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Hi I was wondering if anyone has experience with using Tony Robbins Diet suggestions which are basicly: - Do not mix carbs and proteins - Eat 70% watery food (vegetable, fruit) - Eat less proteins I have tried it only for a few days, but I havent really felt any difference yet, except for feeling more empty stomach, which I guess comes from eating less carb fillers. But have any of you long term experience with this? |
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yes I tried it Tony discusses this plan in his book and even gives his readers a food chart to follow here is the website of Herbert Shelton whom he talks about in his book Food Combining Principles Discussed by Dr. Herbert Shelton Marilu Henner is also a practioner of this principle- Amazon.com: Marilu Henner's Total Health Makeover: Marilu Henner, Laura Morton: Books He -Tony Robbins- said in his book that after all the research he just felt better following this food combining plan he also discusses the 'evils' of dairy and meat Last edited by lifetimelearner; 02-22-2009 at 03:17 PM. Reason: left some out | |
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I've had some success on the diet, going on it numerous times during the last 7-8 years or so. Most other diets that I've looked at, I've judged negatively due to the fact that they are in contradiction with the Alkalarian philosophy, especially since protein is made out to be such a negative thing. In the last 8 years I have gotten my nutritionist diploma, and have met many people in the "Health and Wellness" circles. These are the types of people that eat Tofu, don't eat out of plastic containers because it "leeches into the food", drink "green drinks", go on "fasts", are either vegetarian or vegan, are into the "Alkaline" diet thing etc. Problem is that most of them are unhealthy! They've supposedly been eating "clean" for years, some of them decades, but they still walk around with 20,30, 40lbs of excess body fat on them, they go to 39 different types of "Wellness Doctors" etc. They don't go to surgeons and regular doctors, shunning them due to their "corruption" and the fact that they only treat symptoms and you never get any better by going to them, but then they go to Reiki, Naturopaths, Chiropractors, Homeopaths, Meditation Classes, Yoga, Infra Red Sauna Therapy, Colon Cleansing, and 25 other "wellness practitioners".... yet.... they are still unhealthy. Although I don't like the traditional paradigm of going to doctors and getting pills sold to you on TV, I think there is something wrong with the "wellness" paradigm as well. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I just decided to hit the REBOOT button on my brain and start ALL OVER with nutrition. I erased all beliefs going back to the stuff that Tony Robbins teaches and decided to learn experientially instead. Two weeks ago I started doing a nutrition plan and fitness plan called P90X, and I love it. It goes against what Tony / Dr. Young would teach, but I don't care anymore. The diet starts out with a high protein content of about 50% protein, 30% carbs, 20% fat, and over a 90 day period transitions towards a more 60% carbs, 20% protein, 20% fat type diet. The reason I like this diet so much is because it's EASY and it works. I'm loving the foods I'm eating, I don't feel deprived or starved, I'm enjoying cooking the meals, it's easy to find the foods that I need for the recipe's at regular grocery stores, and even when I go to a restaurant I can easily find foods that fit the criteria that I need. It's only been 2 weeks, but I've been feeling WAY stronger than before, and I've already built up lean muscle tissue while also losing body fat. For me personally, I'm going to stay away from Tony's diet for now, instead choosing something that's doable, and I can always clean it up as I go. If you'd like to see what kind of foods I've been eating, go to Fitness Health and Healing as I take pictures pretty much every day of everything I eat. On the Alkalarian/Tony diet in the past I've lost 16lbs in 2 weeks one time, but it was the toughest diet I have ever been on, it was so hard to stick with it, and after a few weeks I couldn't do it anymore, ended up going back to the crappy foods I ate before and ended up gaining all that weight back and more. It's a really hard diet to stick with. In fact I don't know anyone who's been able to stick to the diet strictly... | |
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Wow Mr Nutri-Paul, thank for your input. (I like your Fish blog) My current situation is that I'm reshuffling my eating lifestyle. Because of eating too much in volume of mostly healthy stuff I keep gaining weight. For the Tony alkaline method I must say, that I do not follow completely and consistent. I do eat meat and fish, still I try to eat as much as greens and fruits and nuts/seeds as possible. If I go of that track too long I get a flu or similar symptoms. Indeed, Jack, the first few days without carbs I feel lame too. It passes for me after 2 or 3 days. Just until I put a shock in my system called Spagetti il Tommy. hihi. Seriously, I do believe that every one should find a lifestyle of eating that suits him/her. What Paul mentioned that people think they eat healthy and actually are unhealthy, I see too often and is shameful. My conclusion, Tony is fine, but use some brains and eat moderately. Have a nice meal, |
