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Old 01-25-2008, 01:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Saw this article in the Wall Street Journal and thought you guys might be interested:

The 247 lb. Vegan
NFL star Tony Gonzalez is out to answer a question: Can a football player live entirely on plants?
By REED ALBERGOTTI
January 25, 2008; Page W1

The protein-rich bounty of the football training table is supposed to grow the biggest and strongest athletes in professional sports. Kansas City Chiefs tight-end Tony Gonzalez was afraid it was going to kill him. "It's the Catch-22," says Mr. Gonzalez, 31. "Am I going to be unhealthy and play football? Or be healthy and get out of the league?"

So last year, on the eve of the biggest season of his career, Mr. Gonzalez embarked on a diet resolution that smacked head-on with gridiron gospel as old as the leather helmet. He decided to try going vegan.

Living solely on plant food, a combination of nuts, fruits, vegetables, grains and the like, has long been the fringe diet of young rebels and aging nonconformists. Even the government recommends regular helpings of meat, fish and dairy. Vegans of late have gotten more hip with such best sellers as the brash "Skinny Bitch," and its more scholarly cousin, "The China Study." Both books argue vegans can live longer.

But could an all-star National Football League player, all 6-foot, 5-inches and 247 pounds of him, live on a vegan diet and still excel in one of the most punishing jobs in sports?

For Mr. Gonzalez, the stakes were high. He'd just signed a five-year contract, making him the game's highest-paid tight-end. Entering the 2007 season, his 11th in the NFL, he had a shot at breaking all-time NFL records for career receptions and touchdowns at his position. To do that, he needed top performances in every game. Mr. Gonzalez knew he was out on a limb. "I was like, 'I'm going to look like a fool if this doesn't work out,'" he says.

Mr. Gonzalez joined a handful of elite athletes who have put the vegan diet to the test, either for their health or because they oppose using animals as food. But he was the first pro-football superstar to try. And the first to fail.

There's no evidence a vegan diet can improve an athlete's performance, says David Nieman, a professor of health and exercise at Appalachian State University. His 1988 study of vegetarian runners found they ran as well as their meat-eating rivals but no better. Although the vegetarian athletes in his study also ate eggs and dairy foods, he says, "there is scientific evidence that veganism, when done right, won't hurt performance." But, he adds, there is only anecdotal evidence that it can help.

Professional athletes, especially NFL players, need thousands of calories a day. Many enjoy a high-protein, high-fat smorgasbord of steaks, chops, burgers, pizza, ice cream and beer. Mr. Gonzalez's tight-end job requires him to push around monstrously sized opponents. Occasionally, he gets to catch a pass. Mr. Gonzalez is famous for combining the brute power of an offensive lineman with the acrobatic skills of a nimble receiver. "My biggest thing is strength," he says. "If you lose that strength you get your butt kicked."

Experts say athletes in training need as much as twice the protein of an average person to rebuild muscle. Their bodies also require a big dose of minerals and vitamins, as well as the amino acids, iron and creatine packed into fish, meat and dairy foods. It's fine to be a vegan, says sports nutritionist and dietician Nancy Clark, if you're willing to work at it. "It's harder to get calcium, harder to get protein, harder to get Vitamin D, harder to get iron," she says. "You have to be committed."

"Skinny Bitch" co-author Kim Barnouin is working on another book called "Skinny Bastard." "We want men to know that you're not going to be some scrawny little wimp if you follow this diet," she says. The book trashes meat, milk, eggs, cheese and sodas, saying men and women feel better and look better without them. "The more athletes who come forward and say, 'I'm doing this for my health,' the better," she says.

Mr. Gonzalez had never heard of the vegan diet when he boarded a flight from New York to Los Angeles last spring, about a month before preseason training. His seatmate turned down most of the food offered in first class, and Mr. Gonzalez finally asked why. The man told Mr. Gonzalez about "The China Study," a 2006 book by Cornell professor and nutrition researcher T. Colin Campbell that claims people who eat mostly plants have fewer deadly diseases than those who eat mostly animals. The evidence was drawn from diet surveys and blood samples of 6,500 men and women from across China.

Mr. Gonzalez was intrigued. Earlier in the year, a bout with Bell's Palsy, a temporary facial paralysis, had focused his attention on health. He bought the book, and after reading the first 40 pages, he says, was convinced animal foods led to chronic illness. He was an unlikely convert. Mr. Gonzalez, who grew up in Southern California, says cheeseburgers were his favorite food. But he quit them, substituting fruits, nuts and vegetables. At restaurants, he ordered pasta with tomato sauce.

