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Old 12-06-2007, 09:57 AM
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Default My 10 Day Vegan Diet Experience

I'm a carnivore. I'm not ashamed to admit it. So it was really hard for me when I embarked on a 10 day Vegan Diet.

But you know what? I survived to tell the tale!

What about you? What was your vegan diet experience like? (especially if you love meat the way I do)
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I consider myself a non-strict vegan, I drink milk on occasion, and will have eggs mixed into cookies or brownies. It seems to me that 10 days isn't really long enough to experience the full benefits. I've been a vegetarian for about a year and a half. I really feel that I have been able to strongly feel a shift in my body and my soul. 10 days seem short, you may feel lighter or cleaner, but its only really a dabbling.

I grew up on a farm where we raised our own animals for food. I've definitely seen both sides of the track. You've probably never had to kill or butcher for your food (sorry for the graphic picture!), so meat is something you pick up from the store. Let me just say that killing animals for food is not something that is glorifying or even remotely romantic or fun. Its a disgusting process, and while we treated our animals relatively well, it is deeply traumatizing to kill animals and that physical trauma is left in the meat that you eat. And its even worse with animal factories.

So even at best the meat that you can get is organic and small farm raised, its still has the energetic trauma that you are putting into your body. Luckily vegetables don't experience that trauma to my knowledge, so we just ingest enzymatically charged, healthy foods.

So in a way, to me, being a meat eater is saying, I like to feast on death. I choose to ingest food that is not energetically promoting life in my body, its promoting pain, suffering, and I'm ingesting that into my body. I'm making that a part of my body, and therefore my life experience. Is that really the best you want for your life? Is that really the highest level of consciousness you can aspire to?

I don't believe that it is.

I do apologize for the soap-box reply, usually I am a very easy going when it comes to meat eaters and friends in my life. But something struck a cord in me, and I had to let it out. I guess I feel if people come to this site and seek to become more conscious, they should be more conscious about ingesting death-filled energy and substances into their bodies, and wake up to the reality of where our food comes from.

Thanks for reading,

Sincerely,

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Hi Ben, I never thought about it that way before - ingesting negative energy. Hmm... maybe you are right - we grew up differently and I never actually witnessed how my food got "processed". I guess it must have been really difficult for you.

Thanks for opening my mind to another way of thinking. Maybe you can share your detailed diet plan for the benefit of those reading? I'm certainly interested in knowing where you actually get your required minerals, vitamins, nutrients from....
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Hi Ben, I never thought about it that way before - ingesting negative energy. Hmm... maybe you are right - we grew up differently and I never actually witnessed how my food got "processed". I guess it must have been really difficult for you.

Thanks for opening my mind to another way of thinking. Maybe you can share your detailed diet plan for the benefit of those reading? I'm certainly interested in knowing where you actually get your required minerals, vitamins, nutrients from....
Hey Thanks for having an open mind!!!

I will say that honestly, getting the required nutrient content is ridiculously easy these days; everything comes fortified so its really hard not to get your vitamins.

And what most people don't know is that soy is a complete protein. Its actually one of the best complete proteins that you can get. But if you're veg you can still drink and eat eggs and get other animal proteins if you need them. But beans, nuts, seeds, veggies, and all that provide plenty of protein, so vegs can easy maintain their weight.

I actually found it easy for me to even gain weight as well, when I wanted to. I wanted to pack on 20 pounds, so I found that supplementing my diet with extra protein allowed me to gain about 15 pounds in two months. All on a completely veg diet.

My main point is that most of the myths about being a veg just aren't true.

But just in case I do take a multivitamin.

I am on a diet now called the warriors diet the link to the forum post is here:

The Warriors Diet

So now my dietary requirements are a bit different than those who I would say are regular vegs/vegans.

I basically eat one big meal at the end of the day. And I eat small meals throughout the day of fruits, during my period of undereating.

So far I have loved this diet, as I look forward to eating at the end of the day and usually pig out on whatever I want to.

I will admit that I have been feeling a bit light-headed, but that is probably because I need to up my calorie intake and begin to eat larger meals. When you're used to eat around 1000 calories per meal, it takes a bit of practice to consume 2000 or more calories per meal.

But other than that its great. I feel strong, very clear headed, and I am losing wee bit of fat around my belly, and developing a lean, swimmers like build, which is my goal.

So that's what works for me. I do have cheese on pizza, or milk mixed in with baked goods, things like that. But I don't like regular milk or eating eggs, so I exclude them because they don't fit my tastes.

Hope that helps!

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Let me just say that killing animals for food is not something that is glorifying or even remotely romantic or fun. Its a disgusting process, and while we treated our animals relatively well, it is deeply traumatizing to kill animals and that physical trauma is left in the meat that you eat. And its even worse with animal factories.
Ben, I totally agree with you! I'm happy there is someone thinking like that too I was raised on a small farm as well, I saw them kill sheep which is the worst thing I have ever seen. It's deeply traumatizing indeed.

