Go WITH coffee for the rest of your life.

[infinitethoughts]

benefits of coffee - Google Search

Information on Coffee with disease prevention benefits at MedicineNet.com
Coffee: The New Health Food?
"Want a drug that could lower your risk of diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and colon cancer? That could lift your mood and treat headaches? That could lower your risk of cavities?

If it sounds too good to be true, think again."

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Just STAY away from non-Organic.
Be mindful if you're using Tap water.

(And technically coffee's not a "drug". Its derived from a bean. Last I checked beans are classified as a food.)

[Fullcrum]

Caffeine is a drug, not coffee.

Interesting studies! I'll have to look more into it.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Fullcrum

Caffeine is a drug, not coffee.

I'll check them links out.

Okay, then your coffee has drugs.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Fullcrum

Caffeine is a drug, not coffee.

I'll check them links out.

I hear ya. But I kinda wonder about that word caffeine. But thats just me. I like to question the status quo.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

Okay, then your coffee has drugs.

Lol.

[Fullcrum]

Then again, everything has drugs, things that alter body metabolism.

So I wouldn't worry about it. Most people call caffeine a drug in the context of it's addictive qualities.

[Vantage72]

Lol. You can find as much negatives about coffee as positives.

I prefer to see information that shows both sides. Here's one I liked:
Is Coffee Good or Bad For You? The Pros & Cons of Coffee Drinking

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

benefits of coffee - Google Search

Information on Coffee with disease prevention benefits at MedicineNet.com
Coffee: The New Health Food?
"Want a drug that could lower your risk of diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and colon cancer? That could lift your mood and treat headaches? That could lower your risk of cavities?

If it sounds too good to be true, think again."

--

Just STAY away from non-Organic.
Be mindful if you're using Tap water.

(And technically coffee's not a "drug". Its derived from a bean. Last I checked beans are classified as a food.)

I believe coffee can be good for you, but some of the claims are unbelievable. More than 6 cups of coffee a day can't be good for you. That's too much. You'd be so wired and tired at the same time... your heart would be racing... and the percentages on the reduction of risk for parkinsons? How can they put a number on that unless they knew who would have gotten parkinsons? I mean, the percentage of people who get it in the first place is already pretty small. I know that some companies put out exadurated studies to make their product more marketable or to protect their product from attack by hiding the unbiased studies in a sea of confusing or skewed studies. They hire doctors to say whatever they want... It just seems so fantastic I'm finding it hard to believe it's a fair study.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Vantage72

Lol. You can find as much negatives about coffee as positives.

I prefer to see information that shows both sides. Here's one I liked:
Is Coffee Good or Bad For You? The Pros & Cons of Coffee Drinking

Thanks for that Vantage.

Seems the pros outweigh the cons. (Also most of the cons were because of drinking in excess. Which of course is true for everything.)

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

.. It just seems so fantastic I'm finding it hard to believe it's a fair study.

Well I could say the same for all the "studies" that say coffee is bad for you.


In this day and age, can we trust "studies" is the question.

[Fullcrum]

Another way to find out is the try it for yourself. Try a one month trial drinking 2 or 3 cups a day, everyday and see how you feel. You'd probably want to try without much sugar or cream. Then try one month with nothing. Nada. See how the body responds.

[Vantage72]

Originally Posted by Fullcrum

Another way to find out is the try it for yourself.

That's the best way. Experiment. Test it for yourself.

[VacMan]

I'm on my 4th cup right now

R..r..r...r.r..r..r...reaaally!

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by VacMan

I'm on my 4th cup right now

R..r..r...r.r..r..r...reaaally!

Lol.....

[The David]

I seem to do best in life when I'm staying active and not drinking coffee. However, due to my seeming inability to do the former, I often settle for the coffee. It helps keep my emotional energy flowing when everything else is dragging me down. Ideally, I would not need it.

'Health benefits' aren't as relevant for the people who drink coffee and realize it causes insomnia, irritability, or whatever else for them. It's best to drink or avoid coffee on the basis of its more obvious effects.

[Christian223]

I have been testing what foods make be feel sleepy, and coffee was one of those foods, so i stoped drinking it a few weeks ago, i feel much better now that i donk drink coffee

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Christian223

I have been testing what foods make be feel sleepy, and coffee was one of those foods, so i stoped drinking it a few weeks ago, i feel much better now that i donk drink coffee

What kind where you drinking ? Organic or non-organic?

[Vantage72]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Thanks for that Vantage.

Seems the pros outweigh the cons. (Also most of the cons were because of drinking in excess. Which of course is true for everything.)

Well it really depends on how hard you search I believe. Someone wanting to find pros will find pros, someone wanting to find cons, will find cons. I was just reading up and saw this one, that i had not seen before:
The results indicate that coffee drinking seems to increase the risk of antihypertensive drug treatment, and this risk was higher in subjects with low-to-moderate coffee intakes;
Coffee consumption and the incidence of antihypert...[Am J Clin Nutr. 2007] - PubMed Result

But all these research is really not so important imo. For example: my risk of Parkinson's is now 0,6% statistically. If I drink coffee it may be 0,4%. I don't really care about that.

The things that coffee does to my state of mind are much more important imo. However these effects are not quantifiable in scientific research (yet).

[openeyes]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Coffee: The New Health Food?
"Want a drug that could lower your risk of diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and colon cancer? That could lift your mood and treat headaches?

