Dr. Hawkins, Muscle Strength and Applied Kinesiology.

[Curtis2011]

If anyone has read a book by Dr. David Hawkins, they will know what I'm talking about.

For anyone else, I'll sum up my primary point: Applied Kinesiology basically states that a positive influence makes the body's musculature become stronger (in the moment), and a negative influence makes the body's muscles become weaker (in the moment).

Every time I do pushups for my 100 pushup challenge workout I listen to positive music that I have playing in the background and I think it really does make the pushups easier to do.



As a little experimental idea I challenge/suggest any of you that exercises or lifts weights to listen to positive music while you do so, and feel for a difference.


>>>Now, just because you LIKE a certain type of music or song, that does NOT make it positive. It is inherently positive or negative.

If you cannot tell the difference easily, a safe bet is to listen to classical music because that is pretty much always a positive thing.

[Ikkyo]

Originally Posted by Curtis2011

If anyone has read a book by Dr. David Hawkins, they will know what I'm talking about.

For anyone else, I'll sum up my primary point: Applied Kinesiology basically states that a positive influence makes the body's musculature become stronger (in the moment), and a negative influence makes the body's muscles become weaker (in the moment).

Every time I do pushups for my 100 pushup challenge workout I listen to positive music that I have playing in the background and I think it really does make the pushups easier to do.



As a little experimental idea I challenge/suggest any of you that exercises or lifts weights to listen to positive music while you do so, and feel for a difference.


>>>Now, just because you LIKE a certain type of music or song, that does NOT make it positive. It is inherently positive or negative.

If you cannot tell the difference easily, a safe bet is to listen to classical music because that is pretty much always a positive thing.

I'm halfway the book and I'm finding it really interesting. Is there any database of positive music or products? I mean someone should create a review website based on those calculations.

Is it hard to learn this?

[BillyTheAdult]

I have read a great deal of Hawkins and as far as his spiritual teachings go I think he is the best.

As a general rule if you like it and it sounds good, he would test it negative.

Obviously even though I like Hawkins I disagree with him to some extent. He basically says that any rock, rap, pop, or any kind of modern music is bad (in a nutshell)

[Quantum Blue]

Originally Posted by BillyTheAdult

As a general rule if you like it and it sounds good, he would test it negative.

Obviously even though I like Hawkins I disagree with him to some extent. He basically says that any rock, rap, pop, or any kind of modern music is bad (in a nutshell)

Excellent point, Billy. The key factor is the physiological impact of the individual's emotions on muscle performance, not the subject matter that got him to think positively. That would be making an indirect moral judgement, not a direct scientific observation. What matters is what turns you on and gets you pumped during your workout.

A great example of how responsive the human body is to thought is sex: men can achieve an erection by entertaining only one sexual thought. Some men are turned on by busty women, others are turned on by busty women getting beaten. It doesn't matter what moral implications society has arrived at, the man's body doesn't care. Sex, music, colors, we all have preferences, we all know what feels good to us. But to say that we must all engage only in the missionary position, while listening to Bach, and do it on pink sheets for the rest of our lives in order to be "healthy" is rather dogmatic and narrow-minded, not to mention blatantly wrong for a large group of people.

The most poignant aspect of music I've found is not so much the content but the beat--if you want to get "up," listen to stuff that's beating faster than your heart is at the moment. If you want to calm down, listen to tunes that are going slower. Your heart will entrain to the ambient beat around it. That's why I can't stand to be around certain machines that have moving parts going at certain RPMs, they are out of synch with me and make me twitchy. But does that make them bad? No. They just aren't right for me. It's also a big reason why a walk in nature calms most people down: very soothing, slow beat.

Along the same vein, people will gravitate to things that mirror their current feeling. When you are happy, you may find a singing toddler cute but on a bad day, full of rage, you may just as easily fantasize about that same toddler wearing several layers of duct tape. When you are sad, somber tunes feel good, when you are in love, all the sappy love songs suddenly make sense. When you are royally pissed off, you put in a CD you can yell along with so you can expunge the giant amount of energy you've got built up inside. Thus a few scientists may say, "There, you see? You only listen to bad stuff when you are in a bad mood." But that would still be incorrect because I feel strongest and happiest when I am belting out the lines to an 80s rock band on my way to climb a mountain. If I listened to Mozart all the way there, I'd have one crappy hike, it's happened before.

