Computer makes one feel sick?

[Adelina]

When I eat my normal clean diet for a few days, raw and plant foods,
I cannot be on the computer for more than 10 to 20 minutes
before I start to feel 'off', like I'm feel some kind of radiation coming from the computer

manifests as a sick feeling,
like straining or pressure in the eyes and head,
and my instinct says to stay away from the computer.

If I eat a not clean diet for several days,
cooked or processed foods
the feeling does not manifest,
and I can spend an hour or two on the computer
without any of those symptoms.

fyi, I normally use a laptop, but this has happened on any computer I've used, even just checking email

The same thing happens when talking on my cell phone-
start to get a sick feeling after 10 minutes or so,
if my diet has been at normal CLEAN,
but does not get that feeling if I have not been eating clean for a couple days.


What's going on here?

It feels like clean foods puts my body on a certain wavelength or vibration,
and the energy from the electronics interferes with that.
When I'm on a not clean diet,
it's like the density of the dirty or cooked food is blocking that electronic vibration, or is lowered to that vibration, and my body is not affected by it.


This has only happened after about 2 years of a very clean diet, mostly vegetarian, and very raw and green.


Anyone else have similar experience??

[Vantage72]

I personally don't experience it this way. A friend of mine does, quite similar to your experience.

I think this article about Wifi and cell phones might interest you:
What's More Important -- Your Cell Phone Or Your Brain? - Articles

PS. I personally don't endorse Dr. Mercola because, in my opinion, he claims stuff without real scientific backup while making it appear that he has scientific backup. Besides that he uses scare marketing.

I would really like to the scientific foundation of a claim like this:
"Recent studies have found that cell phone users are 240 percent more prone to brain tumors."

[Adelina]

I can see how cell phones and radio signals could do it,
but I also seem to feel it just from computer or phone screens themselves
(including computer not with wireless, but cable connection)

Oh yea, I also tried one of those EMF chips, a Q-Link, for several weeks, but that didn't help.

Really funny that I don't feel it right now for the first time in a long time (have been ordering mostly all cooked meals for the past 4 days after getting back from a trip)

[Jennihul]

Originally Posted by Vantage72

PS. I personally don't endorse Dr. Mercola because, in my opinion, he claims stuff without real scientific backup while making it appear that he has scientific backup. Besides that he uses scare marketing.

I would really like to the scientific foundation of a claim like this:
"Recent studies have found that cell phone users are 240 percent more prone to brain tumors."

Almost all of Dr Mercola's posts are from other newspaper articles, journals and media sources. (He provides the links at the bottom of the truncated article.) He then makes his own commentary in the yellow section underneath the article piece. The sources and studies are quoted in the full articles if you follow the links.

Jennifer

[Jennihul]

If I eat things I cannot metabolize, such as wheat, I usually do OK until I get to work where I am exposed to extremely powerful electromagnetic fields. Then I can almost pass out, feel my heart beating funny and have what feels like mini-seizures.

Therefore I cannot cheat on my diet.

But the laptop doesn't really put a dent in the EMFs I am used to. Perhaps it's adaptive.

Jennifer

[Vantage72]

Originally Posted by Jennihul

Almost all of Dr Mercola's posts are from other newspaper articles, journals and media sources. (He provides the links at the bottom of the truncated article.) He then makes his own commentary in the yellow section underneath the article piece. The sources and studies are quoted in the full articles if you follow the links.

Yes I know he provides links, that is not what I am talking about.

What I mean is that he is misinterpreting and misquoting scientific research.

Dr.Mercola says that "Cell Phone Users 240 Percent More Likely to Have Brain Tumors"

Kjell Mild, who led the study, said the figures meant that heavy users of mobile phones had a 240 percent increased risk of a malignant tumor on the side of the head the phone is used. "The way to get the risk down is to use handsfree," he said.

Notice the difference!!!!! The research does not say "Cell Phone Users are 240 Percent More Likely to Have Brain Tumors."

And of course Dr. Mercola ignores all the research that found no link between cell phone use and brain tumor.

And there is more examples like this on Dr. Mercola's website.

[escapee]

Vantage, I think you will not find a internet health guru who is 100% right all the time. I do not personally "endorse" Mercola but i was benefited greatly from his recommendation on low grain diet.


