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I have heard of cancer cure's from people and on the web. My mother may have it in the early stages and I'm doing research for her. I've heard of Brian Peskin. Anyone have any insights on alternative cancer cures? Any help is appreciated!
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leetx! I feel very bad that your mom has had that diagnosis... and I do wish both of you the very best... However, by searching a cure for cancer on the web you are opening a Pandora's box which may leave you extremely confused in the best of cases... and with false hope in the worse scenario... Billions of dollars have been spent on research by the medical and pharmaceutical fields... and they are the best sources for cures in your case... Again, I do wish you the very best... . |
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Hi leetx, I would recommend that your mother contact an oncologist right away. Here is more information on oncology: Oncology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Also, nutrition can slow down or reverse the progression of cancer (I read that in the book The China Study by nutrition professor Colin Campbell). This is primarily accomplished by switching to a plant-based diet and avoiding foods containing animal protein. You may want to talk to a cancer specialist or registered dietitian for more information. Brian Peskin seems like he may be a fraud: Brian Peskin Charged with Deception |
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| NLP Weekly » Healing Cancer With NLP is a nice article.
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I don't happen to know of any alternative cures, but I think they're worthy of investigation. I'm glad some others have recommended sources. It sounds like you have an opportunity to put all your courage and strength forward. I wish you and your mom success.
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| Brianpeskin.com boasted a >80% success rate with his 3 steps anti metastatic protocol (in conjunction with std therapy to eliminate the compact tumor mass ). - EFAs blend - minerals - herbs ( essiac tea ) as detoxifier / heavy metal chelator Brian peskin's reponse to the quackery charge "The China study" belongs to the dustbin. The book is so misleading that i do not even plan to auction or sell it to others with fear that it would cause harm to others. Why the book is so bad ? 1 ) It lumps all the fats together and failed to differentiate the bad from the good one. 2 ) It doesnt take into account of the effect of different cooking temperature and cooking style on food quality ( excessive grilling vs normal cooking ). For example, if you grill your apple would it still be nutritious ? 3 ) Wrongfully blame natural protein and fats for the problem while ignoring the most dangerous culprits - the processed vegetable oil, trans fats ,excessive usage of alcohol, refined carbs + paritially hydrogenated oil found in thousand of products in supermarket , food processing ( high heat, addictives, hormorne ) and etc . Sometimes i wonder if the author is an animal imposter trying to stop human from eating animal food from all sources. I have nothing bad to say about love and compassion for animal but scientific accuracy (and of course your health) must always come first. Good luck Last edited by escapee; 09-04-2007 at 02:48 AM. |
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The author of the China Study says this on page 242: "One of the most fortunate findings from the mountain of nutritional research I've encountered is that good food and good health is simple. The biology of the relationship of food and health is exceptionally complex, but the message is still simple. The recommendations coming from the published literature are so simple that I can state them in one sentence: eat a whole foods, plant-based diet, while minimizing the consumption of refined foods, added salt, and added fats." He also says to minimize these foods (in the chart on page 243): Refined carbohydrates: pastas (except whole grain varieties), white bread, crackers, sugars and most cakes and pastries Added vegetable oils: corn oil, peanut oil, olive oil While he doesn't necessarily distinguish between good fats and bad fats, the foods he recommends in the chart on page 243 are unprocessed whole foods (like fruits, vegetables, and whole grains). This article by Steve and the following comments also have a lot of interesting points: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...e-china-study/ | |
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The book spends more than 50% of the pages in blaming fats and animal protein. This is just plain wrong when Animal food provides first class protein, natural B12 and anti cancer chelated minerals ( ex : chelated Iron, Zinc and etc ). In page 243 ( the chart ). The Author also recommend reducing/avoiding MEAT intake regardless of the source, cooking oil and cooking style. So it's awfully misleading . Another misleading quote on page 242 " THe findings from the CHINA STUDY indicate that the lower the percentage of animal based food that are consumed , the greater the health benefits - even when that percentage declines from 10% to 0% " The China study is not the book you want to read if you want updated nutritional information .I know it's going to sound really impressive for people who are new to nutrition but it's not going to work for me and others. Last edited by escapee; 09-04-2007 at 03:50 AM. |
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I wouldn't say there is necessarily a "cure", but if you want your body to work optimally, to repair itself quickly and defend against disease, you should fuel it optimally. There's a lot of controversy over what the optimal diet is, but most people will agree it consists of the most 'natural' foods available. You will have to figure out for yourself what natural foods are. I think so many people have it wrong when they treat the body as weak. Nobody gives the human body enough credit. The human body is amazing. It can repair itself, fight off infection, process toxins, and shield itself from uncountable amounts of environmental hazards. And it would work so much better if we just listened instead of ignoring the signs that things aren't working. |
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If you don't like the China Study, what other books would you recommend? | |
