Always feeling Tired

[crazlunatic]

Hey guys. I am a 3rd year student in high school and am having some sleeping problems.

Basically, today I woke up at 7:30 PM, then subconciously went back to sleep and woke up at 9. It is now 1:45 and I am already tired.

I slept at 1:00 AM last night. Perhaps I am not getting enough sleep? But I should be getting enough because I don't feel tired until 1, and I wake up by myself at 7:30 - 7:40ish.

What are some tips you can give me to solve this problem? This is giving me trouble because I often fall asleep in seminars, take a nap when I get home which ruins my sleeping schedule, etc. Thank you.

[Angela]

For the last few weeks I have been fatigued and exhausted for no good reason I could find. No amount of sleep has been enough; I would wake up with reluctance and end my day in utter exhaustion. I kept invoking all my most powerful tools to manifest vitality, but it finally got so bad that Danger Man made me see a doctor. Turned out I had a bacterial infection, easily treated. What a relief. Have you seen a doctor?

Also, I've read that no age group requires more sleep than teenagers, because of the incredible changes your body is going through. Are your peers experiencing something similar?

[cdn2wheeler]

Originally Posted by Angela

I kept invoking all my most powerful tools to manifest vitality, but it finally got so bad that Danger Man made me see a doctor. Turned out I had a bacterial infection, easily treated. What a relief.

You DID manifest vitality. You went to your doc, got a proper assessment, got some drugs (or whatever) and voila, you're better now.

Let's remember that "manifesting" doesn't necessarily mean something supernatural. It's rational too. I manifested my motorcycle. It didn't suddenly just appear out of the dust in my garage; it just happened that a series of "coincidences" worked themselves out in such a way, and in such a time, that I now have it sitting in my garage.

As far as being tired, I can really relate. This past 10 days or so has been a wee bit difficult on little ol' cdn and only today am I beginning to catch up on my shuteye.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by cdn2wheeler

You DID manifest vitality. You went to your doc, got a proper assessment, got some drugs (or whatever) and voila, you're better now.

You're right. I had it that I was supposed to do it on my own, without help, and not bug anybody about it*. Sometimes I have to ask for help. Sometimes it's just stupid not to. That's a good lesson for me to learn out of this.


*zippideedoodah.

[cdn2wheeler]

Remember that joke about the fellow in New Orleans immediately after Hurricane Katrina? He was stuck up on his roof when a fellow came by in a canoe. "Hop in before you drown!"

"No," said the man, "I trust in God and He'll save me!" So the canoeist went away.

Later that day a police boat came by. "Get in and we'll take you to safety!"

"No," said the man, "I trust in God and He'll save me!" So the cops went away.

Next day a helicoper came by and dropped a rope ladder to him. "Climb up the rope and we'll take you to safety!"

"No," said the man, "I trust in God and He'll save me!" So the helo flew away.

The guy eventually drowned.

When he got to heaven, he tracked down God. "What the fark was that? I put my faith in you and you didn't save me!"

"Whaddyamean, I didn't save you? You didn't save yourself! I sent you a man in a canoe, some cops in a speedboat and even a helicopter. Whaddyawant, an engraved invitation?"

[crazlunatic]

Originally Posted by cdn2wheeler

You DID manifest vitality. You went to your doc, got a proper assessment, got some drugs (or whatever) and voila, you're better now.

Let's remember that "manifesting" doesn't necessarily mean something supernatural. It's rational too. I manifested my motorcycle. It didn't suddenly just appear out of the dust in my garage; it just happened that a series of "coincidences" worked themselves out in such a way, and in such a time, that I now have it sitting in my garage.

As far as being tired, I can really relate. This past 10 days or so has been a wee bit difficult on little ol' cdn and only today am I beginning to catch up on my shuteye.

Thanks for your responses guys. I did see a teacher and the only thing he told me was to eat more vegetables. A blood test proved nothing to be wrong.

I sleep at 1:30 - 2 and wake up at around 7:45ish to 8 so its about 6 hours of sleep. My friends don't seem to have similar problems.

[ChefSalad]

You'll think this is crazy (considering that the problem is that you're already tired), but do you exercise? Exercise is very important for sleep regulation of energy levels.

[Clarity]

Enough sleep is one thing, regular sleep is another. Primarily important is that you seek to have a regular bedtime and wakeup time. Sleeping in and napping can cause irregularities similar to jet lag. For every hour you oversleep it is like an hour of jet lag. That being said you should aim for 7-8 hours of sleep.

Cease vigorous activities prior to a reasonable bedtime. A trick is to turn your lights down or off prior to bedtime as the darkness signals to your body to shut down. Also, cool your room. about 19 C is good for sleeping. Warm milk may help calm you.

During the day drink plenty of water to hydrate your body. A dehydrated body is a tired body. Take multivitamins daily and have your blood checked for iron.

Avoid refined sugar and coffee surges.

Eat breakfast. A tired body craves food but it is really craving sleep.

[crazlunatic]

Chefsalad: Thanks I will consider excercising. I do pushups and situps everyday but I guess I should take it to the next level and jog. Another thing I should say is that this is pretty sudden. There are days where I'm full of energy and don't need to sleep. But sometimes it suddenly hits me that I have to sleep.