Adelina, I think you're deficient in certain nutrients. Perhaps Jennihul (health practitioner ?)would be able to point out what nutrients you may be lacking for going very raw and clean vegan diet for 2 years.

[Adelina]

I am certain I have all nutritional bases covered. Supplement with vegan whole food meal (Ultimate Meal), and take a full spectrum multivitamin 3-4x week. Physically feel wonderful.

I really think it is some kind of bio-electromagnetic thing,
where the cells of my body are vibrating at the natural plant level,
and become very sensitive to the electronic radiation.

It's also seen where I become much more inclined to sunshine, open spaces, nature and clean spaces when on clean diet. Your cells really do start to match the frequency of what you put into your body.

Someone else try it, eat really clean for a long time,
and see if certain characteristics and feelings change to these things...

[Jennihul]

Originally Posted by Vantage72

Yes I know he provides links, that is not what I am talking about.

What I mean is that he is misinterpreting and misquoting scientific research.

Dr.Mercola says that "Cell Phone Users 240 Percent More Likely to Have Brain Tumors"

Kjell Mild, who led the study, said the figures meant that heavy users of mobile phones had a 240 percent increased risk of a malignant tumor on the side of the head the phone is used. "The way to get the risk down is to use handsfree," he said.

Notice the difference!!!!! The research does not say "Cell Phone Users are 240 Percent More Likely to Have Brain Tumors."

And of course Dr. Mercola ignores all the research that found no link between cell phone use and brain tumor.

And there is more examples like this on Dr. Mercola's website.

I understand what you are saying and I do agree. I peruse his website daily and have received his newsletters for years. I do not think his occasional misinterpretations, or his habit of handpicking articles to suit his agenda are any reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater, however. I have learned an invaluable amount from his website and it truly is one of the best alternative health websites on the internet, notwithstanding Dr Mercola's quirks.

Being that I am thankfully intelligent enough to spot such errors, I do. But to have that sheer amount of obscure alt.health data collated for me on at least a weekly basis is worth having to be on guard for errors and the biases.

Jennifer

[Jennihul]

Originally Posted by Adelina

I am certain I have all nutritional bases covered. Supplement with vegan whole food meal (Ultimate Meal), and take a full spectrum multivitamin 3-4x week. Physically feel wonderful.

I really think it is some kind of bio-electromagnetic thing,
where the cells of my body are vibrating at the natural plant level,
and become very sensitive to the electronic radiation.

It's also seen where I become much more inclined to sunshine, open spaces, nature and clean spaces when on clean diet. Your cells really do start to match the frequency of what you put into your body.

Someone else try it, eat really clean for a long time,
and see if certain characteristics and feelings change to these things...

I was a vegan for eight years and never had this issue. As I said, it could be adaptive for me. I have been exposed to massive and varied amounts of EMFs for 25 years. It just doesn't phase me...(pun intended )

My main concern for Adelina is that you may have gotten it in your head that you have an EMF issue, when in reality it could be a strong sensitivity to something you are eating or an environmental toxin or something in your supplements.

Also, if you are a believer in IM, you get what you dwell on. Maybe you "asked" for this, in a roundabout way.

This is an interesting website. Tachyon Energy Products — Home Page

I'm not sure I agree with the basis for the technology but it's some cool stuff and people swear it works.

Jennifer

[Adelina]

Interesting, and I know what you mean.
I am consciously indifferent,
it would be nice to be able to check my email like normal.

But just like a scientist testing, I see this division between clean diet and not clean diet reaction in my body to environmental things.

Think it definitely has a biological and electrochemical component.

[escapee]

I have all nutritional bases covered. Supplement with vegan whole food meal (Ultimate Meal), and take a full spectrum multivitamin 3-4x week. Physically feel wonderful.

FYI

B-Complex Vitamins: DRI/RDA, negative side effects, overdose & toxicity

[Jennihul]

Originally Posted by escapee

FYI

B-Complex Vitamins: DRI/RDA, negative side effects, overdose & toxicity

When I was a vegan, I took no supplements. It was the healthiest, most varied and nutritious diet I was ever on and supplements weren't necessary.


Jennifer

[rawfooddan]

Wow, I really glad I saw your post. I feel like my rawfood diet makes me more sensitive to computer nasties. I think i may have found out why though. did you know that computers, TVs and other devices release chemicals into the air which we inhale?

