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Old 12-05-2006, 06:17 PM
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Default Restoring vision without glasses/contacts?

I'm very interested in this field but don't have much insight (lol) on it right now. Does anyone here have any experience with improving eyesight with eye exercises, EFT, yoga, biofeedback, or anything else? I currently wear contacts for myopia (nearsightedness), and I've read it's all related to emotions, anger, muscle tension/atrophy, and maybe a bunch of other things. I would appreciate any clarification or guidance here. Thanks.
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I bought a kit called, Clear Vision, and it's a method of exercises etc...that do, indeed improve the eyes. And the great thing is it doesn't take long, at all, to start getting noticable reults.

You might be able to find out something about it online.
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I started a thread last month on this very topic. I had some interesting responses.
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I bought a kit called, Clear Vision, and it's a method of exercises etc...that do, indeed improve the eyes. And the great thing is it doesn't take long, at all, to start getting noticable reults.

You might be able to find out something about it online.
any more info on that Clear Vision kit? I haven't found anything online. Thanks!
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I've reduced my prescription from -5.5d with 1d astigmatism to about -4.5 and no astigmatism, using EFT and weaker lenses. All over the last 6 months, although i've slacked off the last 2 months.

I found that I started feeling the urge to take off my glasses about March this year, and had my eyes tested. After being teased by my optometrist for even thinking I could improve my vision with my emotions (I'd been doing a bit of EFT before that, and had dropped a lot of angst), I decided to try it properly. I dropped the fist half dioptre by just doing EFT on all the feelings I had going without glasses. There was fear, confusion and memories from childhood. Then as a good EFT student/practitioner does, I did EFT on every negative thought I had. There were plenty and I've been working my way through them. I've been distracted the last couple of months with the move to self-employment and setting everything up, but my optometrist went from laughing at me to cheering me on after a couple of visits.

I'm currently wearing -2.75d glasses for most things, but they only give me about 20/70 vision. It's actually enough, and I get a headache if I wear "correct prescription" glasses. I can feel all the muscles tightening up in response. I recommend "Take off your glasses and See" by Jacob Lieberman". He's my hero! :-)

Also EFT of course - when I've dealt with a big issue (and they come up more without glasses), my eyesight improves measurably... once by .25 dioptre immediately! Give it a go.

Carol Look, an EFT Master practitioner has a series of phone teleconferences you can buy from her site, when she was running an experiment on improving vision. I haven't tried them all yet, but I reckon I've been doing what she recommends anyway.

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Here are organizations to check out:
Organizations Involved in Vision Improvement

The product I used are glassed that make it harder to see. There are several negative reviews on the method (and they aren't listed on the above list) but I tried it, improved my vision about 10%, then lost the discipline and stopped. I'm going to start again now though! The logic seems simple enough -don't wear your regular glasses except when you have to and make your eyes work harder instead of accepting the crutches of thicker and thicker glasses.

Vision Freedom (Brian Severson)
1665 Red Crow Road
Victor, Montana 59875
USA toll free: (800) 422-7320
Voice: (406) 961-5570
Fax: (406) 961-5577

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Hi MARKUS73,
I'll see if I can locate the kit. I've made a move, and things are still packed away, but I'll see if I can find it.
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thanks, dorothy.
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Does anyone have experience with Lasik? Is this something you'd recommend?
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I bought Better Eyesight Without Glasses by W.H. Bates the other day, but haven't gotten properly into it yet.

I did try a simple technique described in it called palming, where you basically cover your eyes gently with your palms, being careful to block all light from entering, and then hold the position for a few minutes. He talks about this as a way of regaining the context of "true black," or something like that.
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Hi Cassie.... I had Lasik done a couple of years ago and would definetly recommend it. The results were immediate and pronounced. It takes a few months for your eyes to get use to night vision. Its common for things like lightpost and headlights on a car to have a slight flaring effect but this goes away.
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Be careful if you spend money on a product to improve your eyesight. I just found out that a product called the "See Clearly Method", which I've heard advertised a lot in this area, was just shut down by court order for alleged deceptive practices and the inability to substantiate their claims. From the article, a lot of the excercises the See Clearly Method uses sound similar to those described in other posts here. Perhaps a bit of diligent research is in order here.
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The natural vision improvement (NVI) movement have had a lot of problems in the US. Something about optometrists getting them shut down in the 40's! WH Bates is the major person who wrote about it. I recommend Jacob Liberman's book Take off your glasses and see, it's inspirational! I personaly wouldn't recommend eye surgery (haven't had it tho). If it's the muscles that are the problem (which all NVI people believe, I think), cutting your lenses only means the muscles are forced to stay that way.