[crazlunatic]

Originally Posted by Clarity

Enough sleep is one thing, regular sleep is another. Primarily important is that you seek to have a regular bedtime and wakeup time. Sleeping in and napping can cause irregularities similar to jet lag. For every hour you oversleep it is like an hour of jet lag. That being said you should aim for 7-8 hours of sleep.

Cease vigorous activities prior to a reasonable bedtime. A trick is to turn your lights down or off prior to bedtime as the darkness signals to your body to shut down. Also, cool your room. about 19 C is good for sleeping. Warm milk may help calm you.

During the day drink plenty of water to hydrate your body. A dehydrated body is a tired body. Take multivitamins daily and have your blood checked for iron.

Avoid refined sugar and coffee surges.

Eat breakfast. A tired body craves food but it is really craving sleep.

I can pretty much sleep whenever and whereever if I am really tired. I can sleep with music on, and full lights on. However, I sleep with all lights closed with the exception of the LED fan lights coming from my computer. I heard that when you sleep, your brain needs to produce melatin or something like that so you won't be tired when you wake up. Will these LED lights be a problem?

[Clarity]

Also, in my religion, God created the world in 6 days and rested the 7th. He suggests that for us too. That means taking a day where you totally do things different, ie. no studying, work. Just relax and play. It really makes a difference.

[Clarity]

Originally Posted by crazlunatic

I can pretty much sleep whenever and whereever if I am really tired. I can sleep with music on, and full lights on. However, I sleep with all lights closed with the exception of the LED fan lights coming from my computer. I heard that when you sleep, your brain needs to produce melatin or something like that so you won't be tired when you wake up. Will these LED lights be a problem?

My point isn't to sleep wherever whenever. My point is to become regular. Also, yes, you should put tape on those lights, turn your clock radio away from you and darken your room.

[crazlunatic]

Clarity: I am not planning to do that. I am just saying that if at any given time you told me to sleep, I could do it right at that moment. But I don't do that. Do the lights have a huge impact? It does make my room look neat with the ambient blue but I could easily cover it with my backpack.

I dont know what you religion is but I'm pretty sure we believe in the same God. I do have a huge procrastination issue as well so I don't really have designated rest times

[Clarity]

Then I think you may have pointed out one of the culprits, the procrastination issue. For instance, here we both are on the computer. Mine says 11:21. That is time most people should be settling down to bed. So....perhaps choosing a time and discipline are key.

If you work backwards from what time you need to be up and try to fit in 8 hours what bedtime does that give you?

What is your current bedtime? Try to go 15 minutes earlier each night until you reach your goal.

Blessings.

[munish]

Originally Posted by crazlunatic

Hey guys. I am a 3rd year student in high school and am having some sleeping problems.

Basically, today I woke up at 7:30 PM, then subconciously went back to sleep and woke up at 9. It is now 1:45 and I am already tired.

I slept at 1:00 AM last night. Perhaps I am not getting enough sleep? But I should be getting enough because I don't feel tired until 1, and I wake up by myself at 7:30 - 7:40ish.

What are some tips you can give me to solve this problem? This is giving me trouble because I often fall asleep in seminars, take a nap when I get home which ruins my sleeping schedule, etc. Thank you.

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[siniy]

I often felt tired when I spent many time at computer. For example from 10 AM till 12PM with small breaks. Also it is may be a not proper on no enough meal for a day.

[Rose of Cairo]

Exercise is important.

And nutrition. What do you eat?

[Livgivare]

A sleep expert on Swedish TV4 said just resently that if a person don't get any light right after becoming awake in the morning, the brain triggers itself to sleep more and that makes the whole process of getting a good sleeping pattern useless almost. The same expert said that the main reason for people being tired, having no good sleep and constanty sleep over or wake up several times during the night is due to stress, up to 80% of all cases was stress related...The Expert also said that it was important to get enough light in the day and the key to get the day and night going great was to experiment with light and darkness and keeping day as regular as possible was a good idea. Also try to read some books about the matter. Some even consider CBT for bad sleep (several books is out in Sweden about this - Don't know about the rest of the world)...

Guess I got the right this time...my boyfriend say that it shall be dark in the room even in the morning...haha...and I said that no, I need light in the morning so I feel happy, awake and energized...and he said you must be very alone with that feeling...hahaha...and now an expert tells me that I was right...

Love Leelene

[{aspiring_to_clarity}]

You said you had a blood test...did they check your B12?

[crazlunatic]

Originally Posted by Livgivare

A sleep expert on Swedish TV4 said just resently that if a person don't get any light right after becoming awake in the morning, the brain triggers itself to sleep more and that makes the whole process of getting a good sleeping pattern useless almost. The same expert said that the main reason for people being tired, having no good sleep and constanty sleep over or wake up several times during the night is due to stress, up to 80% of all cases was stress related...The Expert also said that it was important to get enough light in the day and the key to get the day and night going great was to experiment with light and darkness and keeping day as regular as possible was a good idea. Also try to read some books about the matter. Some even consider CBT for bad sleep (several books is out in Sweden about this - Don't know about the rest of the world)...

