower (along with every other aspect of my conscious personality) and I go back to bed like a chump, possibly without even knowing that I am doing it, because people who are 90% asleep are STUPID. And well I've been doing this for months. And it's probably hurting me, but I refuse to stop until I've accomplished something!
See my thing is that I need the extra time that a polyphasic sleep schedule would give me. I work, during the day, at a worthwhile (for now) but unfulfilling software development job, and I have to balance that out with creative work on projects of my own. This is not negotiable! Of course it would be silly for me to declare that polyphasic sleep is the one answer to my problems and that I absolutely must adopt it, since I have yet to prove that I'm actually capable of doing so. However I think it is perfectly reasonable for me to declare that since polyphasic sleep shows such potential to help me, I absolutely must at least try it, for the couple of weeks that it would take before I could say for sure that I was or wasn't capable of doing it.
Well according to various people in these threads, 90% of people just don't have the willpower etc. And Bruce Achterberg says the crux is that you've got to be motivated for the right reasons, and that the way to become so motivated is to like change yourself somehow, to find the real source of motivaton within yourself. This is where he loses me! For I am certain that the motivation could come from outside me. I'm a pragmatic person with a strong tendency to rely on automatic support from machines--if I can cobble together a gadget to maybe solve a problem, that's what I'll try first. I don't go straight for the introspective higher-self-finding stuff that seems to be more popular around here. So I've done the four-alarm-clocks thing and the drinking-tea-at-night thing and the always-have-something-in-the-oven-when-you-nap-so-you-feel-like-you-HAVE-to-get-up thing and various other kooky plans like that. And... yeah, none of it has worked consistently. But still I am completely confident that SOMEBODY on earth could devise a mechanical system that could keep me awake when my conscious self would want to be awake. The catch, of course, is that I may well not be that somebody....
So I turn in another direction for help. Again, I'm sure Mr. Achterberg has a point, but I'm not going to do what he suggests--I just don't know how to tackle that by myself. I rely too much on my conscious personality to just start working on the unconscious one and expect it to become sufficiently motivated for this effort in a timely fashion. That is maybe a fine cause in the long term but I want to follow a polyphasic sleep schedule starting NOW. So instead I wish to try a completely obvious potential solution that, bizarrely, no other would-be polyphasic sleeper I've read about has ever even suggested might be possible to do: Get a sleeping buddy! I want to find some other person--more than one if possible!--who wishes to adopt the schedule at the same time as I do, or who has already done so, and get them to telephone me when I am supposed to be waking up. Because (assuming I put enough protective tape over the vulnerable parts of my phone) that system would constitute an alarm clock I could not shut off: an intelligent mind that would know when I had not awakened fully, and that would just keep trying until I'd done so. (And then I could do the same for them.) That's what's missing for me--I've got the flow of wake-up signal from the alarm clock to my person, but the flow back from my person to the clock is incomplete. I need a clock that is smart, that observes what I'm doing and that can't be tricked. I need somebody who will hassle the crap out of me until they are sure that I'm speaking consciously to them and that the stupid sleepguy I sometimes become is no longer in charge. And in return I would hassle them back.
So I wonder whether anyone here would be interested in such a thing. And if not then do you know where I might find someone who was? I read something in one of these threads about a Yahoo! polyphasic sleep mailing list or some such--is that any good? Come on folks, we've got to support each other here!
|07-06-2008, 04:28 AM||#263 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Diego, California
New Biphasic sleeper
--January... Yeah... for some reason this feels like a dead thread. But, I will post anyway!
I am on day 1 of biphasic sleeping. I know, it's not quite the undertaking that polyphasic sleep is, but it is what I can tolerate to risk right now in my life.
(BTW, please someone let me know if this thread has gone somewhere else, or if there is some better place to post my biphasic sleep log... )
Yesterday, day 0 if you will, I woke up from a good night's sleep , I stayed awake all day long, and I went to sleep at about . I woke up with my alarm 4.5 hours later, and went running!
