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Old 06-25-2008, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New diet going around! lol Its been featured on Good Morning America,and in Prevention magazine...basically it says even if you are skinny and in the normal weight range,if you have fat around your stomach,that's not good,even if you weigh 110 pounds.

Anyway they say as long as you eat some type of monosaturated fat in each meal,it will target belly fat. Sounds too good to be true,so i ordered the book and im gonna try it Anyone else heard of it or tried it? There's also a special concoction that you make up and drink,to eliminate bloating,which is half of my problem and nothing else has ever worked.

I figured i'll do anything to get rid of this stomach,since its the ONLY fat i have on my body,and this diet specifically targets that. Not saying its going to work,but i figure $25 for the book is worth taking the chance. If anyone is interested,i'll keep this thread updated on my results. But my book wont come for a week though so,stay tuned
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah you should try it, I'm having the same problem, I can't get rid of my stomach fat! No matter how much I exercise and eat well. I've heard that it's because of too much acid in the body. That it is a part of the body's defence mechanism to hold on to the fat so arteries don't get burned because of the acid. Going on a raw food diet would no doubt resolve this problem i think!
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Yeah you should try it, I'm having the same problem, I can't get rid of my stomach fat! No matter how much I exercise and eat well. I've heard that it's because of too much acid in the body. That it is a part of the body's defence mechanism to hold on to the fat so arteries don't get burned because of the acid. Going on a raw food diet would no doubt resolve this problem i think!
I have never heard of that acid theory,but who knows! Yeah i'm sure a raw food diet would take care of it as well,but i cant give up my meat,chocolate,pasta,and desserts! On this diet,dark chocolate is actually required,once a day!
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Dark chocolate gets rid of mah bellyfat?
How much should one eat. Just a little piece per meal?
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Hell, if dark chocolate is the solution, I need to start working on that every day!

I'm 6'7" and weigh a tad over 200, and I've been around that same size since I was 16. Though I've always had a little belly fat, and I cannot get rid of it. I'll take any tips for that!
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basically it says even if you are skinny and in the normal weight range,if you have fat around your stomach,that's not good,even if you weigh 110 pounds.
When they say it's not good I presume they stated some actually consequences, what where they?

Also how much belly fat can you have before it's "bad". I'm right at the bottom of the healthy weight range but still have some belly fat. Is there a standard way to measure fat on the stomach?
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Old 06-26-2008, 01:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It isnt just dark chocolate,its 4 things,one was nuts/seeds,one was olive oil,i forget the other ones. Avacado's...i forget what else. And it gives amounts,i forgot what they were,but if one of these are eaten in each meal,that's supposedly the trick.

I read somewhere what the waist measurement has to be for it to be considered too much fat,i want to say its 34 inches for women,i never looked at the men's number,sorry! They said fat in that area contributes to heart disease more than fat anywhere else on the body.

Once i get my book i'll let you guys know exactly what it says!
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What's wrong with just using an abwheel?
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Because using an abwheel would not be cheating.
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Because using an abwheel would not be cheating.
Especially when you get into your late 30's and 40's. I work out in the gym 4 to 5 times a week and finally realized I have to start watching the food that I eat. If you don't know, you young'uns will find out. And, there's nothing wrong with improving your diet. I've recently done a little research on it and nuts, avocados, fiber, and a few other things are necessary for good digestion as well as getting rid of the fat, so there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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What is the name of the book and do you have links to more information?
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What is the name of the book and do you have links to more information?
Here's the official website:

Welcome to Flat Belly Diet

I ordered my book off Amazon though cuz then you dont get signed up for the newsletter and i didnt want to join the site anyway,so i'll just read the book.

Never heard of the Abwheel,but this diet is all about correct digestion and healthy fats,not muscle. I have plenty of muscle in my stomach,its just buried under the fat. More working out doesnt get rid of the fat,thats why its so hard to get rid of and thats why its been there my entire life since i was a teenager.
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What's wrong with just using an abwheel?
wellll anyone can easily build that themselves! :P
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Yeah you should try it, I'm having the same problem, I can't get rid of my stomach fat! No matter how much I exercise and eat well. I've heard that it's because of too much acid in the body. That it is a part of the body's defence mechanism to hold on to the fat so arteries don't get burned because of the acid. Going on a raw food diet would no doubt resolve this problem i think!
Hi everyone,

I will try this one, I'm really conscious with my stomach and I don’t want belly get fat.

