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Old 05-12-2008, 07:26 PM
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Wow, now you see that folks? she doesn't agree that's it's wrong but at least Bitsy didn't attack me on my spelling erros. :>) I appreciate that very much. And I appreciate your views and values very very much... Have a great day!!!!
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Wow, now you see that folks? she doesn't agree that's it's wrong but at least Bitsy didn't attack me on my spelling erros. :>)
That would just be silly, because this whole forum is like one big spelling error. It has so many spelling errors that you could fill volumes and volumes and volumes of books with them, and a vast amount of them are made by native English speakers. Why single out one person about a few spelling errors in an ocean of spelling errors?

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she doesn't agree that's it's wrong
I may not have said it was wrong, but I did much more than just refrain from mentioning your spelling errors--I agreed with everything else you wrote .
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But I long for the days when sex meant more than shaking hands, and, yes, meant you were married to the person you did it with.

I really don't think this particular time ever actually existed, although many people seem to think it was a 1950 til the evil 1960's N. American phenomenon (usually the same types who claim "the 1950's were just like Leave it to Beaver!" or "Christianity spread peacefully throughout Europe!"). If you look throughout history, the idea of marriage as a purely motivated, romantic act of love is relatively new, as it was usually just meant for political reasons (after which the political trophy bride could usually be cheated on as often as wanted by her husband with no repercussion), and brothels were just as popular throughout most of known history as porn is today. The past has simply been censored and romaniticized, and when it comes to history and people's motivation for things they do, all of the sex has been conveniently edited out.


You have to remember that humans as a species have spent millenia now learning new ways to kill each other, and being led into countless wars fought for the greed of a highly-ranked group or even a single man, which still continues to this day, and yet people in comparison still act as if casual sex (and even masturbation) are horrible, evil things plaguing humanity. I just don't understand it.

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Jorge were you born in the Victorian era or something? Still believe children should be seen and not heard to?

Oh and I thought I would just point everyone to a research study that is well worth the read. Frequent ejaculation may protect against cancer - 06 April 2004 - New Scientist .
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You're doing sex with someone you love.
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Man, if it takes me 100,000 times till I get bored, then I will be living in heaven all my life. This thing leaves me feeling completely content for a few hours at least. I think I finally understand some people naturally have such a calm personality, I think they just masturbate a lot.
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I don't understand masturbation or relate to it because I'm not a man, but they tell me all men do it, so that's that. But I long for the days when sex meant more than shaking hands, and, yes, meant you were married to the person you did it with.
You're probably aware of this an accepting of it, But I couldn't help but point out the irony in the fact that the man you quote in your signature.. Lord Byron, If my memory serves me well, Is actually reputed as one of the greatest seducers of all time..

Personally I believe theres a beauty and energy to the space in time between people meeting and beginning a sexual relationship that though nothing like love... Is still one of the noblest things two people can engage in... Well, In many cases at least.

Surely we live in a sad world If it takes a few years, An exchange of symbolic wedding vowels and another symbol of "marriage" to deeply connect with a person. And in the words of George Carlin.. symbols should be left to the "symbol(simple) minded".

sex is one of the most natural, enjoyable and instinctive things in existence. And it is actually PROVEN by science to bring people closer together through release of certain chemicals in the brain. And furthermore, Let's not forget - Without sex none of us would be here.

If our very biological/emotional/psychological makeup(and even our physical health) is geared against abstinence in so many ways... Than don't you think that mother nature in her infinite wisdom had some other values/beliefs in mind for us.

Anyway, You're all entitled to your own opinion, But I'm pretty passionate about my opinion on this matter so I thought I'd throw it in.

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A point I would make is that if you masturbate to porn a lot you are basically conditioning your brain to associate feelings of lust and arousal for women you don't know... essentially to see women as sex objects. It can make sex seem almost like porn- normally bad porn because most of the gils I attract are not as attractive as porn stars.

I speak from experience. Age 12 - 18, twice a day is what it took to entrench this unfortunate mindset. I'm still trying to unlearn it two years later.
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Here's a quote from Steve's Daily Blog:

"A man is careful not to allow his energy to get stuck at the level of lust. He re-channels much of his sexual energy into his heart and head, where it can serve his higher values instead of just his animal instincts.

A man channels his sexual energy into his heart-centered pursuits. He feels such energy pulsing within him, driving him to action. He feels uncomfortable standing still. He allows his sexual energy to explode through his heart, not just his genitals."