Guess I got the right this time...my boyfriend say that it shall be dark in the room even in the morning...haha...and I said that no, I need light in the morning so I feel happy, awake and energized...and he said you must be very alone with that feeling...hahaha...and now an expert tells me that I was right...

Love Leelene

Thank you for your thorough response. May I ask what CBT is? And yes I am having LOTS of stress due to me having trouble coping with workload.

Aspiring to Clarity:
I'm not too sure. What is B12?

[{aspiring_to_clarity}]

B12 is a vitamin that is very important to the functioning of the nervous system. I just happened to get an email today before I read your post in which a friend told me she was exhausted all the time and found out from the doc she had a B12 deficiency. She has been on B12 shots (for quickness, it can also be taken as a pill) and said she feels like a new person.

From Wikipedia - Vitamin B12 deficiency

Early and even fairly pronounced deficiency does not always cause distinct or specific symptoms. Common early symptoms are tiredness or a decreased mental work capacity, decreased concentration and decreased memory, irritability and depression.

Here's the main B12 page on Wikepedia. Just a thought of something to have tested.

Good luck.

[Livgivare]

CBT = Cognitive behavioural therapy (spelling?)

This is one of the most well known therapy methods for psycologists of today. It has to do with thoughts, behaviours and actions that thoughts and behavours creates.

Those are the words you got to think of:
Thoughts, feelings, body movements according to feelings and thoughts, action that takes shape out of the body movements and what type of behaviours that all of this is creating. If you get to know all of those stuff you will end up with a good idea of who you are and what you do and why you do it.

It is extremely effective because it makes you think through things you didn't know about yourself....

Glad to be of any sort of help.

Try to get the stress go away if you could or just stop being stressed out by stress, that is easier said then done....haha...I know...

Love Leelene

[crazlunatic]

I really appreciate the amount of support I am having here. I am wondering how I can stock up on B12 without shots and pills?

Also, one thing that I forgot to mention is that sometimes I'll have to sleep very late. For example, last night I slept at 4:30 AM due to procrastination / homework / doing things I shouldn't be doing. So what happens is that I take a nap at 7:30, which ends up to be a 2 hour sleep until 9:30. And now my schedule is messed up becuase I missed 2 hours of work, and I will have to sleep later. Except, I suppose that sleeping at 2 or 3 AM on a day after I slept at 4 AM will be even more damaging. What do I do in such situations. I am starting to procrastinate less trying to use Steve Pavlina's overwhleming force strategy, but I still need to adjust.

[ciarac]

I should look at my diet if I were you.
Are you drinking coffee?
Coffee, even if only taken in the morning, can upset your sleep pattern.
Are you eating enough greens and veg in general?
Enough water?
These could all be issues.
I have increased my energy quite a lot by increasing my intake of raw food.
Here's a link to learn more about it Raw Food Media™ - The Leading source of Health Information

[{aspiring_to_clarity}]

B12 is available in foods, either naturally (meats, milk, cheese, eggs, etc) or fortified (lots of cereals, soymilks, vitamin water...tons of things have it added). I am not sure if you dislike pills or if they might be out of your budget, but there are many that are reasonably priced and available at the grocery store (at least in the US). You can also just get a multivitamin, they generally have B12.

It also seems like you would greatly benefit from a fixed sleep schedule. Random sleeping and waking times confuse your body and can make you feel exhausted.

Good luck.

[crazlunatic]

Originally Posted by ciarac

I should look at my diet if I were you.
Are you drinking coffee?
Coffee, even if only taken in the morning, can upset your sleep pattern.
Are you eating enough greens and veg in general?
Enough water?
These could all be issues.
I have increased my energy quite a lot by increasing my intake of raw food.
Here's a link to learn more about it Raw Food Media™ - The Leading source of Health Information

I sometimes drink pop. But when I stay up at night, for some reason, I go to green tea. Coffee once in a while, but mostly Japanese Green tea.

Yes I eat greens and vegs everyday, I don't know if it is enough though. Although I can tell you that recently, I've been very thirsty all the time. I have this urge to go get something to drink. At school where it maybe inconvenient since I will have to take more bathroom trips, I use gum as a substitute. But at home, I always want to drink something...

Though, this sleeping problem has been bothering me for about 2 years now.

[Angela]

crazlunatic, do you ever "crash" -- you know, lose all your power, turn a little bit white or red, get a little sweaty?

[crazlunatic]

lol ya! crash i do, no turning red, white or sweaty. crashing happens a lot. Like I'll be at school all fine and somewhat energetic, then out of nowhere, I'm all down, I'm tired, want to keep to myself. It's strange.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by crazlunatic

lol ya! crash i do, no turning red, white or sweaty. crashing happens a lot. Like I'll be at school all fine and somewhat energetic, then out of nowhere, I'm all down, I'm tired, want to keep to myself. It's strange.

I'm not a doctor. But what you've described sounds like you might want to get checked for blood sugar problems. That wouldn't necessarily show up in your normal blood test.

[crazlunatic]

but i just got a complete body check a few months ago. they even monitored my heart rate and tested my blood and everything