I'm a body builder and all I've ever needed in the gym is foam earplugs. I get pumped by hearing the big guys near me working hard and moving the weights around. We enjoy chatting and teasing the hell out of each other, revving each other up. I do not, however, enjoy the music that is piped into the weight room. (Oldies rock is tolerable but over-loud hip hop incites me to kill.) The earplugs drown just enough out that I can hear my own breath working hard and that excites me plenty. I'm not quite to the Zen state where I can simply block out extraneous sound so I keep earplugs handy wherever I go.

I've done quite a bit of research on the mind-body connection and how to stimulate and relax certain aspects of physiology at will using the five senses. It's amazingly effective in healing, athletic performance, mental concentration, and receiving energetic information, such as clairvoyance. My goal is to do it all on my own with a single thought and not rely so much on external stimuli to get the thought going but in a pinch, there's always Van Halen.

QB

[Just Passing Through]

I suspect this whole positive negative thing has more to do with the state someone is in and how they approach something than things being absolutely positive and negative. There have been times I've had people come after me with intent to do harm and I was enjoying it and there have been times this happened where I hated it and was enraged and full of hatred. I could listen to the same song in 10 diferent moods, and each time its a different experience. I find when people start labelling things as positive or negative its just a way to assert their own half baked opinoin

[ginkgo]

Do you believe in the witchcraft part of it with your subconscious mind? This says that if you have a bottle of an unknown substance and are holding the bottle, your whatever will know if it is postitve or negative for you even though it is in a bottle and will have this effect on you.

So you can hold product A and then product B and your body will know which is better since the better one will make you stronger even if it is in a bottle. Do you believe in this stuff? Then they even use this so that you can know anything like what horse will win a race etc.

[joelr]

If Hawkins says modern rock, rap, etc, is bad then that means he calibrated it as bad or low on the calibration scale.
He believes in absolute truth so to believe in him means you cannot refute what he says. Otherwise the whole thing breaks down.

Studies have been done, you can find them online, that suggest calibration is not a real thing.

Like Ginko says it is real easy to test, just fill a non-see through bottle with an unhealthy substance like ciggaretts and another with something healthy like some vegetable peices, and calibrate them.
Or do it with 10 bottles. Enough times so you can clearly see random chance patterns at work.

It will never work out that you'll calibrate the bad stuff low a consistent # of times.
These experiments have already been done. They always produce randomness.
Experts either fail or refuse the tests.
I even did them after me and a g-friend went to one of these guys for her blood sugar problems.

We set up a small experiment and saw no results but the doctor had told us we could do it ourselves.

[secrets0stolen]

I actually think muscle testing may have some truth to it, but I doubt calibration does.

When I was very young I had a bunch of health problems. Some of those were allergies, and I got them tested by a conventional doctor--it was horrible, 52 shots and many of them swelled up. Later that year, my mom went took me to a TCM practitioner who did muscle testing on me. I wasn't even old enough to understand what was supposed to happen--let alone remember all of my allergies, but it got the same results. That makes me think there may be something to it. However, I really don't have a use for it now so I don't care.

[Ikkyo]

A friend of mine, a total non believer I might add went to a kinesiologist to get medication for his 1 year old daughter.

He had to hold her hand while holding his thumb and finger together as hard as possible, the girl obviously couldn't hold her finger as she is only 1 year old.

Then the kinesiologist went with his hand over a box with pills while trying to break the connection between his thumb and finger. My friend who is a very big and strong person said he was able to keep the connection closed until the kinesiologist moved over a specific pill. When that happened my friend couldn't hold his thumb and finger together.

I'm talking about a guy who thought all this stuff is a load of crap. I have heard similar stories.

If this works then it must also work with a book or anything else.