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2 lifetimelearner, OK, lets try to discuss it in detail. From one the links that you provided... The principles of food combining are dictated by digestive chemistry. Different foods are digested differently... Starchy foods require an alkaline digestive medium which is supplied initially in the mouth by the enzyme ptyalin; Protein foods require an acid medium for digestion- hydrochloric acid. As any student of chemistry will assure you, acids and bases (alkalis) neutralize each other. If you eat a starch with a protein, digestion is impaired or completely arrested! What does that mean? We've been eating not right throughout our whole life? We always eat protein with starch. Can someone please elaborate.... |
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I'm increasingly starting to find that what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for others. Tony Robbins has a body type and a lifestyle which is very different from most people, and we should keep this in mind. Sleeping habits is another thing which is different for different people. Some ultra-high achievers get by on 4-5 hours, whereas that's not nearly enough for most people. |
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Hmmm...this is a very interesting topic, and as with other threads the subject of what can be defined as the healthiest or best diet for a human being can be endlessly debated, with 'supporting evidence' to be found for almost any possible viewpoint. My family and I have recently stopped consuming both meat and dairy, although we didn't really include much meat in our diet previously. This is both an ethical and we think a health-oriented choice. We have noticed changes in our digestive patterns and also our energy levels - interestingly, I am tired more often but it feels like I am tired from the changes I'm undergoing rather than the lethargy I used to feel. I have also noticed more clarity and a feeling of lightness. I do wonder if I'm not getting enough protein or necessary nutrients, and will continue to tweak our diet as I go and learn. I am actually making this point to go on to say that in the first two or three weeks of this change, I worked out and exercised nearly every day and noticed a remarkable improvement in my results. Conversely, I have been traveling and working, not getting any exercise for the past week or so, as well as slipping up on my stricter food regimen of no caffeine, dairy, eggs, minimal bread and pasta. Although I haven't gained weight I can feel the softness, lack of clarity and lethargy creeping back...yuck. Sooo...for me it is a combination of input - diet - and output - exercise which makes the fundamental difference in health and vitality. Very interesting comment, Paul, about your 'reboot' and switch to experimenting for yourself with what works for you. We all need to to do this, I think, and take everything we learn from our various sources, and tailor it to ourselves. Cheers! |
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Seeking diet advice from Tony Robins is like asking Dr. Phil why my car wont start. Anyone can write a book about what works for them, especially someone with the clout that Tony carries. The point I am trying to make is find out what works for you. Out of all the trials I have done the only recurring universal "TRUTH" that seems to keep resurfacing is to eat your food as natural, and unprocessed as possible. Whatever the food may be. |
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Problem is that a lot of of them are unhealthy! They've allegedly been bistro "clean" for years, some of them decades, but they still airing about with 20,30, 40lbs of balance physique fat on them, they go to 39 altered types of "Wellness Doctors" etc. They don't go to surgeons and approved doctors, abstention them due to their "corruption" and the actuality that they alone amusement affection and you never get any bigger by traveling to them, but again they go to Reiki, Naturopaths, Chiropractors, Homeopaths, Meditation Classes, Yoga, Infra Red Sauna Therapy, Colon Cleansing, and 25 added "wellness practitioners".... yet.... they are still unhealthy. Although I don't like the acceptable archetype of traveling to doctors and accepting pills awash to you on TV, I anticipate there is something amiss with the "wellness" archetype as well. I can't absolutely put my feel on it, but I just absitively to hit the REBOOT button on my academician and alpha ALL OVER with nutrition. I asleep all behavior traveling aback to the being that Tony Robbins teaches and absitively to apprentice experientially instead. Last edited by Eric Roosevelt; 06-25-2009 at 07:10 PM. Reason: blank space |
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There's not a whole lot of validity to food combining. Though the suggestion to eat lots of fruits and vegetables is a good one. As to the protein, there is nothing wrong with protein. But, watch the caloric content of the calories. One benefit to protein that's often forgoten is that it leads to a greater sense of fullness. It's one of the reasons that so many weight loss experts say to have protein at every meal. Also, your body cannot manufacture protein so you do need to include some in your diet. It's necessary for your body to function optimally. Here's a good guideline: * 0.4 to 0.6 grams protein per kilogram ideal body weight for sedentary persons * 0.6 to 1.0 grams protein per kilogram ideal body weight for active persons * 1.0 to 1.4 grams protein per kilogram ideal body weight for persons doing regular intensive exercise (such as competitive bodybuilders or triathletes) |
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