The world's simplest cure for cancer

[Rawvolta]

"Fungus is a word that used to mean a species. Cancer cell have human DNA (which is a bit mutated). Is there are somewhere cells that don't have human DNA but some fungus DNA, that's a species. That species should have a name ".

You have courses in cell biology. I don't.
There is a book I mentioned before - please, read if You are interested.

I've never said : ALWAYS (!) will cure, but there are amazing experiences out there that show it can/does.
Does chemo heal it always?

Bear in mind, that wild animals don't get cancer, but they do get it while on human diet-period.

There is a nice saying : genetics so calls loads the guns, but the question is what pulls the trigger?

[Rawvolta]

Basically there is no cure out there in a sense of " cure ".
Your body has a way to figure things out and is a Master in it.
First of all one needs to clean the whole shi*** out and let the body take his own trip into healing.

[Rawvolta]

I am saying : get powerful and clean this sh** out .

What are you trying to ADD into this discussion, Brutha ?

[Rawvolta]

Just a piece about the food :
" After a meal of denatured foodstuffs filled with colloids close to assembling into mold, fungus, and yeast, a person's blood can resemble that of a person with cancer. Pork, wheat, corn syrup, rice, certain mushrooms, dead salt and cooked flesh are foods that cause people to have characteristic L-formed acid-fast-cell-wall deficient bacteria in the blood for some time after ingestiong them ".
Secrets of an Alkaline Body, David Jubb, PhD

We now know that there is an immune response after one eats cooked meal.

It just shows that food yes, is important and can be/needs to be a part of healing process.

[Brutha]

"Therefore, there is only one cause of cancer: candida, which, according to the anatomical branch concerned causes different histological reactions. This is the reason why there are so many types of tumours."
That what the person who wrote your book "cancer is fungus". Candida is a fungus, and the one that the guy is concerned about.

It also includes the nice passage:
"We make no claims concerning health & disease in relation to usage of this book. The information we provide is for educational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Users assume all responsibility for the application of the content on themselves. The information and products which on this website are reproduced are not mend to replace and/or to ignore the advice of a practicing physician."

What are you trying to ADD into this discussion, Brutha ?

Truth. You believe into a theory just because you like the end result (that it says that a good died will cure cancer) instead of it making sense.

In Warburgs time we didn't even know how DNA worked. In the last decades we gained a lot of analytic tools that allow us to look into cells.
Today a theory about cancer has to should somehow explain those things we see when we look into cancer cells to be worthy of my attention.

[Fullcrum]

What Brutha says makes logical sense.

Nevertheless, too many people have completely cured themselves of cancer through diet alone to discount the profound impact of what we eat.

[Rawvolta]

Hey, Fullcrum, I am with you.
And Brutha, brother in this discussion, I don't understand the "TRUTH" part. It seems like your TRUTH might be a pretext to maintain the addictions to food.

And it seems like we are looking for "weak points " in our discussion ( Brutha and me ), which I don't like and am leaving it alone now.

I've seen a lot of logical sense in this world and I've heard that in hospitals and from M.D.s.
The life of most of them does not look too healthy.

That is why I am starting my Juice Feasting tomorrow.
Wish me luck!

[funchy]

Originally Posted by Rawvolta

Or - if THEY ( because THEY have a power to find the answer for US ) will figure out how to not get cavities anymore...
Common... THEY don't want you to be well and healthy, so there won't be anybody who will get wealthy buy helping others ( finding a cause of cancer or whatever ) They want send people for expensive chemos...

Who is this "they" ? Do you feel it's an intentional conspiracy to keep people sick with cancer?

I do think there is lots of money to be made off diet, supplement, and "natural" treatments. Look at how many billions of dollars worth of supplements are sold each year: no quality control, little or no scientific proof, and none of them are sold proven to cure anything. People buy them because they're "natural", but who knows if they do anything (or might have any negative side effects)

I am happy not to worry about candida;-)
I said cancer is fungus. What is funny the test AMAS says about potential fungus in a body and therefor - cancer.