Similar could be (and has been) said of cigarettes. Going to make myself a cup of espresso now

[Christian223]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

What kind where you drinking ? Organic or non-organic?

Its says 100% pure coffe on the can, nothing else that could make me think its not organic.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Christian223

Its says 100% pure coffe on the can, nothing else that could make me think its not organic.

Ok. That's not organic. It has to say directly on there, organic.

Here's a brief info on it.

The production of foods in the last 20 years or so has turned towards using synthetic pesticides and synthethic additives in order to increase production and shelf life.
Believe it or not some of these chemicals added are actually Benzoate derivative, which is ultimately (Benzine) Petroleum derivative.

Ingesting synthetic chemicals, obviously is detrimental to the body. The argrument goes from the Chemical industry that the amounts are so small, it has no effect. But of course they're arguing from a Profit/loss business standpoint.

Organic foods have developed to counter this dangerous practice. It seems this is mainly centered in the U.S. In other countries, the term "organic" does not even exist, because they don't engage in this practice.

(This is why Americans are obese. The body cannot break down the chemicals and they stay in the body.)

Once you switch ALL your food intake, to foods without chemicals added, you will never be able to eat processed food ever again. It'll always have a chemical aftertaste.

I drink 100% organic coffee with distilled water (our local water supply is filled with dangerous chemicals also) and feel great. No jitters, etc.

[jpmcgrew]

hmm...does Starbucks make organic coffee yet? I prefer starbucks and Seattles Best, but I don't know if I've ever seen either one of them carry organic coffee.

I always felt that coffee was great for me (I've been convinced for years that it's been a great immunity booster before I ever read anything about anti-oxidants).

[Christian223]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Ok. That's not organic. It has to say directly on there, organic.

Here's a brief info on it.

The production of foods in the last 20 years or so has turned towards using synthetic pesticides and synthethic additives in order to increase production and shelf life.
Believe it or not some of these chemicals added are actually Benzoate derivative, which is ultimately (Benzine) Petroleum derivative.

Ingesting synthetic chemicals, obviously is detrimental to the body. The argrument goes from the Chemical industry that the amounts are so small, it has no effect. But of course they're arguing from a Profit/loss business standpoint.

Organic foods have developed to counter this dangerous practice. It seems this is mainly centered in the U.S. In other countries, the term "organic" does not even exist, because they don't engage in this practice.

(This is why Americans are obese. The body cannot break down the chemicals and they stay in the body.)

Once you switch ALL your food intake, to foods without chemicals added, you will never be able to eat processed food ever again. It'll always have a chemical aftertaste.

I drink 100% organic coffee with distilled water (our local water supply is filled with dangerous chemicals also) and feel great. No jitters, etc.

I see, i doubt here in Argentina well start using organic foods. Anyway, along with no coffee, i have also stoped drinking coca cola, and now whenever i drink it i say "why am i drinking this awfull thing?", i dont know, but i allways get a feeling that is has a disgusting pretroleum like taste, even though i never tasted pretroleum, so now i almost never drink those kinds of drinks anymore... strangely from time to time i still want to drink a little bit, i supose its because of the evil chemicals they use.

Thanks for the info.

[cheech]

does anyone have any more information on the protection from liver cirrhosis?

i'm a heavy drinker (only socially, so i don't consider myself an alcoholic, but i'm aware that i'm seriously affecting my health), and would have to seriously consider drinking coffee again if it offered significant benefits in this area (i gave up caffeine a few mpnths ago

thanks,

chica

[amixa]

years of just drinking black tea have now forced me to do a detox because my adrenaline glands are really exhausted. and yes i'm weening myself off caffeine by drinking green tea now.
i only had tea once a day.. then it upped to twice a day. its only tea, but still had enough caffeine to force me to do a detox...

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by cheech

does anyone have any more information on the protection from liver cirrhosis?

i'm a heavy drinker (only socially, so i don't consider myself an alcoholic, but i'm aware that i'm seriously affecting my health), and would have to seriously consider drinking coffee again if it offered significant benefits in this area (i gave up caffeine a few mpnths ago

thanks,

chica

Coffee is not going to help. You need to be truthful with yourself and realize you need to stop drinking for a while. Substitute other activities and stay away from the bars at all costs. Social drinking is no excuse when your health is deteriorating. It will only get worse and you need to get off that path of destruction before it gets so serious you can't go back. It will happen. I've seen many "social drinkers" wake up and find out they've wasted their lives and they can never gain back the youth and vitality they once had. Face it. Be honest and start taking care of yourself. Be your own parent and use tough love. That's my advice.

[Digit]

Originally Posted by Vantage72

Lol. You can find as much negatives about coffee as positives.

I prefer to see information that shows both sides. Here's one I liked:
Is Coffee Good or Bad For You? The Pros & Cons of Coffee Drinking

yep.


frankly, i think those benefits are a rather weak argument to keep up the addiction.

all those benefits can be found elsewhere.


the damage to your mood and interactions alone i find are reason enough to get off the coffee train.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by cheech

does anyone have any more information on the protection from liver cirrhosis?

Did a doctor confim you had cirrhosis of the liver?

[Joeschmoe]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

(And technically coffee's not a "drug". Its derived from a bean. Last I checked beans are classified as a food.)

Technically opium isn't a drug. It's a flower....

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Joeschmoe

Technically opium isn't a drug. It's a flower....

You're kidding right? Who says a flower can't be a drug? Mushrooms are.