Thanks and have a nice day.
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wellll anyone can easily build that themselves! :P
Sure -- but buying one is only $9!
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could i get a quick clarification from those who've looked at the diet properly? is it claimed here that if you already have a healthy weight and a generally healthy diet, but have some unwanted bellyfat, eating a square of dark chocolate (or other source o monosaturated fat) with each meal, without making any other changes to your diet (apart from possibly cutting other things out so your calorie intake doesn't change) will reduce that bellyfat?

overall, i'm very happy with my diet and level of health and fitness, so wouldn't want to completely overhaul it, but i do have some unwanted bellyfat, so any small change i could make to tackle that would be most welcome

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could i get a quick clarification from those who've looked at the diet properly? is it claimed here that if you already have a healthy weight and a generally healthy diet, but have some unwanted bellyfat, eating a square of dark chocolate (or other source o monosaturated fat) with each meal, without making any other changes to your diet (apart from possibly cutting other things out so your calorie intake doesn't change) will reduce that bellyfat?
Well there is a limit on the calories you can take in each day,so they have sample menus on there so you can see what other foods you can eat,and if you join the website or buy the book,they give you a ton of recipes. I dont think you can simply add some of that good fat in with each meal AND keep eating cheesecake,Big Mac's and doughnuts every day.
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Localized fat burning is a myth. 'Nuff said.

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Localized fat burning is a myth. 'Nuff said.

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Well,the way i see it,if you can work out and still have a stomach,obviously something is making it stay there,and it isnt from a lack of working out. I will try anything though cuz nothing has worked so far.

That website looked like it was more about bodybuilding than losing a pot belly!
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Well,the way i see it,if you can work out and still have a stomach,obviously something is making it stay there,and it isnt from a lack of working out. I will try anything though cuz nothing has worked so far.

That website looked like it was more about bodybuilding than losing a pot belly!
The reason why you can have belly fat while working out is that the belly is one of the last areas that your body will shed fat from. Which means you haven't been working out and losing weight long enough for your belly to be affected, or you're doing enough exercise and eating properly to get rid of most of your fat but not enough to get rid of the last bits of it.

The bottom line is weight-loss, especially in areas like the belly, takes time, patience, and dedication. Something else to consider is that if you have to 'cheat' to get the fat off, it's a lot more likely that you're not at a fitness and/or proper eating level that you can keep that fat off.
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Well,the way i see it,if you can work out and still have a stomach,obviously something is making it stay there,and it isn't from a lack of working out. I will try anything though cuz nothing has worked so far.

That website looked like it was more about bodybuilding than losing a pot belly!

The website is about bodybuilding and sculpting, and it's basic information is perfect for those who need to lose that potbelly, which in fact is a form of "bodybuilding". The term doesn't have to mean packing on pounds of muscle and getting ripped. It's simply the practice of developing your body to the point you feel good about it.

Having belly fat, even though you weigh lbs doesn't necessarily mean you are unhealthy or at risk. The type of body fat is also important to consider. Subcutaneous belly fat (or thigh fat, arm fat, back fat, etc.) lies under the skin and over the muscle. Visceral fat lies inside the abdominal cavity and surrounds and cushions your abdominal organs. This type of fat in excess can give the appearance of the textbook "potbelly" and has a greater chance of being found caked inside your arteries. This doesn't make carrying a spare tire and love handles an OK thing, but visceral fat is the greater evil of the two. Either way, it would benefit you to lose both.

Now, where you store fat and what type of fat you have is hereditary. Some people are naturally "ripped" while others always seem to be fighting the flab. The typical diet and exercise will get those people only so far unless they elect to drastically alter their diet, exercise regimen, and hence entire lifestyle.

Simply downing a square of dark chocolate, while considered a "power food" in my book and a healthy practice I myself indulge in, will not magically melt your unwanted fat away. The chocolate is healthy not so much for the fat content but for it's healthy dose of flavonoids - also found in red wine, tea, onions, and citrus.

You can create a metabolic shift in your body by first eating 4-6 smaller meals, instead of 3 large ones. It may help to look at it as 3 meals with 2 or 3 snacks throughout. Second, excluding animal fats and hydrogenated oils, and getting your daily allotment of fat from healthy sources like avocados, olive and canola oils, nuts/seeds, and cold water fish. Mono and polyunsaturated fats do help to liberate stored body fats to be metabolized - not to mention they prevent plaque build-up in your arteries.