Candida does not create the low oxygen environment.
The man-made low oxygen environment creates candida.

That's not what all the candida sites I looked at say.

Candida is a normally occurring yeast that lives in small amounts in places like your gut. Supposedly with the wrong kind of diet or with certain health ailments, it multiplies and spreads and makes one ill. A diet very high in simple carbohydrates feeds candida.

Maybe I am confused what people mean when they're saying "low oxygen environment"? Inside your body, there isn't bubbles of air. The oxygen your cells get is transported by the hemoglobin protein on the red blood cells. If oxygen is all it takes to kill cancer cells, the exposure to blood should do it. In reality that's the opposite: growing tumors need that blood supply.

From a biology standpoint: The current definition of cancer is essentially a "disease of cell division -- a failure of cell division control". It's actually many different diseases depending on the tissue affected.

Cell division control is checked at three check points in the cell cycle. One of the main players is gene p53 which is essential for proper G1 checkpoint. The p53 gene directs manufacture of protein p53 which checks the DNA integrity. If damage is found, it stops the cell division and activates repair enzymes. If the damage cannot be fixed, p53 sets off the self-destruct sequence for the bad cell.

Gene damage is what can be concluded as the cause of cancer. There are other genes (proto-oncogenes) that can, when damaged, trigger uncontrolled cell growth.

If we go with the yeast theory, then perhaps the connection is that candida is doing DNA damage to cells around it. (I am not yet convinced of this)

If we go with the low-oxygen theory, it doesn't make sense. Lack of oxygen halts metabolic processes and may kill a cell, but I don't see proof it damages DNA or interferes with the cell's checkpoints.

Can you explain how a processed-food, high-sugar diet creates the "low oxygen environment"? In biological terms, how does this occur in the cell?


I am not dismissing you completely. I am just looking for clarification.

And I definitely agree that good diet is important. You are what you eat.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Rawvolta

This is an Institute that helped tousends of people : Ann Wigmore Institute .:. Home Page

Shouldn't she have lived longer than 85 then?

[Rawvolta]

Did you think about an accident?
She died in an electrical fire at the Ann Wigmore Foundation in Boston..

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Rawvolta

Did you think about an accident?
She died in an electrical fire at the Ann Wigmore Foundation in Boston..

I did think of that, but dismissed it. Too quickly, I see!

[gr8tocre8]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

Documentary coming out that might interest many here...

Movie Trailers - The Beautiful Truth

There's been a cure for both cancer and HIV for years, and you can pick up the recipe for both in most alternative book stores. They are:

"The cure for all cancers" by Hulda Clark
"The cure for all HIV" by Hulda Clark

In each book, she takes 150 patients with early to late stages of Cancer/HIV and within 6 weeks, there is NO trace of disease in the patient's bodies.

Even though I've never had HIV or cancer, I've done the specific cure (just to clean out), and I've never felt healthier in my whole life.

Worth checking out.

[funchy]

Originally Posted by gr8tocre8

There's been a cure for both cancer and HIV for years, and you can pick up the recipe for both in most alternative book stores. They are:

"The cure for all cancers" by Hulda Clark
"The cure for all HIV" by Hulda Clark

In each book, she takes 150 patients with early to late stages of Cancer/HIV and within 6 weeks, there is NO trace of disease in the patient's bodies

Anecdotal evidence is not objective proof. I would like to see these studies and the bloowork at the end of 6 weeks proving everything was normal. If this indeed cures HIV, it would change the world. Why isn't anyone doing a scientific study on it?

The idea the HIV virus can be cured with by zapping dental work with a Zapplicator gizmo and avoiding some chemicals sounds...well... radical. The very nature of the HIV virus is that it destroys your own immune system. Lack of pollutants does not stop the virus from replicating; the virus is still thee.

Statements like "start plate zapping 8 hours a day" confuse me. Foods and body parts need to be "zapped" throughout the day.

The bigger picture is if you believe this method, you can't believe the Raw diet. This method bans food the raw diet says is good (eg a whole list of fruts/veggies) and it's big on cooking things.