The period of time (so far) today where I have felt tired was during the 2.5-3 hours that I was waiting for a haircut. I was trying to sit and read my book, but it was not keeping me awake. This tiredness I will attribute to at least the fact that it is boring to sit in line for 3 hours, and maybe also to the fact that I had just finished eating a footlong Chicken, Bacon, Ranch from subway...
anyway, it is only 1330 right now, on day one, but I feel like I've been awake for a while, and done alot. I'm not sure when I am going to take my nap in the evening, but I am going to try for at least after 1700 (because that is when I can reasonably expect to get a nap in on a normal working day). I'm sure my body will tell me when it's time to nap!
"Get a sleeping buddy!"
I actually just finished watching the 4 weeks worth of "The Uberman Project" and I imagined myself trying this with my best friend, using that same concept. I think there is real potential behind that idea. 2 wills are better than 1!
|07-06-2008, 12:50 PM||#264 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Diego, California
1st nap, 1st oversleep!!
Wierd... the 1st 90 minute nap that I attempted to take  and I overslept by 1 whole sleep cycle...
I'm not sure what exactly happened, but I don't think I woke up at all until 3 hours later . Next time I will have to set more than just my phone alarm!
Interestingly, a few minutes after waking up and realizing that I had overslept, my brain seems to have conjured some kind of explanation for why I overslept. I was actually comforted by this explanation thinking "well, I overslept, but it wasn't my fault because of x". But shortly thereafter I realized that there couldn't possibly be any viable excuse... and then I realized that I had no idea what it was I was thinking about or remembering and all traces of that explanation vanished from my brain. Very wierd... I wonder if it was a dream....
|07-15-2008, 07:52 AM||#265 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Polyphasic Sleeping: Smashing Success (Dymaxion Sleep)
Today is my 4th day of using polyphasic sleep. I am using the Dymaxion Sleep Schedule which calls for 4 naps each 24 hour period and 30 minutes during each nap. Thus, I sleep for 2 hours every "day." So far, I have felt great. My mental and physical capabilities have been stellar, and of course I have had a ridiculous amount of free time which I love. Please come learn more about Polyphasic Sleeping by visiting my page at John.Williford.blogspot.com
you can also track my detailed day to day progress on my website
best wishes everyone
|08-06-2008, 07:07 AM||#266 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2008
I sleep from 9:45-10:15 and from 3:45-4:15.
So whenever those times come around, I get to disappear for half an hour. :P
I was going to begin a couple days ago, but I ended up hitting the snooze button four times and eventually turning it off. That ended up not being such a bad thing, though, as I got called in to work for someone later that day.
So, I began nearly five hours ago, my next nap being in forty minutes.
I may have to push it for an hour or two because of work, but I don't think it will pose a problem.
Edit: Just had my second nap. It's taking me a while to fall asleep; then again, it's always taken me a long time. It seems whenever I have five minutes left, I start to doze. I believe I'll make progress, though.
I'm going to keep my sleep log on LiveJournal, probably. I'll post it here once I make it.
Edit two: I had my third nap, but overslept. I ended up sleeping about two hours. I think, though, if you make the decision to just jump right in to something like instead of letting your body gradually adjust to it, it will gradually adjust for you. I believe the occasional oversleeping is necessary.
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|08-06-2008, 06:42 PM||#267 (permalink)|
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|08-06-2008, 06:56 PM||#268 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2008
I meant during the first week of adjusting, and as long as it doesn't go over ninety minutes. Today I went over that.
You need to let your body adjust to a change like this. Maybe one time of oversleeping at the very beginning is what I need to "reset" things.
|08-07-2008, 09:12 PM||#269 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2008
|10-06-2008, 04:24 PM||#270 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Ok. I am..
Country : Malaysia
Age : 21
Gender : Male
Occupation : Student
Time flexibility : Rather flexible
I will start my Polyphasic sleeping pattern today.
DAY : 0
I have search throughout the web, but it seems that only a small number of experimenter persists on it, mostly gave up.
And sadly, due to no apparent reason, there is no even a single serious reasearch done on this topic, which may benefit a particular band of mankind ( except that of Mr.Stampi ).