Three weeks later, he walked into the weight room at the Chiefs' training facility and got a shock. The 100-pound dumbbells he used to easily throw around felt like lead weights. "I was scared out of my mind," he says. Standing on the scale, he learned he'd lost 10 pounds.

Mr. Gonzalez considered scrapping the diet altogether and returning to the Chiefs' standard gut-busting menu. First, though, he called Mr. Campbell, who put him in touch with Jon Hinds, himself a vegan and the former strength coach for the Los Angeles Clippers basketball team. Mr. Hinds suggested plant foods with more protein.

The Chiefs' team nutritionist, Mitzi Dulan, a former vegetarian athlete, did not believe that was enough. With the team's prospects and Mr. Gonzalez's legacy at stake, she persuaded the tight-end to incorporate small amounts of meat into his plant diet. Just no beef, pork or shellfish, he said; only a few servings of fish and chicken a week.

Teammates nicknamed him China Study and razzed Mr. Gonzalez if he missed a block. But he wasn't ready to give up his new diet completely. After a preseason practice, he accompanied Mr. Hinds to learn a skill he believed as important as blocking techniques: how to shop for groceries. Mr. Hinds showed him nutritious fish oils and how to pick out breads dense with whole grains, nuts and seeds. "The best bread for you," says Mr. Hinds, "is if I hit you with it, it hurts." Mr. Gonzalez also learned how to make the fruit and vegetable shake he drinks each morning. He stocked his pantry with tubs of soy protein powder and boxes of organic oatmeal; soy milk and Brazilian acai juice crowded the fridge. His favorite dessert became banana bread topped with soy whipped cream from the vegan cafe near his home in Orange County's Huntington Beach.

Mr. Gonzalez soon recovered his lost pounds and strength, but prospects for a record-breaking season were still in doubt. The team lost its starting quarterback, Trent Green, in a trade, and the Chiefs' star running back was tied up in a contract dispute.

As the season progressed, the team lost more games than it won. But Mr. Gonzalez managed to stick to his diet and hold onto the football. He broke the touchdown record before midseason and was within reach of the career reception record. "I was like, 'OK, this is working,'" he says. "I have so much more energy when I'm out there." His wife, October Gonzalez, was astonished her husband could play the season without ordering a single cheeseburger. "I thought he'd cave," she says.

Mr. Gonzalez entered the final game against the New York Jets needing four catches to surpass the record held by former tight-end Shannon Sharpe. The contest turned into a sluggish defensive struggle with the Chiefs trailing the Jets 7 to 3. Still, Mr. Gonzalez made three receptions. With 2 minutes and 29 seconds left in the third quarter, Chiefs quarterback Brodie Croyle was fleeing defenders when he threw a 9-yard pass to Mr. Gonzalez, who scampered for a first down and a spot in the NFL record book.

Write to Reed Albergotti at reed.albergotti@wsj.com
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That was a pretty balanced article. I'm shocked and pleased. (Quick side note, in the future please just link to the story because posting it in its entirety is copyright infringement. You can post like a paragraph but not the whole thing).

A lot of people who initially go vegan just eliminate items but don't replace them with healthy alternatives. You can get plenty of protein and iron and calcium on a vegan diet.
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A paid subscription is required to view the article. Nevertheless, next time I'll post just a paragraph.
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That was a great article. Thank you for sharing. Seems like he stuck closely to a vegetarian diet instead of vegan if I read correctly (except the chicken...blah!). I love reading about vegetarian athletes!!! He worked with his diet until it was healthy and right for him instead of giving up.
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especially NFL players, need thousands of calories a day. Many enjoy a high-protein, high-fat smorgasbord of steaks, chops, burgers, pizza, ice cream and beer.
^disgusting.



That's awesome that he stuck to the diet though.
I didn't think it was possible for an NFL football player to maintain a healthy diet, since they're required to be so big...
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The law about fair use does not specify how much you can quote but I think that 2 paragraphs are OK. The website that tells about sites that suck say that any sites where you have to pay or register to see them SUCK. White rice, bread, pasta and any cookies etc. with sugar but no milk are vegan but not very healthy. Attitudes toward healthy foods are improving. Maybe someday you will not have all these experts putting down the all raw diet.
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It's fine to be a vegan, says sports nutritionist and dietician Nancy Clark, if you're willing to work at it. "It's harder to get calcium, harder to get protein, harder to get Vitamin D, harder to get iron," she says. "You have to be committed."
What the!? I understood that to get enough Vitamin D you just had to spend 15 minutes a day in the sunshine. Does being vegan interfere with that somehow?

