Why so many are sick (video)

[Dan.Linehan]

Here's are a couple humorous videos regarding misplaced perceptions in America concerning health and wellness.

YouTube - Why So Many Are Sick

YouTube - Olive Oil -- It's NOT good for your heart!

[Ecstasy]

Good videos.

[Groundless]

Counterpoint to the Vegan cult.

The Naive Vegetarian - Second Opinions

[Dharma]

We will never find health and wellness if we, as a society, continue to blame food for our ills or our good fortune. The root of disease is underneath this smokescreen. It is easy to blame something outside ourselves (or even inside ourselves, ie. heredity) so we won't have to look at ourselves more closely.

[Asmoday]

I'm most concerned about the overpopulation issues we face, and often, these are simply ignored.

Of course, the reason we ignore them is because we're avoiding the uncomfortable thought of having to "loose people".

The reason I'm concerned is because I don't see any pleasant ways to solve the problem....

The C.I.A. is starting to actually anticipate conflicts over resources, and not oil or space, but frankly, wars over water.

Any thoughts?

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Groundless

Counterpoint to the Vegan cult.

The Naive Vegetarian - Second Opinions

Counterpoint to the meat eating cult.

The Food Revolution: How Your Diet Can Help Save Your Life and Our World

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Dharma

We will never find health and wellness if we, as a society, continue to blame food for our ills or our good fortune. The root of disease is underneath this smokescreen. It is easy to blame something outside ourselves (or even inside ourselves, ie. heredity) so we won't have to look at ourselves more closely.

In November 2005, National Geographic published a cover story that came to similar conclusions as I do in Healthy at 100. Titled "The Secrets of Living Longer," the article featured three contemporary groups of long-living people, all of whom turn out to eat a plant-based diet. At the conclusion of the issue, National Geographic summarized the "secrets of long life" in two words: "Go vegetarian."

- John Robbins


Seems pretty simple to me.

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Asmoday

The C.I.A. is starting to actually anticipate conflicts over resources, and not oil or space, but frankly, wars over water.

Any thoughts?

One pound of beef requires an input of approximately 2500 gallons of water, whereas a pound of soy requires 250 gallons of water and a pound of wheat only 25 gallons. Meat production is inefficient as it requires the consumption of an extensive amount of resources over many months and years before becoming a usable food product.

From, How does eating meat affect water usage, water pollution and the ocean?

To conserve the water you'd save by not eating one hamburger you'd have to stop showering for two and a half weeks.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Groundless

Counterpoint to the Vegan cult.
The Naive Vegetarian - Second Opinions

Oh, that thing again. Most or all of this article has been refuted before, including on this forum. Do a search.

P.S. You're not going to win anyone over by calling them a cultist.

[bart]

The first video is hilarious and well brought, I enjoyed it. The Olive Oil video I find a bit short sighted. It does not really provide research references nor where to get them. There is various scientific research that counters the 'opinion' voiced in that video, and usually there is since that is the nature of research.

For example on the use of mobile phones you will find researchers claiming it is a cause of brain cancer, and similarly qualified researchers claiming it is not. We all know certain industries have funded research to influence the outcome, e.g. the tabaco industry.

As far as I know, any vegetable oriented oil is more healthy then fat/oil from an animal source. If anyone has more conclusive links then a youtube video I would really appreciate them (either here or in a private message), youtube is not exactly a great source for scientific information.

Bart

PS: the title of that video is quite misleading too, since only a fraction of the speech is about olive oil. My interest in Canola oil did spark however due to the video so its not all bad.

[escapee]

The reason why Olive oil may not be good for your heart ?

Olive oil is loaded with non-essential monounsaturated Oleic acid ( Omega 9 ) that human body can make their own. To make matter worse, Prolonged cooking destroys (oxidation ) most of the fragile monounsaturated bonded olive oil. Regardless of the origin of oil, You do not want to have too much of oxidized fats circulating in your blood stream because that is one of the primary causes of inflammation and plague formation.