When we are eating a pure, raw diet, I think we more readily pick up pollutants in our environment. that is my theory.

What you are feeling might not be only the radiation, but could be chemical toxicity.

check out my website: [removed link]


I have the solution. I'm applying for a patent for a new type of enclosure that both shields you from your computers Rf and microwaves and confines the outgassed chemicals so you don't breathe nasty computer chemicals.

I just made a prototype and this really works! I'm able to use a computer compfortably for long periods of time!

[Adelina]

Hey, my feeling is that it has to do with the electromagnetic waves that emanate from screens (computer, television, or phone color display).

If my diet is clean, it's as though my body is attuned to a higher vibration, and the waves from any screens interferes with that vibration.

If my diet is less clean, more dense foods, cooked, it feels as though my body's vibration is lower and more dense, and is either blocking the waves or is not interfered by the waves.

I can notice this even immediately after a meal, if I have had a raw meal, whole fruits and vegs, I will feel sick if I am near screens. The effect is even magnified right after a meal with what I feel are even higher vibration foods, like sprouts, or spirulina-
The sensitivity effect is inverse to my physical reaction to the food (feel really good after raw meals, and even better if it contains sprouts)
Or even more if I have been fasting.

But not after meals with cooked food.


Also I'm pretty certain it is the screen, and not another part of electronics, because when I compare my phone with color screen, I can feel the effect, but not if I use one of the old nokia phones I kept, which has an analog display.


I'm surprised no one else feels this?

[amandalynne]

Hey, my feeling is that it has to do with the electromagnetic waves that emanate from screens (computer, television, or phone color display).

If my diet is clean, it's as though my body is attuned to a higher vibration, and the waves from any screens interferes with that vibration.

If my diet is less clean, more dense foods, cooked, it feels as though my body's vibration is lower and more dense, and is either blocking the waves or is not interfered by the waves.

^I'm the same way...

I guess it has something to do with the ELF radiation... and I'm convinced that it's gotten worse for me since I switched to using wireless internet. Like, a couple years ago, I was still using an ethernet cord-- and I didn't seem to notice the effects as much. But now, (with WiFi), being on the computer for longer than half an hour makes me sick. I feel like it messes up my brain...

[amandalynne]

(Isn't there something that you can buy for your computer screen to make it more bearable...??

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? )

[Adelina]

I tried the Q link thing, for almost a month, but didn't seem to work.

I've seen screen covers for computers, but think that's for visibility or something??
Not sure if there's something that blocks waves or emf

Originally Posted by amandalynne

(Isn't there something that you can buy for your computer screen to make it more bearable...??

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? )

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I don't think this has to do with chemicals, at least not in my observation.

And how would putting a box on the computer box affect the waves coming from the screen?

[Aminux]

So,anyone found a solution?I´m having these problems myself,everytime i turn on my pc after 15 or 30 minutes i start to feel sick and tired and i know its not because of the monitor because i´ve tried it with the monitor turned off.Is there any way to block these EMF waves?
Thank you.

[Adelina]

Here's the solution I found--
at my family's vacation house we have a home theatre projector, which can attach a television set or computer to.

This solves it, and I think it's because the rays go to a wall projection, rather than the waves coming from the screen. Especially helps for any project need to use a screen for a while, eg writing a paper, or for people who watch movies, etc. May get one for my place for the semester, and for any spaces like dorms or apartments need to have a large blank wall space or projector screen.

and for phones, use the analog kind (the old black and white screens rather than color screens)

and for ipods (even sensitive to this) just don't scan too long or hold too close to eyes.

that's what I've found works!


Probably in the future they will have electronics that have less energy or electromagnetic waves coming out of them, especially screens.

[Dharma]

Your laptop and phones use LCD screens. LCDs have virtually eliminated the radiation that comes from normal CRT monitors. I don't know what you think you're absorbing but your refrigerator and washing machine probably give you more EMF radiation than your laptop.

Sounds like you have an issue with focusing closely on color screens.

[Adelina]

Nope. I am certain it is the waves coming from the screens.

Analog screens, including LCD clock displays, I can feel as well, but only a tiny bit. Computer screens and televisions, both the old cathode tube and newest laptops and super flat panel screens, all can feel waves from them as well.

