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Old 02-24-2009, 07:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Do You Take Reponsibility for Your Food Supply?

A lot of people here are taking responsibility for the food they put in their bodies and even consider that a "high consciousness" thing to do. But how many of you are taking responsibility for your food supply?

Do you really know where you food comes from? Can you give a more detailed answer than "the grocery store"? You see videos about animals being mistreated so you stop eating meat. You hear that pesticides are harmful so you buy organic. You read that cooking denatures protein and leaches out vitamins, so you eat raw. But is that enough?

Organic Food


For example, due to certain developments over the past few years, you simply cannot rely on the "organic" label anymore. Organic standards have been diluted over the past 10 years. A lot of "organic" food in United States supermarkets comes from California or even China. How much fossil fuels did it take to get your organic cucumber to you, and is it really better for the environment than buying something that was grown locally but conventionally?

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Many here have resolved to eat only real, whole foods, mostly plants. That is wonderful, but unless you take responsibility for your food supply, you are at the mercy of a massive, complex, and very precarious balancing act called The Economy.

What would you do if you went to the grocery store and the store shelves were empty? Most grocery stores operate with an inventory supply of a few days. In the industry, they call this "just-in-time inventory" and the name speaks for itself. The food gets on the shelves just in time and stores rely on a complex infrastructure to keep those shelves full. What if that complex system breaks down? What we're seeing right now in the economy makes me believe that could happen, and soon.

Here's an unfortunate fact: Nutritious food rots pretty quickly. If you're eating raw, you're in the most precarious position, in my opinion, because your food supply doesn't lend itself to long-term storage. Eating unprocessed food means it's harder to store much food for very long. At least the low-conscious fool can eat his mac 'n cheese and other low-nutrition but long storing food in an emergency. What happens when all your veggies rot in the refrigerator?

I don't think entertaining these questions is fear-based or low-consciousness or whatever other catchphrase you want to use. It's just plain intelligent.

So what can we do? Here are some ideas:

-Eat local. Shop at farmers markets during the growing season.

-Grow a garden. I started a thread on this board about growing a garden and I was surprised by the lack of interest.

-Store some canned goods "justincase."

-Learn about vegetables that can be stored longer-term such as potatoes, squash, and onions.



What do ya think?

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Old 02-24-2009, 08:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think your suggestions are all good ones! This is a good thread topic.

I am learning to be more in touch with what is in season and with what tends to naturally keep a long time. Before refrigeration, Americans kept produce close to year round by planning ahead, root cellars, and other ideas. Although not Raw, they also canned, which is something any of us can easily do in our kitchen. Even Walmart sells pressure-canners and bottles; look for them especially during the growing season.

While it's true some "organic" produce comes from overseas, it's been my experience that most is a US product. Short of buying produce grown in my county, ALL produce relies on fossil fuels for shipping & refrigeration. I will admit to being frustrated though with the lack of much organic, and the few things I find here that are are many times the price. I figure conventional grown fruit is better than none at all, when organic isn't an option.

Here is one of my favorite magazines on growing your own foods, heirloom varieties, self sufficiency, DIY food storage, and food quality:
Mother Earth News: The Original Guide to Living Wisely
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Old 02-24-2009, 08:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Funchy, I love Mother Earth News. Great magazine. I got a bunch of back issues from friend and I've been spending my free time absorbing all the great info in there.

A root cellar is a good idea. My parents have an unheated part of their basement that I think might be good for storing veggies.
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have changed my diet, to eat more raw veges and fruits as well.

I don't give up meat entirely, at least not yet, but i restrict to fish and poultry.


Something prompted me to suddenly move this way... it's like, a change i am experiencing, like something higher level than me urges me to switch.
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At least the low-conscious fool can eat his mac 'n cheese and other low-nutrition but long storing food in an emergency
Mmmmmm that would be me.
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Growing a garden is a good idea, not only because it's more evironmentally friendly and healthy, but it could also give you a feeling of connection to the land you're living on.
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California provides something like 30% of the nations fresh produce and legumes.

I suspect it'll continue to be that way until some vertical farming infinitives take off across the rest of the country.


On the up side, organic food here is almost the same price as conventional. I've been eating all organic for over a year now.
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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OpEdNews » Goodbye farmers markets, CSAs, and roadside stands

Goodbye farmers markets, CSAs, and roadside stands

The "food safety" bills in Congress were written by Monsanto, Cargill, Tysons, ADM, etc. All are associated with the opposite of food safety. What is this all about then?


In the simplest terms, organic food and a rebirth of farming were winning. Not in absolute numbers but in a deep and growing shift by the public toward understanding the connection between their food and their health, between good food and true social pleasures, between their own involvement in food and the improvement in their lives in general, between local food and a burgeoning local economy.


Slow Food was right - limit your food to what comes from your region and from real farmers, and slow down to cook it and linger over it with friends and family, and the world begins to change for the better.


And as we face an unprecedented economic crisis, and it is hard to be sure what has value, one thing that always does is food. Which is why the corporations are after absolute control over it. But what obstacles to a complete lock on food do they face? All the people in this country who are "banking" on organic farming and urban gardens and most of all, everyone's deepening pleasure in and increasing involvement with everything about food.