In addition I recommend only whole grain, fruit and vegetable sources for carbohydrates. Eat the majority of carbs early in the day and after your daily workout. Cut carbs out after 4PM and don't eat within 2 hours of going to bed - though if you tend to stay up more than 4 hours or so after your evening meal I would recommend a small meal of protein/healthy fats.

You will probably find these recommendations in the Flat Belly Diet and they are common themes in other diets like the Zone and South Beach - for good reason. Whatever you happen to call your particular diet these are great tips to live with whether trying to lose fat or not.

Also, spot reducing of particular body fat deposits is thought not to happen, though some recent research is suggesting otherwise. It's effects may not be noticeable for most anyways. If you happen to be down to that last stubborn 5-10 lbs of fat fitness professionals recommend spot training to firm and tone these areas. It just so happens that any exercise, whether spot training or whole body training, does have an effect on body fat - so you end up losing it either way. If spot training feels good and you think it benefits you, there is no reason not to do it. Just don't forgo it in lieu of whole body training which requires more effort produces the best overall results.

Hope this helps and that I haven't confused anyone. I do have a BS in Kinesiology/Exercise Physiology, so feel free to ask for more advice.

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I figured i'll do anything to get rid of this stomach,since its the ONLY fat i have on my body,and this diet specifically targets that. Not saying its going to work,but i figure $25 for the book is worth taking the chance. If anyone is interested,i'll keep this thread updated on my results. But my book wont come for a week though so,stay tuned
I'll give you better advice, for free. Don't get hyped up with 'quick fix' diets.

Here's the possible solution to your problem: Do daily stomach exercises and make sure you're not eating foods you're allergic to. Undigested foods can expand your stomach with fat and gas. Especially foods like gluten.

Does your family have a history of Celiac disease or other digestive problems like IBS, Candida, Colon Cancer, etc? Taking a bunch of different pills that may be conflicting?

(don't answer those here; it's for your own private knowledge)
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I'll give you better advice, for free. Don't get hyped up with 'quick fix' diets.

Here's the possible solution to your problem: Do daily stomach exercises and make sure you're not eating foods you're allergic to. Undigested foods can expand your stomach with fat and gas. Especially foods like gluten.

Does your family have a history of Celiac disease or other digestive problems like IBS, Candida, Colon Cancer, etc? Taking a bunch of different pills that may be conflicting?

(don't answer those here; it's for your own private knowledge)
Well i want to answer here in case someone else has the same issue,they can compare their answers to mine. I am not going to say this diet is a quick fix until i try it,then i'll let you know. I have never jumped on any diet bandwagon yet but this one is worth trying,since it "targets" the stomach unlike other diets. I have done daily stomach excersises (never worked) and i've never been allergic to any food that i know of. And no my family has no history of any of those digestive problems you mentioned.

And to Stu...i get what youre saying,how the belly is the last bit of fat to go,but i am dangerously close to looking anorexic. I can wrap my thumb and pinky around my wrists and they touch. I am skinnier than teenage girls,skinnier than my 60 year old mom,and my dad worries that i'm not eating enough. This belly should not be here,i dont know what its waiting for LOL
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I can wrap my thumb and pinky around my wrists and they touch.
Jaysus, I can do it too. Is it abnormal then?
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I'm really skinny but I still have some belly fat. Just can't get rid of it. I do LOTS of stomach exercises and eat pretty healthily. Still, I'm getting better! I believe I'll get there in the end.
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And to Stu...i get what youre saying,how the belly is the last bit of fat to go,but i am dangerously close to looking anorexic. I can wrap my thumb and pinky around my wrists and they touch.
I can too, with over a centimeter to spare. However you didn't seem to pick up on the intention of my post. You may be not wanting to 'jump the bandwagon' as you say but you should not ignore what you are already eating. Obviously something in your diet is contributing to your stomach problem and covering it up with possible and temporary 'cures' aren't going to be a long-term solution.

See if you're allergic or intolerant to any foods. Get blood work and allergy tests (you should be doing this anyways...) Use an elimination diet if you have to.

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I am skinnier than teenage girls,skinnier than my 60 year old mom,and my dad worries that i'm not eating enough. This belly should not be here,i dont know what its waiting for LOL
It's waiting for you to take a better look at what you're already consuming. Do you have a food journal? If not then I suggest using one.

