I will not eat meat again!

[lemuria]

Just wanna share with you guys something (because my friends will think I'm crazy if I told them and I'm really want to share my experiences)

4 days ago I've decided to try and meat again for at least 21 days because I want to see the effect.
As you guys can see from the title... I've had some nasty experience with it...
I've became a vegan for... months now (can't remember the exact date) and I wasn't even aware of the many positive effects it have on my body. For starters, I was able to sleep 5.30-6.30 hours per day w/o depending on any external stimulus.

Now, back to my meat eating experience... it was terrible. Sure, the meat is somewhat delicious compared to my vegan diet and I have more choices... but, the last 2 days I woke up feeling tired and groggy. It seem that my body need more sleep but my body have already programmed itself to wake up 6 hours later. I can see that my productivity level dropped and most of the time I feel tired. I can't think clearly (I've wasted a lot of time today).

Anyway, the point is I found that meat eating bring many negative effects to the body. And it would be very bad because I'm about to attempt polyphasic sleep, for now I only want to read the experiences of polyphasic sleepers...

Vegetables rules! Maybe I should try raw food diet next.

-time for my nap (thanks a lot, meat)-

[KeithS]

Hmmm I don't really believe that meat can do that to you. On the other hand I have never seen a 'healthy' looking vegan. They are always pale and pasty, you might be different I don't know. Man should eat meat.

[Majesticzero]

I think it's because your body isn't used to eating meat anymore.

But just like KeithS says, I've never seen a healthy looking vegan. And this also holds me from becoming a vegan.

[Victor Vikingr]

Originally Posted by KeithS

Hmmm I don't really believe that meat can do that to you. On the other hand I have never seen a 'healthy' looking vegan. They are always pale and pasty, you might be different I don't know. Man should eat meat.

Steve's picture can be found here: Personal Development for Smart People - Steve Pavlina

[KeithS]

There are exceptions Victor

Lemuria, usually life changes start out hard then get easier, working out get easier the more you do it. I'm sure this is no different.

[Majesticzero]

Originally Posted by Victor Vikingr

Steve's picture can be found here: Personal Development for Smart People - Steve Pavlina

A lot of vegans look pale or a bit yellowish. I also see that with people on a rawfood diet. If there is a way to look healthy and eat raw food / be a vegan, I'll probably change my diet

[Zwynd]

Originally Posted by Majesticzero

A lot of vegans look pale or a bit yellowish. I also see that with people on a rawfood diet. If there is a way to look healthy and eat raw food / be a vegan, I'll probably change my diet

Perhaps it's not so much that they're yellow/pale from the diet, but rather that they took the new diet because they were already pale/yellow to begin with and wanted to look/feel better?

Not every vegan/vegetarian/raw person you meet has been that way for years and years and years.^^

[Parthon]

lemuria: Try the raw food diet, it's a great experience and it will make you more aware of the effect food really has on us. Also, good luck on the polyphasic, I just started myself and the first week is a real challenge.

KeithS: If there are exceptions, then you really can't say "Never." I think you don't know enough real vegans yourself, being a carnivore and all, but they are out there. For the figures though, only about 3-7% of people consider themselve vegetarian, based on polls, and only about 0.5% of people are vegan. That means you would have to know 200 people and their eating habits before you knew a vegan.

Lastly: When I see people around, I notice that not all of them look healthy. I would say less than half. That's a staggering number of people being unhealthy on the regular diet. I believe that until we can find the one perfect diet, we'll still be searching.

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by KeithS

Hmmm I don't really believe that meat can do that to you. On the other hand I have never seen a 'healthy' looking vegan. They are always pale and pasty, you might be different I don't know. Man should eat meat.

I'm on the right. ^

Care to post your pic KeithS?

[Cristal Lilly]

congratulations on finding what works better for you, and proving it to yourself to boot

I'm an ethically inclined omnivore myself (meaning I do eat meat, but not from mass production/tortured animals, and not like it was never a living being. I'm not from the US or any big developed country though, so I think it's less complicated for me), but I'm happy for you (and I hope you respect your food too)
your friends might be happy too, if you let them? if you call them your friends, then your happyness should be important in those relationships. so if you tell them you found a way to be more happy with your life, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to respect your choice and share your joy with you.

but hey, in any case you have this place, and when people here don't get too wrapped up in politics they can share this joy with you.
congratulations once again

[carenkh]

We Like It Raw - Raw Food Goodness: Before & After

Very nice-lookin' raw folks!

[Dan.Linehan]

Wow, nice pics carenk..!

[Joeschmoe]

Wow, I think I will be taking my leave of this website. It's amazing to me that a Personal development website would be so rife with prejudice and defensiveness.

[SimonaRich]

I am completely agree on all the consequences of meet you've listed. You lose a lot of energy and sleep longer.

I did not even realise that since starting meditating I did not eat any meat because my body just would not want that. It was natural choice.

Without eating meat I feel great and have much more energy, positivity and focus.

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Joeschmoe

Wow, I think I will be taking my leave of this website. It's amazing to me that a Personal development website would be so rife with prejudice and defensiveness.

Whose post are you talking about exactly?