Even the highly saturated palm oil are proned to oxidation/damage after 3 times of use (frying for 3 times, this is an information from palm oil expert). So there is no reason to heat your olive oil unless you dont give a damn about oil that goes into your body as it's 100% vegetarian and humanely produced.

Unadulterated Polyunsaturated fatty acids ( Very sensitive to processing ) are the only 2 essential fats that human can't synthesize their own and must consume from whole food ( non-processed ) or from cold pressed source.

Essential fatty acids, or EFAs, are fatty acids that cannot be constructed within an organism from other components (generally all references are to humans) by any known chemical pathways; and therefore must be obtained from the diet. The term refers to those involved in biological processes, and not fatty acids which may just play a role as fuel. As many of the compounds created from essential fatty acids can be taken directly in the diet, it is possible that the amounts required in the diet (if any) are overestimated. It is also possible they can be underestimated as organisms can still survive in unideal, malnourished conditions.

There are two families of EFAs: ω-3 (or omega-3 or n-3) and ω-6 (omega-6, n-6.) Fats from each of these families are essential, as the body can convert one omega-3 to another omega-3, for example, but cannot create an omega-3 from scratch. They were originally designated as Vitamin F when they were discovered as essential nutrients in 1923. In 1930, work by Burr, Burr and Miller showed that they are better classified with the fats than with the vitamins.[1]

[escapee]

YouTube - Why So Many Are Sick

This video is very misleading, the presenter combines the highly processed animal food from fast food chain together with all animal based food ( including those from the organic source with the right cooking oil and method ) and label all of them disease causing satanic food with misleading statement ( like eating meat causes ... ) . i bet he didnt know that vegetarian french fries sold in thousand of fast food restaurants are more dangerous to human than eating beef burger.

Heart of Darkness

In a flash, this reporter realizes that, whether country cut or curly, the fast food French fry is mankind's mortal enemy--one that will only become more insidious as its relative the trans fat is banned. In one super-sized serving there is enough lipid hydroperoxide to bring a grown man to his knees, lips moving in soundless desperation.

Food fried in vegetable oil contains a highly toxic compound - HNE (4-hydroxy-trans-2-nonenal)

University of Minnesota researchers A. Saari Csallany, a professor of food chemistry and nutritional biochemistry, and graduate student Christine Seppanen have shown that when highly unsaturated vegetable oils are heated at frying temperature (365 F) for extended periods--or even for half an hour--a highly toxic compound, HNE (4-hydroxy-trans-2-nonenal) forms in the oil.

HNE is a well known, highly toxic compound that is easily absorbed from the diet," said Csallany. "The toxicity arises because the compound is highly reactive with proteins, nucleic acids--DNA and RNA--and other biomolecules. HNE is formed from the oxidation of linoleic acid, and reports have related it to several diseases, including atherosclerosis, stroke, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, Huntington's and liver diseases."


Csallany's work underscores the risk of repeated heating, or reusing, highly unsaturated oils for frying because HNE accumulates with each heating cycle. In future studies, Csallany and her colleagues plan to determine how long polyunsaturated oil must be heated at lower temperatures in order to form HNE and its related compounds. The study was funded by the University of Minnesota.

I 'm pretty sure that if the presenter understood Csallany's work. He would have carried the presentation in a different way.

[Groundless]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

One pound of beef requires an input of approximately 2500 gallons of water, whereas a pound of soy requires 250 gallons of water and a pound of wheat only 25 gallons. Meat production is inefficient as it requires the consumption of an extensive amount of resources over many months and years before becoming a usable food product.

From, How does eating meat affect water usage, water pollution and the ocean?

To conserve the water you'd save by not eating one hamburger you'd have to stop showering for two and a half weeks.

Last I checked our planet is a closed system not an open one. This logic is flawed.

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Groundless

Last I checked our planet is a closed system not an open one.

Sure, the water just doesn't disappear, it just becomes unusable. This reference is regarding fresh water being in short supply.