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Old 08-03-2007, 12:31 AM   #31 (permalink)
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AFAIK its a post review, not a permanent ban. vBulletin just uses that status indicator by default when an account is temporarily disabled.
Someone ought to change that status indicator then... we were only a little away from people marching on the streets!

Anyway, hi again, Shamou.
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:37 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I know shamou pretty well, and have so for a couple years now, and he's the guy that directed me to this site. I enjoy it, but unfortunately have:

a. a full time (and then some) job, around 55-60 hours/week
b. a toddler. And we all know that they never turn 'off'.
c. night school for a few more months
d. another site where I am a security analyst, and that chews up a lot of time, parsing logs and the ilk.
e. can't get here from work, as it's listed as a personal site, as opposed to a forum site. Weird websense rules, and yes, as a console jockey, I could easily bypass them, but that's not exactly leading by example, now, is it?

I do need to spend more time here, obviously, but I would like to go on record that because of him, I'm here, and I've directed a few like minded people here, and I've danced the dance with shamou enough times on virtually every subject under the sun to know that, while we certainly don't see eye to eye on everything, we are both logical enough to realize that the others opinion/viewpoint is nothing more than that, an opinion/viewpoint.

I know I've learned a lot from that crazy canuck, and I hope he can say the same of me (but as he's got more knowledge and self-confidence in his pinkie than I'll see in a lifetime, I doubt it), and it's very, very refreshing to read the positive comments regarding a person that I consider myself lucky to have met, and lucky to debate with over some rather deep topics.

Regardless, it's good to see that there are others who feel as I do about shamou. Good guy, bit crazy (canuck, remember?) and an extremely well-versed orator in just about any subject matter you'd care to discuss.

Again, I'll try to make it a point to get here more often; bottom line, until night school finishes late in the year, it will be sporadic at best.

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Old 08-03-2007, 02:49 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Welcome back Shamou! The forums wouldn't be the same without you.
Thank you Z… you are an angel…

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we were only a little away from people marching on the streets!

Anyway, hi again, Shamou.
That’s funny… almost worth the time out… thank you…

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we are both logical enough to realize that the others opinion/viewpoint is nothing more than that, an opinion/viewpoint.
Again, always the logical engineer, man of letter, published author etc… I miss you tons… and thank you for your very kind words…
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:15 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Shamou, I haven't been on here in a couple of days and missed this as it was happening, but had I been in the thick of it, I assure you I would have been in your corner fighting for you.

I am still in shock of the episode even happening here, but glad it turned out as it should have.
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Shamou, I haven't been on here in a couple of days and missed this as it was happening, but had I been in the thick of it, I assure you I would have been in your corner fighting for you.

I am still in shock of the episode even happening here, but glad it turned out as it should have.

Jill! Thank you so much for saying that… you cannot believe how much it is appreciated… you are a very nice person...
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Old 08-03-2007, 07:47 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Just why was Shamou banned?
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Cause he has to say something about everything?
Cause he puts 3 dots after each sentence ... ??
Besides this he seems to be a nice dude.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:27 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Thank you guys... soooo nice to be back...

I have a lot of very nice people to thank... especially... Steve, Angela, seeker5, {aspiring_to_clarity}, Gordon... (thank you for being ready to start a war over this... ) ZHereford, silicon toad2000, openeyes, Adrienne, Matthew Shea and jamestl2 for starting this thread...

You guys are top... and I love you...
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Well Shamou great to have you back....and some things are worth fighting for...!! I think the response you can see from everyone (and it doesn't need me to really say), say that you are loved and respected too by many on here.

Go for 5000 posts my good chap!!

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I'm very glad to see you back, Shamou!

I guess you'll have to cut back on posting the bikini pictures, eh?
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Glad to have you back. What ever did you do while you weren't posting here?
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Cause he has to say something about everything?
Don’t you just love a “know-it-all” ???

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Cause he puts 3 dots after each sentence ... ??
I get paid by the bytes… everything counts…

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Besides this he seems to be a nice dude.
My dog think so also…

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some things are worth fighting for...!!
If this site had a logo… I think that those words should be it…

I owe you one my friend… so, thank you again…

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I guess you'll have to cut back on posting the bikini pictures, eh?
From now on… they shall be forwarded via PM…

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What ever did you do while you weren't posting here?
To make matters worse, the morning I received the news that I was banned, my wife had left for a four day vacation by the sea… luckily I also belong to four other sites devoted to PD… but they are not as hot as this one… but, beggars cannot be choosers…

Thank you for asking…
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:22 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Welcome back, nothing new to say, but the forums wouldn't be the same without you
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To make matters worse, the morning I received the news that I was banned, my wife had left for a four day vacation by the sea… luckily I also belong to four other sites devoted to PD… but they are not as hot as this one…
I'm curious - what are the other four PD sites you frequent? I'm guessing one is the anthony robbin site but I have no clue about the other ones.

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Old 08-03-2007, 03:40 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'm curious - what are the other four PD sites you frequent? I'm guessing one is the anthony robbin site but I have no clue about the other ones.