I have no blog, so yup, I will have my progession updated here.
If I am not mistaken, there are 3 kinds of Polyphasic sleep pattern, namely,
Dymaxion can be considered as the most extreme form of practice, the pattern is 4 times of 30mins sleep distributed throughout the day (4x30mins), and what now I am aiming to do is to adopt this pattern.
From my medical and biology knowledge and the whole bunch of information garner from the Internet, I think it is rather plausible for mankind to adopt this practice.
It is just that our cultural context limited polyphasic sleeper from doing so, since you will be labelled as weirdo among your peers.
It also requires great amount of courage to live quite a "different" way from the whole society, so to speak.
Thinking about the extra time. Well, as every wiseman know that time is the most valuable asset, even the Christian Bible dictates us to treasure the time.
I am planning to use the extra time ( if I successfully adopt this lifestyle throughout my whole life), to read more books, help others and achieve much more things, and this is the reason why I want to try this out.
Okay my schedule will be estimately like this :
7.00AM - 1.00PM (Working hour. For everybody, this is primetime,nobody seems to get away from work at this point)
1.00PM - 1.30PM (Sleep. Commonly,I believe that most of us will be spared from our work to take a break, lunch or something else at this point, so if you are able to squeeze in a sleeping period here will be awesome, but the problem keeps bothering me is - I don't have anything like portable bed ( haven't created on earth), am I really expected to sleep on the sofa/chair found in office/school/organization or even any eating table in the cafeteria? Luckily now I am in a holiday, so I don't have to bother it right now)
1.30PM - 7.30PM (Working hour. This is still prime time,though some occupation like morning section school teachers are off)
7.30PM - 8.00PM (Sleep. I try to have my dinner about 6pm-7pm, and most of us already get home at this moment, so a comfortable bed is easily accessible for you to sleep.)
8.00PM - 2.00AM (Working hour. This is the treasure time and most tempted time. Treasure because others will be resting and playing and mixing with friends/ socializing, your hardwork at this point will definitely paid off. On the other hand it is very tempting since you can easily slacken at this moment if your are not alert.)
2.00AM - 2.30AM (Sleep. I called this the ENDING POINT of the whole cycle - this is very important, I will give the reason later. Ok, I think this is the easiest part in the whole process,unless you have a night shift or you occupation working time is at night, then you have to adjust your schedule accordingly. MAKE SURE I/YOU SLEEP DEEPLY this step, plus most of the medical knowledge state that this is part of the time period when your inner organ get recover and rest completely (somewhere around 12am-3am), so it is of utter importance to get sleep here.)
2.30AM - 6.30AM (Working hour. This is the STARTING POINT. The silence of the enviroment make you focus, thus the best time to work, and note, this step is not the usual 6 hours but only 4 hours, you can't fit the whole cycle if you insist on 6 hours )
6.30AM -7.00AM (Sleep. For most of us, we are still at home in this point ,unless you are some News anchor need to host an early program or the like, most probably you will still at home and the bed is accessible, so...sleep.
I think I have to remind myself :
For most polyphasic sleeper, it is important to view the length of time as a unit of day. Meaning: many polyphasic sleeper will fall into the trap that as if the time is, in a sense, continuous, rather than viewing them as a day discretly. It is important to realize that we must hold the concept of there is a new begining of the day and an ending of that same day, you can't view the time from a standpoint that it is continuous, without a new starting day and a closing end.
This is quite psychological. We, as human being, tend to find it challenging if we start a new and fresh day, and knowing that it has an end. Without knowing this and treat the time "continuously" without the seperation of one day from another, you will most probably doom to fail to adopt this sleep pattern.
So a fresh and new start of the day is 2:30 AM, and the end of that day is 2:00AM.
So from now on I will post updates here daily, as long as there is no accident event or any computer crash-down.
I hope my personal experiment can somehow become first-hand data and contribute to the knowledge pool on the research of Polyphasic Sleep, since research knowledges in this aspect are scarce.
Last edited by aslkdzm; 10-06-2008 at 04:56 PM.
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