Eating eggs

[Joeschmoe]

Originally Posted by robc

No I'm not aware of that, that sounds like a bit of fallacious overstatement to me

Can you provide some proof of that? Last time I checked or heard, fat intake really wasn't an issue with diabetics since any fat that is consumed doesn't solicit an insulin response (fats don't raise blood sugar levels), carb intake does. But I will say this, it sounds interesting, if you have some info on this, I would love to learn more about it.

I can be as open minded as the next guy!

Low-Fat Vegan Diet May Treat Diabetes

Diabetes Research Summary - A Low-Fat Vegan Diet Helps Improves Glucose Control and Heart Health - American Diabetes Association

Pizza, Brownies To Be A Part Of "Low-Fat" Diabetes Diet

A Low-Fat Vegan Diet Improves Glycemic Control and Cardiovascular Risk Factors in a Randomized Clinical Trial in Individuals With Type 2 Diabetes -- Barnard et al. 29 (8): 1777 -- Diabetes Care

Low-Fat Diet Alone Reversed Type 2 Diabetes In Mice

Just a few.

[Joeschmoe]

Sorry, A few of these are pointing to the same study.

But here is another.

The Results

The center teaches a two-part, two-week curriculum. The first part covers how to control one's diabetes and the second part covers the scientific aspects of the disease. Any given week includes lectures from both parts of the curriculum, and participants can choose which lectures they wish to attend. Those staying for three weeks work with a coach who helps them follow the program.

An article in a 1994 edition of Diabetes Care examines a study of 652 people with type 2 diabetes who went through the Pritikin program for three weeks. According to the study, 76 percent of the subjects who had been controlling their disease through diet and exercise went home with a diagnosis that they were no longer diabetic. Seventy percent of the subjects who were taking oral drugs no longer needed medication after finishing the program and 39 percent of the subjects on insulin also went home medication free. More recent statistics were not available.

Another study, published in the May/June 1992 edition of the Journal of Cardiopulmonary Rehabilitation, shows that the Pritikin approach reduces cholesterol and triglyceride levels.

A Healthy Habitat—Pritikin Longevity Center Teaches Special Diet to Type 2s - Diabetes Health

Just one more
Decreased insulin requirement and improved control of diabetes in pregnant women given a high-carbohydrate, high-fiber, low-fat diet -- Ney et al. 5 (5): 529 -- Diabetes Care

[kjbill]

Originally Posted by martin

I've been a vegan for the past 6 months or so and a (mostly) raw vegan for a good month. I feel like I need more calories and protein in my diet if I want to gain muscle mass since I've lost a substantial amount of weight since being vegan/raw. I just don't like being this skinny.

I was thinking I could by organic eggs and maybe go through 2 or 3 dozen a week. Is this unhealthy at all? Is it a good or bad idea?

Thanks.

According to Dr. Fuhrman, author of the book "Eat to live", the best way to gain weight is at the gym, not in the kitchen. Eating more to gain weight gains fat. Lifting weights and exercising to gain weight gains muscle.

Daily raw seeds and nuts are good.
Sunflower seeds are great for muscle-building. 2 - 4 ounces of seeds/nuts a day will do the trick.

[Iamsuperman]

Originally Posted by kjbill

According to Dr. Fuhrman, author of the book "Eat to live", the best way to gain weight is at the gym, not in the kitchen. Eating more to gain weight gains fat. Lifting weights and exercising to gain weight gains muscle.

Daily raw seeds and nuts are good.
Sunflower seeds are great for muscle-building. 2 - 4 ounces of seeds/nuts a day will do the trick.

To gain weight you have to eat the calories. It's simple math, in order to put on weight you need to intake more calories then your burning and if you work out properly then most of that weight will take the form of muscle.

[Joeschmoe]

Originally Posted by Iamsuperman

To gain weight you have to eat the calories. It's simple math, in order to put on weight you need to intake more calories then your burning and if you work out properly then most of that weight will take the form of muscle.

I'm not saying you are wrong. This is just interesting information.

Calorie Restriction Improves Skeletal Muscle Hypertrophic Response In Aged Rats Following Functional Overload -- Hwee and Bodine 21 (6): A1308 -- The FASEB Journal

Maybe there is more to it than calories in > calories out.

[seanner689]

Originally Posted by kjbill

According to Dr. Fuhrman, author of the book "Eat to live", the best way to gain weight is at the gym, not in the kitchen. Eating more to gain weight gains fat. Lifting weights and exercising to gain weight gains muscle.

Daily raw seeds and nuts are good.
Sunflower seeds are great for muscle-building. 2 - 4 ounces of seeds/nuts a day will do the trick.

Many bodybuilders use very similar gym routines whether they are trying to bulk up or trim down. I'd say a more accurate mantra would be something like Weight is determined in the kitchen, body type is determined in the gym.

[FortuneLeaf]

Eggs are good for you.

I eat them at least 3-4 times a week. I love eggs. As a child I use to eat them raw. As I reached adulthood I had no problems with my blood.

[Iamsuperman]

Originally Posted by martin

I've been a vegan for the past 6 months or so and a (mostly) raw vegan for a good month. I feel like I need more calories and protein in my diet if I want to gain muscle mass since I've lost a substantial amount of weight since being vegan/raw. I just don't like being this skinny.

I was thinking I could by organic eggs and maybe go through 2 or 3 dozen a week. Is this unhealthy at all? Is it a good or bad idea?

Thanks.

I would say that if you're trying to get the high quality protein without the unhealthy stuff then eat more egg whites then whole eggs. Throw away some or all the yolks. The whites are basically pure protein, the yolks contain lots of fat, and cholesterol. Additionally, I wouldn't recommend raw eggs because the protein bioavailibility is less then in cooked eggs.

I would be very interested if you notice any changes after going from raw to eating eggs. I'm on a close to raw diet with eggs being my only animal protein and I've considered cutting them out but I've always decided against it because of the high quality protein I'd be missing.