That's also one of the reasons I don't want to eat meat. When you eat meat, you eat not only muscles and fat but also the hormones. Which hormones do you have in your blood when you're getting killed? Eating meat you also ingest information on an energetical level. So you receive violence, fear, anger, maybe hate, or desperation, and death. Gee! I don't want to put that into my body!

I read an article once, that somewhere in Asia they beat dogs before killing them, so that the dogs taste better because of higher adrenaline levels.
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I did 10 days also, but it was actually 10 days on a raw-food diet, which is also vegan. So, here were my results that had all fully kicked in by around the 6th day:

1) unbelievable increase in energy

2) dramatic increase in clarity of mind

3) self-esteem boost

4) lost almost 10 pounds


After I finished it and started eating other foods again, I concluded that it would be very difficult for me to maintain a strict raw-food diet. I sure do miss some of the different feelings that I had though. I haven't thought about it much lately, but maybe there could be a middle ground, or maybe I could committ to doing such a diet for a set period of time each month or every few months or something. Might be interesting.

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I have been on vegetarian diet for over 2 years. After I got into body building on vegetarian diet I just could not gain any weight. I know that is a big problem for some people I had to get into eating more fish and chicken. I still stay away from red meat. I actually felt much better being vegetarian I had much more energy through the day. It might also had to do with beating up my body with lifting heavy weight all the time.
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actually they say fish is good. so vegans/vegetarians, what's a good substitute for fish?
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That is crazy! I had no problem whatsoever gaining weight on a vegetarian diet. I gained 20 pounds in 2 months!

So please please please don't believe that its hard for vegetarians to gain weight. It may be hard for SOME vegetarians to gain weight but not all. And I am a hardgainer; I am very thin and I have high metabolism. Its totally possible!

@Rich

Tofumon (Tofu + Salmon)

Or

Halibofu (Halibut + Tofu)

Make great substitutes.

But seriously, tofu, veggie replacements, nuts, seeds, legumes, beans, soy, you'll be fine. I'm not wasting away by anymeans!
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That's also one of the reasons I don't want to eat meat. When you eat meat, you eat not only muscles and fat but also the hormones. Which hormones do you have in your blood when you're getting killed? Eating meat you also ingest information on an energetical level. So you receive violence, fear, anger, maybe hate, or desperation, and death. Gee! I don't want to put that into my body!

I read an article once, that somewhere in Asia they beat dogs before killing them, so that the dogs taste better because of higher adrenaline levels.
Thanks you guys for showing yet another reason not to eat dead meat. I've been a vegetarian (want to be a vegan) for a few weeks now. I should write a blog post about this! Very interesting stuff.
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Ben,

Thank you for sharing your story.

I have always felt the way you feel about not eating animals.

I have been a vegetarian ( octo lavo ) for about 15 years now, and that is one of the only things that I am disciplined about.

You put into words the reasons why I don't like meat.After eating it I feel dirty inside, like something is not quite right. I think the torment and pain animals go through, is still in their flesh.
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Ben,

Thank you for sharing your story.

I have always felt the way you feel about not eating animals.

I have been a vegetarian ( octo lavo ) for about 15 years now, and that is one of the only things that I am disciplined about.

You put into words the reasons why I don't like meat.After eating it I feel dirty inside, like something is not quite right. I think the torment and pain animals go through, is still in their flesh.
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I feel grateful in a way for growing up as I did. I was able to experience first hand what it was like to butcher animals. It wasn't until much later, that I realized how much emotional trauma it had caused me. Maybe as a child I was a bit over sensitive, but needless to say, slaughtering animals is never glorious or pretty.
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Very interesting point of view regarding ingesting negative energy when consuming meat. Thinking about it can certainly lessen my craving for steaks.

I've read The China Study by Campbell where he concluded that casein in animal protein acts as a cancer causing agent. However, I've also read that phytoestrogens in soy can have negative effects our body, even causing man to grow man-boobs.

To the vegans in this thread, what do you think about the issue of phytoestrogens in soy?
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I did 10 days also, but it was actually 10 days on a raw-food diet, which is also vegan. So, here were my results that had all fully kicked in by around the 6th day:

1) unbelievable increase in energy

2) dramatic increase in clarity of mind

3) self-esteem boost

4) lost almost 10 pounds
One pound per day? Geez, my record is four in a week... I must try raw. I guess you don't suffer from hunger, but don't you ever suffer from cravings? I can control hunger, but the craving for sweets kills any vegan or raw diet I may try. Milk chocolate has milk and licorice has been boiled (when you find some that doesn't contain jello).
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