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And as for the other post above, so what if I misspelled a few words... who cares about spelling? Only people looking for excuses like some of the post above try to tear down in everyway possible...

And as for the use of the penis?

You use it to put it into the vagina of your wife to express your love for each other and to make babies.... and of course you use it to pee... But you don't pull and stretch on it... that IS abuse.. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out...

Sometimes I can't believe how blind most people are not knowing the difference between right and wrong, purity and perversion... No wonder this country is going down the drain.. or maybe it's just that people these days love to do what is wrong.

I saw another post on this forum about a lady who wants to write porn and promote it on her website... I told her to drop it as this would only promote more filth into the world.. but everyone else said, yes , do it, can't wait to see your site...

My goodness, what is wrong with you people.... you guys are on the wrong forum.. You need to go to a sex/pervert/porn forum.

My final words to all of you who enjoy pulling on your penis; stop doing it, get help.. it's wrong and it's abuse. Save your sperm for your future wife...

I feel so sorry for a lot of you guys when the law of attraction comes back to get you. You reap what you sow... don't forget it... Good luck to all of you....
Now that I've learned that there's someone out there that doesn't jerk off, I feel compelled to beat my bishop twice as much to restore balance to the universe.

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Now that I've learned that there's someone out there that doesn't jerk off, I feel compelled to beat my bishop twice as much to restore balance to the universe.

Where's your God now?!
In your sock drawer, stealing your socks.

I don't think you need to feel obligated to compensate for a nonwanker's imbalance. There's probably just as many overwankers as nonwankers in the world anyway.
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Now that I've learned that there's someone out there that doesn't jerk off, I feel compelled to beat my bishop twice as much to restore balance to the universe.

Where's your God now?!
LMAO !!!!!
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I AM IN YOUR ACCOUNTZ, SHARDING YOUR PUPLZ!!

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I don't think you need to feel obligated to compensate for a nonwanker's imbalance. There's probably just as many overwankers as nonwankers in the world anyway.
Nah, I bet there are WAY more overwankers than nonwankers.
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Health Benefits of masturbation and sex (as well as orgasm):

• Long Life: more than 1 orgasm per week has been found in people who live a significantly longer life than those who have orgasms less frequently.

• Less likely to develop breast cancer: breast cancer is found in men and women, and regular orgasms are found to play a role in preventing this type of cancer.

• Healthy Heart: regular orgasms are found to link to people being 50% less likely to die from heart failure or coronary heart disease.

• Healthy Immune system: regular sexual activity has been found to stimulate and strengthen the immune system, which helps us fight off colds, flu’s and other viruses.


• Youthful Appearance: regular sexual activity has been found to help maintain a very young and youthful appearance in both genders.

• Relieve Cramps: it helps relieve premenstrual and menstrual cramps.

• Happier Mood: has been found to elevate our mood.

• Reduces Embarrassment: reduces wet dreams and spontaneous erections in teen males.

• Releases Body Tension: orgasm relieves tension in the body and on the nervous system.

• Helps You Sleep: whether you have insomnia or just trouble sleeping sometimes, the release of endorphins is very calming and will help ease you into sleep.

• Calms Your Cravings: sexual stimulation releases phenetylamine, which helps regulate your appetite.

• Lose Weight: Sex burns calories! Especially if you have a very vigorous bout.

• Pain Management: Can help reduce or eliminate pain (e.g. headaches, chronic pain, cramps, etc)

• Safe Sex: Is a form of safe sex, and can be enjoyed with a partner without the concern of pregnancy or STDs/STIs.

• Happy Marriage: Promotes higher levels of satisfaction in married couples.

• Enhanced Sense of Smell: sexual activity releases prolactin, which stimulates the brain and enhances smell.

• Reduces Depression: the absorption of semen by women has been found to reduce depression.

• Bladder Control: You are doing kegels when you use the bathroom as well as during sex. So both are at play using the same muscles.

• Prostate Health: regular sexual release has been linked to a reduction in chance for getting prostate cancer.

• Fertility: regular sexual activity promotes fertility by regulating female menstrual cycles.

• Good During Pregnancy: sexual activity has been found to protects against pre-mature birth and other problems in pregnancy/birth.

• Reduces Suicide: Suicide has been found high among people who are celibate or have little or no sexual release. So the next time you’re feeling down… maybe you should get better acquainted with yourself.

• Sexual Awareness: masturbation is how we first learn about our sexual nature, and plays a huge part in how we relate to others sexually. A good view on masturbation generally relates to a healthy view of sex.

