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Old 10-18-2007, 08:09 PM
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Hating on George W. Bush/his administration is somewhat of a pasttime for me. The hits just keep coming. Has anyone seen this:

Birth-Control Foe To Run Office on Family Planning

And this blog about it:

Bush Family Planning Appointee Called Contraceptives Part Of The ‘Culture Of Death’

I am almost speechless. The one thing I can say right now is WTF?!?
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Anyone who is against birth control is obviously deluding themselves that the world's population is not getting too large. It is most likely from the Christian conservative right pro-life anti-abortion people who care about the fetus before it is born so much, but when it is born into a human, it's on its own. I understand it to an extent, but it is funny how many of the pro-life people's daughters have had abortions, but they would never tell you that.
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but it is funny how many of the pro-life people's daughters have had abortions, but they would never tell you that.
No, but this publication will.

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The average woman who seeks an abortion is 24 years old, unwed, earns a yearly income of about $25,000, and already is a mother. She is just as likely as not to have had a previous abortion. She has religious beliefs and is a Christian - more likely to be Protestant than Catholic. The typical abortion is performed around the 8th week - well within the first trimester. She could be of any race. And, if she is a minor, her parents not only condoned her decision to have an abortion, they may have demanded it.
~ ThirdWay The Demographics of Abortion
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I can understand someone being against abortion. I'm kind of undecided myself.

But how the hell can you be against birth control? What does that accomplish. The easiest way to create more suffering is to bring more people into the world than you can support.
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I get that they want everyone to abstain from sex before marriage. While I find it totally unreasonable in the real world, I get the basis.

The problem is that they are trying to force everyone to abstain by taking away the services that make it so easy to have "wreckless sex." All this will do is saddle us with more children that will be denied healthcare, end up in poverty and perpetuate the cycle of violence. How do they not get this?

I thought the GOP wanted less government intrusion and yet they legislate what we can do with our very bodies. This Orr woman even has a problem with Child Protective Services calling it "the most intrusive arm of social services" and promotes limiting the definitions of abuse and neglect.

My main reaction to all of this is to throw up in my mouth a little. I am really scared we are on the verge of living out "The Handmaid's Tale"
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I've been through so many rants in my head since reading your post, aspiring, I can't even think straight now.

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The problem is that they are trying to force everyone to abstain by taking away the services that make it so easy to have "wreckless sex." All this will do is saddle us with more children that will be denied healthcare, end up in poverty and perpetuate the cycle of violence. How do they not get this?
Yes, yes, and yes.

My brain hurts. I know I lack the ability to engage in any sort of intellectual discussion at this point, so just allow me to say they don't get it because they are power-tripping, game-playing, idiots. Idiots deluxe. (Which, BTW Addict, is how you can be against birth control. Be an IDIOT. An idiot who thinks they can wag a finger at teenagers (hell, PEOPLE!) and say, "Now. Don't have sex, y'all! Mmmm-K?")

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Just when you think Dubya can't do anything dumber, he does. Roll on 2008.
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My best guess at the kind of reasoning behind such actions are that they are made from an idealistic standpoint. In an "ideal" world (according to their views), no one ever has sex outside the marriage and inside the marriage no one ever has sex for other reasons than to procreate. So, in that ideal world birth control measures would not be necessary.

It's unfortunate that this group of people fails to see that we are not living in their ideal world. Can't blame 'em really. I'd have trouble seeing too, if I had my head as far up my ass as they have...
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All over the country wives are saying....

"Honey, have you seen our Culture of Death condoms? I can't seem find them and I'd like to collaborate a little."
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What comforts me about my country's (brazil) incompetent president, is that there are worse presidents out there
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Hating on George W. Bush/his administration is somewhat of a pasttime for me.
Are you sure that is a healthy habit to develop and encourage in yourself?
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Are you sure that is a healthy habit to develop and encourage in yourself?
Of course not. And I was greatly exaggerating. It doesn't consume my life, I am just baffled at how this man became president.

I have another bad habit -- it's called hyperbole.
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To borrow a phrase from Eric Schwartz, George, "I don't tell you how to pray, so don't you tell me how to screw." UGH.

So, I just want to ask this woman if she's willing to pay more taxes to feed the little mouths created because of her asinine views. Or, y'know, we could just let them starve, right? I mean, morality stops when I actually have to do stuff!
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Speaking of religion, he's a lot like Satan in Revelation. He knows he's on his way out, but that doesn't stop him from wreaking havoc because he is no longer doing it to win the battle, but rather for its own sake.

Well, maybe not, but I enjoyed saying it.
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Satan wasn't filled with misguided, malicious fanaticism.
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Satan wasn't filled with misguided, malicious fanaticism.
In truth, he only wanted us to open our eyes.
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Of course not. And I was greatly exaggerating. It doesn't consume my life, I am just baffled at how this man became president.

I have another bad habit -- it's called hyperbole.
You do know that joking and exaggerating tends to make things a reality if done enough times, even if you don't believe in Subjective Reality?
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Yeah, Aspiring, nobody's ever really "just kidding"!
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