[Parthon]

Originally Posted by Joeschmoe

Wow, I think I will be taking my leave of this website. It's amazing to me that a Personal development website would be so rife with prejudice and defensiveness.

Wow, leaving an entire wesite over one thread! Isn't that a bit prejudice and defensive?

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Parthon

Wow, leaving an entire wesite over one thread! Isn't that a bit prejudice and defensive?

Not necessarily. If you aren't getting anything out of it, why stay?

I've seen Joe respond to dozens of inarticulate, irrational and downright ignorant posts about the veg*n diet. I'm sure that would get old after a while.

[ggwbach]

good on you!

I've been vegan for 6 months now, and feel awesome!

some of the benefits -

1) better sleep
2) better bowel movements (very important!)
3) save money
4) better stamina through the day (peaks and slumps smoothed out)
5) much slimmer

good on you for giving up meat.

it's a bold step forward.

[rawvegan]

I myself have been a vegan for over a year but slacking off recently.

I have eaten meat recently and felt really disgusting and bloated after it.

[funchy]

Originally Posted by Majesticzero

A lot of vegans look pale or a bit yellowish. I also see that with people on a rawfood diet. If there is a way to look healthy and eat raw food / be a vegan, I'll probably change my diet

I've never seen anyone look this way. Is it possible some people are projecting their prejudices about not eating meat onto the vegans they meet?


I googled and found a few famous vegans to take a closer look at. Honest question - do they look pale, yellowish, or sickly?

If nobody told you they were vegan, could you tell by looking at them?

Einstein



Alyssa Milano, actress




Andre of Outkast



Andrew G, Australian actor




Barry White, musician




Brian Bell of Weezer



Casey Kasem, radio host




Bryan Adams, rock musician




Darly Hannah, actress (anyone old enough to remember that movie Splash? )




Ellen




Geoff Rowley, pro skakeboarder

[oberlee]

If you felt groggy, etc., after eating meat again, it could just simply be the fact that your body is used to breaking down plant food, which, in many if not all cases, is a lot easier on the body.

However, it sounds like you don't have any ethical feelings against meat, so it sounds like you can make a choice that just leaves you happy. I believe you can be healthy eating vegan, raw, veggie and omnivorous. I think being happy about your diet is the most important factor.

[funchy]

Originally Posted by carenkh

We Like It Raw - Raw Food Goodness: Before & After

Very nice-lookin' raw folks!

DARN! They are nice looking.

I really need to get off my lazy butt and really give raw a serious shot. Thanks, carenkh, for an added boost of motivation.

[liamona]

Originally Posted by oberlee

If you felt groggy, etc., after eating meat again, it could just simply be the fact that your body is used to breaking down plant food, which, in many if not all cases, is a lot easier on the body.

However, it sounds like you don't have any ethical feelings against meat, so it sounds like you can make a choice that just leaves you happy. I believe you can be healthy eating vegan, raw, veggie and omnivorous. I think being happy about your diet is the most important factor.

ITA. Also, people have lost the knowledge of cooking meat properly. It needs to be eaten with a bone broth or sauce made from broth, because the minerals help alkalinize the body, and the gelatin is extremely beneficial to digestion.

Here's a great article on broth: "Traditional Bone Broth in Modern Health and Disease."

[liamona]

Originally Posted by funchy

I googled and found a few famous vegans to take a closer look at. Honest question - do they look pale, yellowish, or sickly?

Great pictures—but I wonder how they look first thing in the morning, away from ideal lighting and Photoshop?

[funchy]

Originally Posted by liamona

Great pictures—but I wonder how they look first thing in the morning, away from ideal lighting and Photoshop?

Only way to find out is to sleep with one of them.

When you do, be sure to take pics so we can judge for ourselves. I wonder of Bryan Adams gets pillow-hair?

[liamona]

Originally Posted by funchy

Only way to find out is to sleep with one of them.

When you do, be sure to take pics so we can judge for ourselves. I wonder of Bryan Adams gets pillow-hair?

Good idea! I'm subscribing to this thread in hopes that someone will take you up on that most excellent idea.

[Majesticzero]

I know 2 vegans. They both are always ill and look very pale and yellowish. That's probably why I think every vegan is unhealthy. But ofcourse that just isn't true. Maybe I should try it for myself in the near future...

[painofsalvation]

Originally Posted by KeithS

Hmmm I don't really believe that meat can do that to you. On the other hand I have never seen a 'healthy' looking vegan. They are always pale and pasty, you might be different I don't know. Man should eat meat.

As I sit here at work, I look around and see 5 meat-eaters. 2 of them are fat, 2 are only fat around the waste and the other is as pale as milk. They are constantly sick. I'm the only vegan here and the only healthy person too. Since I don't get sick I'm getting an extra week off on my vacations.

Does this guy look unhealthy?

[openeyes]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

I'm on the right. ^

Note the yellow/gold. It's almost as if the sun is shining on him, while the person next to him is largely unaffected

[funchy]

Originally Posted by openeyes

Note the yellow/gold. It's almost as if the sun is shining on him, while the person next to him is largely unaffected

That's his inner glow from eating well and feeling so good.