If you're not gonna have sex til marriage? I suggest you look into something called the Fleshlight. It's not expensive, and will SERVE YOU WELL!!
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Health Benefits of masturbation and sex (as well as orgasm):

• Long Life: more than 1 orgasm per week has been found in people who live a significantly longer life than those who have orgasms less frequently.

• Less likely to develop breast cancer: breast cancer is found in men and women, and regular orgasms are found to play a role in preventing this type of cancer.

• Healthy Heart: regular orgasms are found to link to people being 50% less likely to die from heart failure or coronary heart disease.

• Healthy Immune system: regular sexual activity has been found to stimulate and strengthen the immune system, which helps us fight off colds, flu’s and other viruses.


• Youthful Appearance: regular sexual activity has been found to help maintain a very young and youthful appearance in both genders.

• Relieve Cramps: it helps relieve premenstrual and menstrual cramps.

• Happier Mood: has been found to elevate our mood.

• Reduces Embarrassment: reduces wet dreams and spontaneous erections in teen males.

• Releases Body Tension: orgasm relieves tension in the body and on the nervous system.

• Helps You Sleep: whether you have insomnia or just trouble sleeping sometimes, the release of endorphins is very calming and will help ease you into sleep.

• Calms Your Cravings: sexual stimulation releases phenetylamine, which helps regulate your appetite.

• Lose Weight: Sex burns calories! Especially if you have a very vigorous bout.

• Pain Management: Can help reduce or eliminate pain (e.g. headaches, chronic pain, cramps, etc)

• Safe Sex: Is a form of safe sex, and can be enjoyed with a partner without the concern of pregnancy or STDs/STIs.

• Happy Marriage: Promotes higher levels of satisfaction in married couples.

• Enhanced Sense of Smell: sexual activity releases prolactin, which stimulates the brain and enhances smell.

• Reduces Depression: the absorption of semen by women has been found to reduce depression.

• Bladder Control: You are doing kegels when you use the bathroom as well as during sex. So both are at play using the same muscles.

• Prostate Health: regular sexual release has been linked to a reduction in chance for getting prostate cancer.

• Fertility: regular sexual activity promotes fertility by regulating female menstrual cycles.

• Good During Pregnancy: sexual activity has been found to protects against pre-mature birth and other problems in pregnancy/birth.

• Reduces Suicide: Suicide has been found high among people who are celibate or have little or no sexual release. So the next time you’re feeling down… maybe you should get better acquainted with yourself.

• Sexual Awareness: masturbation is how we first learn about our sexual nature, and plays a huge part in how we relate to others sexually. A good view on masturbation generally relates to a healthy view of sex.
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I still struggle with it from time to time. But I've come to hate it and go hard on myself whenever I fail.
I'm surprised you're not hard all the time.
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There is nothing there to save, because sperm cells only live for a couple of days. Abstinence lowers sperm production, because our bodies were designed to be efficient - switch off what you don't use.

Way I see it, you need to keep sharpening your knife so that when the time comes to finally use it, you don't find yourself holding a blunt instrument.
You advise is like That of the former king of Kapurthala ( Now Punjab State in india).

He used to say that sperm gets stale ,if you don't use it,and on his foreign trips to US and UK ,he used to have atleast one of his several wives with him.
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I think it's pretty clear that masturbation doesn't do harm to anyone, and in fact is a great way to enjoy sexual pleasure, and the only way for those of us who aren't sexually active.

I'll stay out of the religious/moral whatever stuff, but for physical reasons you may not want to masturbate too much because, at least from my experience as a guy, frequent masturbation causes loss of sensitivty in one's penis, at least temporarily. When the time comes for real live sex, you may not want to masturbate too much (if at all) for, say, a day or two beforehand to ensure that you can perform when called upon.

And I do agree with Kaminski's comment that you should rely not just on external sources such as pornography for stimulation but also your own imagination, although porn can be very educational ;-)
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Oh yeah... I would avoid doing what I call "passive" masturbation, e.g. when you thrust your pelvis against a mattress/sofa because you might ejaculate while not fully erect. Doing this on a regular basis can make it more difficult to ejaculate when actually erect in a sexual situation.
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• Reduces Depression: the absorption of semen by women has been found to reduce depression.
What is your source for this piece of hilarious information? LMAO, if that's true!

But yeah, I guess if you enjoy that, why wouldn't it elevate your mood? Lol. Perhaps regular vaginal absorption will reduce depression in others? Lol!

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