There are emotional reasons behind poor vision. Since I've been improving my eyesight, and have had good results, as I previously mentioned, it IS possible. I've used EFT, others use other methods, but it's all about allowing your eyes to see naturally again, and relaxing the tension in the muscles. There are many websites about NVI. I suggest you do some research before you rush out to be cut up! I haven't mentioned vision improvement in my website yet, I'm waiting to be able to say my vision is perfect! :-)

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I think we need to remember the battle between the new age methods of using our mind to heal ourselves, and traditional practices.

Using the mind (this involves any practices, EFT, emotional clearing, concentration, LOA, it all uses the mind) to heal ailments is of course free! But when people realize this and utilize it (like many on this board) What happens to the income of traditional practices? It dissapears.. Thus the battle continues, traditional practicioners will always discredit using the mind as a tool for healing the body, it is just going to be something we have to accept.

[Just to give you another idea of the control that tradition has] It is the same reason that the free energy technologies of today are not widespread, there is simply too much power held by the oil and gas industry. (Something else I'd like to throw in here, if you have ever heard of the Bilderberg group, I think that this is the true reason of its existence, not that they are trying for political control, but instead economic control.. please do not comment on this here, just something to think about)


A few methods that I have used are outlined in my post in the thread that WanderingOak linked to above!

edit: Something I forgot to add. I wonder if it would help greatly to improve the eyes by slowly transition from ones current prescription, to a perfect eyesight prescription (plain glasses). For example, you have -5.00 eyesight. Well use -4.00 glasses for a few months (while doing other exercises for the eyes and mind throughout the whole process), then use -3.00 glasses for a few months, then -2.00, then -1.00, then 0, then none! It wouldn't be very cheap, but in reality I think it could have an effect, anyone wanna be a test subject?
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I'm really curious as to whether one's body really can improve eyesight again. Because I do not want to get a laser operation for the eyes ...
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Brother of one of my friends had real bad eyes when he was young(3-4yrs) but somehow they went to fine when he was older. Don't know if he used some techniques or they did it by themselves.
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It really appears that we need some balance in this thread. I'm not saying there's nothing to the argument that you can't heal your own eyes, but, from what I've read (Google is your friend, folks), the person that started the modern version of this movement, Dr. William Bates, used some pretty far-out techniques and made improper use of eye testing machines to come to his conclusions and support his arguments. This critique is pretty convincing.

For much more information, follow the links in this document.

Also, let's keep in mind that optometrists and the eye-care establishment in general make their living studying eyes. One should expect that they know what they're talking about. If we're going to continue this debate, we should see more than anecdotal evidence that the techniques of Dr. Bates and his followers have merit. I have yet to find such evidence.
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Matthew, you sound like an unbeliever ...
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Matthew, you sound like an unbeliever ...
Do I?

Seriously, though, I'd like to believe there's something to the theory that you can correct your vision without glasses, contacts or surgery. I wear glasses myself and, while my prescription is weak and my eyes have not gotten worse in many years, I'd love to have 20/20 vision. The preponderence of the evidence, however, says that the methods people are teaching to improve your vision are fraudulent.
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Do I?

Seriously, though, I'd like to believe there's something to the theory that you can correct your vision without glasses, contacts or surgery. I wear glasses myself and, while my prescription is weak and my eyes have not gotten worse in many years, I'd love to have 20/20 vision. The preponderence of the evidence, however, says that the methods people are teaching to improve your vision are fraudulent.
Unfortunately you're probably right ...
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"The preponderence of the evidence, however, says that the methods people are teaching to improve your vision are fraudulent.

Unfortunately you're probably right ..."

I used to listen to skeptics too. Now I prefer to try these things myself. Philosophy classes I attended a few years ago made the point that we can only speak from our own experience. It protects the discussion from opinions and isms. Having tried it myself, I thought it was a good idea.

So balance the discussion, has anyone trying them found the natural methods to NOT work?

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So balance the discussion, has anyone trying them found the natural methods to NOT work?
Good question, but if anyone admits it, I think it will come down to "You didn't try hard enough", "You didn't really believe in it in the first place", "Our method cannot fail if correctly applied", etc

But I could be wrong of course. And I wish to get rid of my glasses as well (-3.5 and -4) ... anyone had success with these diopters?
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