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Is this book good for nutritional information? Amazon.com: Fantastic Voyage: Live Long Enough to Live Forever: Books: Ray Kurzweil,Terry Grossman leetx, to get back to your original question, there is clearly a lot of disagreement about nutrition on the Internet. I would recommend that you contact a specialist (or, even better, contact multiple specialists in oncology, cancer nutrition, and alternative medicine). Especially look for a positive track record. Were these people able to successfully treat cancer in their patients? Last edited by Zukin; 09-04-2007 at 12:50 PM. |
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I also would recommend an oncologist and a surgeon right away. As a six-year survivor of cancer, I say cover all your bases. Go the traditional route with your oncologist; start making all the changes necessary in your personal life and diet, etcetera, to optimize your results. Exercise! Fresh Air! My pharmacist worked with me in conjunction with my oncologist to set up a regimen of supplements to once again optimize my results. Have a positive attitude. While having chemotherapy treatments, I would close my eyes and imagine the chemo taking the form of little Pac Men eating all the bad cancer cells in my body Do your research and find products, processes and lifestyle changes that resonate with you. Make changes for LIFE. Use this event as an opportunity to search within yourself for strength and purpose. Get your priorities in order and once again make these changes for life. Believe it or not, cancer can be a blessing in disguise. Peace. |
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He offers part of the story for free as a PDF downloadable file as below http://www.brianpeskin.com/NEXUS%20H...%20Article.pdf Quote:
I have lost plenty of relatives under std Chemo so i know that when that little zombies reached the advanced stage ( metastasis ), allopath ( Chemo, radiation ) alone is usually a loser. Last edited by escapee; 09-05-2007 at 03:52 AM. | ||
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Prostacyclin - AA IS THE PRECURSOR TO PROSTACYCLIN - the most potent anti aggretory agent ( A natural blood thinner ) and inhibitor of platelet adhesion. Prostacyclin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote:
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I have read a few... there seem to be some who are pro and some who are con... If you have any question about any of those articles... just post them here... someone should be able to give you some guidance... Again... the very best of luck to you... . | |
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Me as real life experience but it's not cancer related. Losing 40 + lbs without suffering . Blood pressure back to normal and better blood circulation. All because of having these 2 highly sensitive essential fats back to my diet. Try telling this to people who're sicken they should start doing the seeds and nuts instead of cholesterol lowering drugs but it didnt work . Apparently, Nobody is going to believe a layman ( who happened to understand Brian's work) with no medical credentials. Nut consumption, vegetarian diets, ischemic heart disease risk, and all-cause mortality: evidence from epidemiologic studies -- Sabaté 70 (3): 500S -- American Journal of Clinical Nutrition |
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Please don't put all your faith in alternative treatments to cancer. I lost my aunt to a breast cancer that would have been very treatable when it was first discovered. Unfortunately, she choose not to have any operation and instead put all her faith (and ultimately her life) in the hands of macro biotic diets and other "treatments". I'm not saying that all alternative treatments are bad per se, nor that regular medicine is perfect... just don't put all your eggs in one basket. Cancer is a particularly nasty disease (it is more or less an organism's self-destruct mechanism), so you need to bring out all the guns. Jim. |
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However I do agree with you that we cant put all eggs in one basket. conventional and nutritional treatment should go hand in hand ( i refused to call it 'alternative' because all these healing essential fats/protein/minerals/vitamins are our food and medicine at the same ) . There is simply no alternatives for all the essential nutrients that we need daily. Essential nutrient - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | |
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Well, I didn't say it was the self-destruction mechanism of the cells, but of the organism as a whole. That is (from what I've understood), some if not all cancers are genetically pre-programmed to a certain extent. Given the "right" conditions, healthy cells will transform into cancerous cells as per the instructions laid out in their DNA. (Obviously, in reality, it is much more complicated, with factors like cell mutation also in play...) |
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Hi there, A few months ago, I met a fire chief from Colorado on a plane. We were sat together, and he told me that he was returning from Toronto, where his father-in-law had been for over a month, trying to ease his body which was riddled with cancer. His father-in-law, age 80, went to this alternative place in Toronto with huge lymph nodes all down his chest after, pretty much, being told that there wasn't any hope. Apparently, he came away from the alternative place in Toronto looking 10 years younger and cancer free. I have no reason to believe that this guy on the plane would lie to me. Unfortunately, I don't know the name of the alternative facility in Canada so that you could inquire more about it. I do know that a part of his therapy included Alkalizing his diet (I've read that disease cannot live in a more alkaline body), lots of colonics/hydrotherapy, diet, and lots of other stuff. I'm telling you this not to get your hopes up or put all eggs in one basket, but just in case it might help in some way. I don't live in Colorado anymore but will try to see if I can find this guy to get the name of the facility in Toronto if you're interested. From a diet standpoint, another doctor who backs up his opinions with real clinical studies and whom I do tend to believe in is Dr. Blaylock. He's written a couple of books and has a monthly newsletter that you can get online etc. All the best to you. |
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