Farmers markets. Local farmers. Real milk. Fresh eggs. Vegetable stands.


Those are things we not only all want, but things we are actively getting involved in, and things we very much need. And where they are truly good, they are growing.


The international financial corporations which have wreaked havoc around the world with astounding nonsensical "solutions" that are destructive of everyone but them, are brothers to the international agribusiness giants (Monsanto, Cargill, Tysons, ADM, etc.) which are just as aggressively after their own form of "taking." Just seeds, animals, water, land.


And freedom.


Because human beings are by in large good and by in large incredibly resilient and clever, and left to their own devices - that is, free - they would handle this gargantuan financial stupidity the corporations brought us with NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT and all other globalized schemes (which they hope to eventually top off with CODEX). How? By being productive in real ways and locally. And farming is the solid ground under that. Farmers produce something of real value (something we used to take for granted), and from that base, businesses grow up. Local markets, local food processors, local seed companies, local tool and supply companies, local stores ... and an economy based on reality and something truly good for us, too, begins to grow.


So, look again at what has been exciting us - Farmers markets. Local farmers. Real milk. Fresh eggs. Vegetable stands. - and realize that they are not only wonderfully healthy but fun and naturally community building. And more, they are a real economy and deeply democratic - and just at a time we need something that works economically, that supports our democratic rebirth, and that protects food itself and our easy access to it.


And it is all those things that threaten the corporations ... which is why we now have these massive "fake food safety" bills in Congress. Everything is going under thanks to these fools, and they wish to be there like vultures to make sure that every drop of blood that can be sucked out of our resources and us, is theirs. To wit, they must get rid of such good and innocent things and yet truly powerful things as:


Farmers markets. Local farmers. Real milk. Fresh eggs. Vegetable stands.


And how will those who contaminate our country's food with pesticides, hormones, antibiotics and more, do that? Why, by setting standards for "food safety" that are so grotesquely and inappropriately and even cruelly applied to a local, independent farmers and ranchers that there is no way they can manage. Imagine your being faced with a 100 page IRS form and facing a million dollar a day penalty for screwing up. That would be in the ball park of the impossible complexity mixed with threat facing our farmers. Imagine having the government and corporations deciding every single thing you can do and must do in your kitchen and backing that up with the threat of 10 years in prison for screwing up - though you have never made anyone sick, and those corporations have. Imagine being surveilled 24 hours a day by GPS tracking devices that feed into ... a corporate data bank, one they have now moved out of the country so no one here can have legal access to see what is in it.


Imagine the devil himself - or a whole boardrooms of them, dressed in suits - defining the only safe and healthy food in this country as dangerous and burdening hard working farmers with more work then anyone could bear, while his own, their own, food is so dangerous at this point that in the last 10 years alone, diabetes has gone up 90%.


And how did they get this far with such a scheme to apply insane industrial standards to every farm in the country? Through fear of diseases and of outbreaks of food borne illnesses, both of which they cause themselves.


How it works: Tyson helps Bill Clinton get into office. Bill Clinton immediately and significantly lowers contamination standards for poultry as a thank you. And it is such contaminated waste from transnational poultry factories which is now implicated as the source of bird flu. Then fortunes on made on that fear. And then poultry industry uses the crisis they created to push out small farmers and take greater control than ever. Their mantra? Biodiversity not only be damned but be eliminated. And get rid of those damn farmers who protect it while we're at it.


The bills would require such a burdensome complexity of rules, inspections, licensing, fees, and penalties for each farmer who wishes to sell locally - a fruit stand, at a farmers market - no one could manage it. And THAT is the point. The whole dirty tricks point. The whole "be in tight control of everything needed for survival because it'll be worth a fortune" point.


So, if you like farmers markets, local farmers, fresh milk, fresh eggs, vegetables stands, and freedom, let your friends know that it's all on the line right now with those "fake food safety" bills brought to us with well-planned evil and more of it to come, by Monsanto, Cargill, Tysons, ADM, etc.


Slow Food reminds us of just where we need to be (and notice how much would help any local economy):


Forming and sustaining seed banks to preserve heirloom varieties in cooperation with local food systems;
Developing an "Ark of Taste" for each ecoregion, where local culinary traditions and foods are celebrated;
Preserving and promoting local and traditional food products, along with their lore and preparation;
Organizing small-scale processing (including facilities for slaughtering and short run products);
Organizing celebrations of local cuisine within regions (for example, the Feast of Fields held in some cities in Canada);
Promoting "taste education;"
Educating consumers about the risks of fast food;
Educating citizens about the drawbacks of commercial agribusiness and factory farms;
Educating citizens about the risks of monoculture and reliance on too few genomes or varieties;
Developing various political programs to preserve family farms;
Lobbying for the inclusion of organic farming concerns within agricultural policy;
Lobbying against government funding of genetic engineering;
Lobbying against the use of pesticides;
Teaching gardening skills to students and prisoners; and
Encouraging ethical buying in local marketplaces.
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Yes. I eat what I believe to be the most ecologically helpful diet possible. I wrote about this here.
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