[gr8tocre8]

Originally Posted by funchy

Anecdotal evidence is not objective proof. I would like to see these studies and the bloowork at the end of 6 weeks proving everything was normal. If this indeed cures HIV, it would change the world. Why isn't anyone doing a scientific study on it?

The government isn't any more ready for a cure for cancer or HIV than they are for a fuel alternative that replaces gasoline. There's too much money, too many jobs and too much at stake. Just think of the billions upon billions of dollars the pharmaceutical and insurance industries earn every year from cancer prevention and treatment. A cure for Cancer would instantly remove all those revenues from the government, and they are not going to allow that.

The author of the book in question got in a lot of trouble for writing those books. The "powers that be" did indeed check her results out and were disturbed by what they found. Their harassment of her got so bad that she eventually chose to move to Mexico. She currently resides in Tijuana, Mexico, where she has a cancer/HIV clinic.

[ginkgo]

John Hopkins University School of Medicine has bred broccoli sprouts that are extra high in sulforaphane. They found that this fights cancer. They patented these broccoli sprouts and they are sold in stores as Brocco Sprouts.

I bet a mostly raw diet greatly reduces your chances of getting cancer. Then you might have heard about the herb that the National Cancer Institute found kills cancer cells. They followed protocal and sent it to the drug companies. It has been tested in test tubes and patented. It is the most promising Cancer Cure.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by ginkgo

John Hopkins University School of Medicine has bred broccoli sprouts extra high in sulforaphane. They found that this fights cancer. They patented these broccoli sprouts and they are sold in stores as Brocco Sprouts.

that something "fights" something else, does NOT mean
the sufferers, using it, will therefrom heal...
&
HEALing is the Intended outcome, are you aware??

Originally Posted by ginkgo

I bet
a mostly raw diet greatly reduces your chances of getting cancer.

and your "statistics" for -
1. a mostly raw diet
2. greatly reduces
3. your chances of
4. getting cancer
are? - what? - Where is your Evidence-strategy?

Supposing, (any of such baseless claims) you "bet" on,
someone, actually tried, only to die. - Would you then, at last STOP....................?

Originally Posted by ginkgo

re the herb that the National Cancer Institute found kills cancer cells.
They followed protocal and sent it to the drug companies.
It has been tested in test tubes and patented.
It is the most promising Cancer Cure.

Let me repeat:
that some agent "patented, & promises" something, does NOT mean
the sufferers, using it, will therefrom heal...
&
HEALing is the Intended outcome, are you aware??

Originally Posted by ginkgo

They tested over 20,000 different plants and found that the leaves of the graviola tree,
that grows in the Amazon rainforest, can kill cancer cells.

In other words, it is a great cancer cure.

Here we go again:
that some agent "can kill" something, does NOT mean
the sufferers, using it, will therefrom heal...
&
HEALing is the Intended outcome, are you aware??
in other words,
jumping from can, to "great cure": amounts 99+% of the time, to folly.

Originally Posted by ginkgo

They sent this information to the drug companies.

A drug company spent millions, of dollars testing graviola and found it to be the "magic bullet."

after spending whatever sums, if any, of money,
Of course!, they're gonna say they "found" ... (whatever).

Don't you understand $business$ ? - you know PROFIT...
------
(and the people, still stuck cancering: you know their LIFE-QUALITY -> How many remotely care....)

Originally Posted by ginkgo

That is something that would kill only cancer cells, but not the healthy cells.
In other words, the drug company determined that graviola is the best cure for cancer.
It turned out to be the "cure of the plague of the 20th century."

Finally! we agree on 1 thing: plaque. What do I mean?

The plaque, of millions of people, concocting baseless, harmfull claims,
about a (cancering...condition/strategy) too many are clueless about. -

Let alone, actually skilled and experienced helping such sufferers HEAL

To gain this, make at least 3 paradigm shifts.

.

[ginkgo]

Diet is the most important factor in obesity and type 2 diabetes (they go together), heart attacks, strokes and cancer!