Also as the above poster, it is not the machine itself, because I can do homework with my laptop on my desk, with the computer on but the screen turned off, and there is no effect. When the screen is on, can feel the effect. Even if am not looking at the screen (it is not a visual effect but some kind of radiative one).

Yes there is information that there is no detectable radiation, but there is definitely some kind of radiation energy coming from the screens. Apparently some people are sensitive to it and others are not.

[Aminux]

Actually,i still feel the effect even with the monitor turned off,it just isnt so strong as if the monitor is turned on.I dont know i use other pcs and dont have any of these problems,i experimented with switching some of the components such as the graphics card,memory and then i noticed some difference,the headaches stopped.So,to be precise its got something to do with the graphics card and the memory at least for me.

[indefatigable]

edit: nevermind, oops

[Vantage72]

Originally Posted by Adelina

Analog screens, including LCD clock displays, I can feel as well, but only a tiny bit. Computer screens and televisions, both the old cathode tube and newest laptops and super flat panel screens, all can feel waves from them as well.

You may want to try a laptop with a LED screen. This is completely different technology than the common CCFL screens which are found in desktops, most laptops and LCD TVs.


By the way, i can only feel radiation of the laptop when it's on my lap. I feel it in my testicles. Which makes sense because they are said to be the most sensitive body part of men. I think it's the wireless radiation I feel, but I don't know if that is true.

[netsurfer]

I can relate to Adelina even though I am not a clean diet and eat all kinds of unhealthy food, In my experience I have to force myself to stay on the computer while every cell in my body tells me to get up and run away from it, and its the same for TV anf phones and laptops.

So much so that I think I have numbed that bit of my body that was helping me get away from this things thats being emitted from screens.

The moment I sit on the computer after a few minutes I star feeling drowsy and its from whats being emitted from the screen nothing else, I have expereinced strange sensations in my heart, fluctuations in its rythms, nausea, pin pricks in my brain, cronic never pain as if some force from the screen is actually entering my head pushing back normal body energies which are to be emitted outwards.

I have had memory blackouts from short instances where I have walked out of work place and not being able to recall where I parked my car, and a few seconds later when my brain sttled down I see the parked just a short distance away.

I have walked into stores after being on the computer and not knowing what I'm there for, and not being abl;e to decide where to go or what to do next.

All of you mean well with your advice, but trust me you do not know what we are going through, even doctors look baffled when I tell them and clueless to the situation, I have been advised to go to Psychitrists and its been called "all in the mind" and can be very annoying when you're told this like one poster has above.

The projector idea is the only solution so far and instinctively I have known this for a long time but failed to carry it out, I have also had to put off several times design courses that I wanted to do related to my career plans.

[AngelPsychic444]

Originally Posted by Adelina

I tried the Q link thing, for almost a month, but didn't seem to work.

I've seen screen covers for computers, but think that's for visibility or something??
Not sure if there's something that blocks waves or emf






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I don't think this has to do with chemicals, at least not in my observation.

And how would putting a box on the computer box affect the waves coming from the screen?

You might want to try a rejuvenizer pendant to block the EMF's, I have one and I think it works great. There is a money back garantee if you don't like it.

EMF subtle energy protection with Rejuvenizers

[elucidate]

I get this. The only way to stop it is to spend minimum time behind a computer.

[ChrisGinsburg]

If you believe something is negatively impacting you it probably will. With that being said, I believe air ionizers were produced with the intention of combating the negative effects of electronics on stuffy indoor air. All that is really necessary is to keep a fresh flow of air from outside coming in and to not sit too close or for too long.

[Mynder]

Hm, several things come up:

1. maybe you need glasses, i.e. your eyes get strained focusing at a screen directly in front of you. this would obviously not be the case with the projection stuff, and is what I'd consider most likely. Check if you get the same reading books at the distance you have your computer screen.

2. you're sensitive to the flickering of the cathode ray lamp (if it flickers at all). In that case, getting an LCD screen with LED backlight may prove helpful.

3. Posture. When you sit at your laptop, what is the viewing angle, how is your neck posture, etc.? Tensions can lead to headaches and strain.

CRTs did have electron radiation, LCDs don't. There simply is no energy ray being shot onto the display surface. So if the problem seems to be the same for both, it is unlikely that this is at the heart of your problem.