P.S. It's more controversial, but studies (incl. the China Project) strongly suggest that, a plant-based diet provides less calcium but you don't need as much on a plant-based diet because it's also lower in protein and excess protein leeches calcium from the body.

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But could an all-star National Football League player, all 6-foot, 5-inches and 247 pounds of him, live on a vegan diet and still excel in one of the most punishing jobs in sports?
[...]The Chiefs' team nutritionist, Mitzi Dulan, a former vegetarian athlete, did not believe that was enough. With the team's prospects and Mr. Gonzalez's legacy at stake, she persuaded the tight-end to incorporate small amounts of meat into his plant diet. Just no beef, pork or shellfish, he said; only a few servings of fish and chicken a week.
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After a preseason practice, he accompanied Mr. Hinds to learn a skill he believed as important as blocking techniques: how to shop for groceries. Mr. Hinds showed him nutritious fish oils and how to pick out breads dense with whole grains, nuts and seeds.
Unless chicken, fish and fish oils are now considered vegan, the answer to the question appears to be "no". Although the article suggests he was talked out of pure veganism rather than it conclusively failing his needs.
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That was a great article. Thank you for sharing. Seems like he stuck closely to a vegetarian diet instead of vegan if I read correctly (except the chicken...blah!). I love reading about vegetarian athletes!!! He worked with his diet until it was healthy and right for him instead of giving up.
Its so bizarre to see someone disgusted by chicken... I'm well aware of the conditions many chickens go through to get on our plates, but its still mouth water to see it on my plate.

Recently though I've had a growing interest in vegetarianism though, might give it a go. Veganism seems a bit to extreme IMO though, I couldn't get away with it.

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What the!? I understood that to get enough Vitamin D you just had to spend 15 minutes a day in the sunshine. Does being vegan interfere with that somehow?
That kinda sounds like a radical exaggeration of the so called "daily minimum".

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Go watch the movie Earthlings on Google video and you might be disgusted by chicken too. It's not just that some of them are treated sort of poorly, almost all of them (even "free range") are kept in sub concentration camp conditions in the US.
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A very interesting article, but it still leaves me unsatisfied. Plus he loses points with me for saying "OK, this is working" when all he was really doing was eating healthier, not strictly vegan (obviously you'll feel better eating more plant foods instead of a "high-protein, high-fat smorgasbord of steaks, chops, burgers, pizza, ice cream and beer").

I'm really curious to see if people can build substantial amounts of muscle (build, not maintain) on a whole foods vegan diet that doesn't make use of protein powders, other similar supplements, processed foods (such as tofu, imitation "meats", etc), and crazy extremes such as eating kilos of legumes and nuts everyday.

I'm a vegan myself (since Oct 2006), so I'm certainly not a skeptic or a zealous advocate of meat and protein powders (vegan or not), but I'm yet to see anybody who's done it. I also haven't had access to decent training facilities since I went vegan, so I haven't been able to try it myself.

People "say" it's possible, but I'm yet to see it. All the vegan bodybuilders I've seen all have pretty unimpressive musculatures (at least by my standards). I don't expect results akin to those of a 'roid pumper, but I do expect some decent size relative to body type.

Also, most vegan bodybuilders who do have a semi-decent amount of muscle on them give me the impression that they were like that before they went vegan. I'm not 100% sure whether that's an influencing factor or not, but I assume it's harder to build muscle then it is to maintain it. I could be mistaken. There's also a possible muscle memory effect at play.

Most omnivore bodybuilder folk say that building substantial muscle (naturally, with no 'roids or supplements) can't be done. But then they're wolfing down meat and supplements, and as far as I know, any attempts they made to building muscle on a vegan diet could have failed because of their lack of understanding about veganism (being vegan isn't easy... building decent amounts of muscle on a diet isn't likely to be easy, either), so it's really hard to say.

You also have to consider how much of an impact belief has in this. If people can heal themselves through visualisation and the like, I imagine it's very easy to get no size gains on a vegan diet when you believe that it simply won't work.

I guess I'll have to experiment on myself once I get some more cash.
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