Learn more about your body and you'll find you don't need miracle cures to fix yourself. The moment you go out of whack and feel less-than-best is when you'll become aware of what you need to do in order to bring your body back to an optimum state.
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I have never jumped on any diet bandwagon yet but this one is worth trying,since it "targets" the stomach unlike other diets.
Like I said, logalized fat burning is a myth. Well, actually, you can stimulate it, but the effect of that is almost non- existent. Furthermore, listen to what Zwynd and artrenegade said, they speak truth.

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Well,the way i see it,if you can work out and still have a stomach,obviously something is making it stay there,and it isnt from a lack of working out.
I never said it was. But maybe you're exercising WRONG. For example, do you do HIIT or low intensity steady-state cardio? Do you have strength training included in your workouts? Maybe some muscle-building?

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Edit: I see now that you're skinny as ****. Maybe you aren't eating enough, and that's why that bellyfat ain't going away. Start eating more (2-3000 cals, build up slowly if you aren't anywhere near this number), and start exercising more (and harder).

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Edit: I see now that you're skinny as ****. Maybe you aren't eating enough, and that's why that bellyfat ain't going away. Start eating more (2-3000 cals, build up slowly if you aren't anywhere near this number), and start exercising more (and harder).
TRUE, If your body is sensing famine because you are not consuming enough calories (and in the right proportion) it will pack whatever it can get into fat stores. You need to feed your body with enough calories to maintain what you feel is your ideal lean body weight, and more if you are working out on a regular basis. This may help your body release it's hold on that last stash of fat. And remember what I said about eating smaller meals throughout the day. When your body senses a steady constant influx of nutrients it will come out of that famine mode and not be so apt to "save for a rainy day" as they say.

Finding your BMR (or Basal Metabolic Rate) is simple. Just use this equation:


HA HA - Just kidding. Though that is the actual formula. Do a search for "BMR Calculator" and find a site that will calculate that for you. If you happen to be moderately active (workout 3 times a week) then multiply that number by 1.5 to see how many additional calories you should be getting.

Muscle is your greatest weapon against bodyfat. I would suggest dialing in your calorie intake, and learning more about HIIT training, which will burn calories, build muscle, and raise your metabolism.
The difference between cutting enough calories for fat loss as opposed to going into a famine mode is a very fine line. It's better to eat adequately for your ideal weight and then excercise from there.
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I can too, with over a centimeter to spare. However you didn't seem to pick up on the intention of my post. You may be not wanting to 'jump the bandwagon' as you say but you should not ignore what you are already eating. Obviously something in your diet is contributing to your stomach problem and covering it up with possible and temporary 'cures' aren't going to be a long-term solution.

See if you're allergic or intolerant to any foods. Get blood work and allergy tests (you should be doing this anyways...) Use an elimination diet if you have to.



It's waiting for you to take a better look at what you're already consuming. Do you have a food journal? If not then I suggest using one.

Learn more about your body and you'll find you don't need miracle cures to fix yourself. The moment you go out of whack and feel less-than-best is when you'll become aware of what you need to do in order to bring your body back to an optimum state.
I did a food journal for a week once but i dont know how that can help me cuz i already know what foods i eat. And its not like my fat goes away or gets worse from certain foods,its ALWAYS there,so,no matter how my diet fluctuates,nothing changes anyway. The reason i want this book is because it gives recipes of what you CAN eat,so i'll compare that to how i eat now,and i'll know what i should be doing and shouldn't be doing.
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Originally Posted by SmellyOrc View Post
Like I said, logalized fat burning is a myth. Well, actually, you can stimulate it, but the effect of that is almost non- existent. Furthermore, listen to what Zwynd and artrenegade said, they speak truth.
I am listening to everything,but i still am going to read this book when i get it,and i'll try it...if it doesnt work,i am not out anything cuz i'm sure i'll have learned some more healthy eating habits.

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I never said it was. But maybe you're exercising WRONG. For example, do you do HIIT or low intensity steady-state cardio? Do you have strength training included in your workouts? Maybe some muscle-building?
I've done it all. Seriously i've done the stairmaster,dancing,free weights,resistance bands,sit ups,yoga,walking,jumping on a trampoline,not to mention all day long at my job i am lifting heavy boxes and moving almost constantly.

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Edit: I see now that you're skinny as ****. Maybe you aren't eating enough, and that's why that bellyfat ain't going away. Start eating more (2-3000 cals, build up slowly if you aren't anywhere near this number), and start exercising more (and harder).
Well,actually i eat more than anyone i know LOL I eat every 2-3 hours. I eat before bed. I worked at McDonalds for 5 years and i ate that food every day. My stomach never got bigger or smaller during that time either.
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