I will not give the links here but they are…

1. TSG… a forum mainly used to help people with PC problems but it also has a general forum where I was heavily involved in introducing PD… those folks are very conservative.. and I did get into some beautiful and nasty flaming wars… lots of fun though…

2. SuccessVibes… pretty good site… however not a very large membership…

3. Psychology&Self-help… English based… lots of psychologists there… long drawn out posts…

PS. I don’t know if it is appropriate to post this info here… if not… any MOD can remove this post… I had enough problems for one week…
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:50 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I will not give the links here but they are…

1. TSG… a forum mainly used to help people with PC problems but it also has a general forum where I was heavily involved in introducing PD… those folks are very conservative.. and I did get into some beautiful and nasty flaming wars… lots of fun though…

2. SuccessVibes… pretty good site… however not a very large membership…

3. Psychology&Self-help… English based… lots of psychologists there… long drawn out posts…

PS. I don’t know if it is appropriate to post this info here… if not… any MOD can remove this post… I had enough problems for one week…
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Thanks. I'm sure they wouldn't mind the links, they seem to have a liberal attitude toward linking to sites that helps the users. But considering your very recent experience, I can understand your hesitation Can you send me links via pm?
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Welcome back, Shamou. What did you do with your time off? Some whitewater rafting perhaps?
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:32 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Thank you Andrew...

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From post #40... this thread:

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PS. - You can slow this guy down... but you can't stop him...
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PS. I don’t know if it is appropriate to post this info here… if not… any MOD can remove this post… I had enough problems for one week…
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Heh, if you started to seriously think there was a problem with posting such information then this whole banning schemozzle would be a tragic affair!
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:00 AM   #48 (permalink)
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i agree shamou brings somewhat shamanistic wisdom to the forum
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i agree shamou brings somewhat shamanistic wisdom to the forum
Thank you karlos... very nice of you to say that...
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:48 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I have a good friend of mine who is a 'Business Persuasion Consultant'!! He paid about £2000 to join a very exclusive training forum. He got upset with the main operator of the forum and publicly disagreed with them on several things....then they banned my friend (after 1 month)....oh how I laughed!!!

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I will not give the links here but they are…

1. TSG… a forum mainly used to help people with PC problems but it also has a general forum where I was heavily involved in introducing PD… those folks are very conservative.. and I did get into some beautiful and nasty flaming wars… lots of fun though…

2. SuccessVibes… pretty good site… however not a very large membership…

3. Psychology&Self-help… English based… lots of psychologists there… long drawn out posts…

PS. I don’t know if it is appropriate to post this info here… if not… any MOD can remove this post… I had enough problems for one week…
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I'm sure they wouldn't mind the links, they seem to have a liberal attitude toward linking to sites that helps the users. But considering your very recent experience, I can understand your hesitation Can you send me links via pm?
As moderators, our goal is definitely not to get rid of legitimate resources that could help people, but to curtail things like spam, attempts to post links to websites that offer no value to the forum/forum members, etc.

So long as the member posting the links is adhering to the Forum Rules, we generally have no problems with members posting links. And I say "generally" because there may be some extreme situations that aren't covered by the forum rules, which would require the moderators/admin to give the matter special consideration and perhaps update/change the forum rules if necessary. Such situations are a rarity, though, and nothing to really be concerned about.

If a particular member is unsure of what they can or cannot post, they are quite welcome to contact a moderator. That doesn’t mean we (ie. the moderators) want to be inundated with hundreds of PMs from members who haven’t read the forum rules (you can inundate Steve and Erin instead... kidding! ), but if a member is genuinely looking for help, we’re more then happy to provide it. Usually we can cover just about anything, but if a member feels it necessary, they can also contact the admin (Steve and Erin).

So to sum up: Yes, Shamou can post links so long as he -- say it with me -- adheres to the Forum Rules.

But remember, Shamou -- the great EYE of Sauron <cut to me making a circular shape with my fingers> is forever watchful!

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(Yes, that was a Lord of the Rings reference, and yes, I was kidding. Oh and yes, you may also call me a geek if you wish. )
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As moderators, our goal is definitely not to get rid of legitimate resources that could help people,
Well, in this case, I do think that these three sources are very legitimate and could be helpful to people looking to improve on their PD expertise... so, here goes...

Anthony Robbins Web Community

SuccessVibe.com

Psychology & Self Help Forum

However... I honestly believe that "Personal Development for Smart People Forum" is by far the best... and most active site...
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:59 PM   #53 (permalink)
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So, did Shamou get banned again? He posted earlier today and when I just read his post now, I noticed his status read "banned". I went to PM him, and the option to PM him is no longer there.

So....?
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Seems that way, says he's banned for me too. Wonder what he did this time?
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Seems that way, says he's banned for me too. Wonder what he did this time?
What do you mean he's banned for you too? Were you able to contact him after he was banned?
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What do you mean he's banned for you too? Were you able to contact him after he was banned?
I just meant he shows up banned on my screen.
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I just meant he shows up banned on my screen.
Oh, I see.

I looked at some of his recent posts and nothing seemed out of place. I didn't read all of the jokes, though, so maybe he had one that was off color.
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I hope he's not banned again. I've definitely disliked some of his posts, disagreed strongly with others, and been irritated by yet more, but this forum wouldn't be the same without him; he's contributed some good stuff.
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Unfortunately Shamou has been permanently banned this time. After repeatedly asking him to stop derailing threads, he kept on doing so with seemingly little concern for how it was affecting others, especially in the I-M and Psi forums. The mods and I continued to receive complaints about him, several just in the past few days.

We discussed this in the mods forum, and the consensus was that Shamou just wasn't going to follow the posted forum rules no matter how much we asked him to and would have to be dropped as a forum member. He's still free to read the forums, but he won't be able to post anymore.

I emailed Shamou to let him know and told him I regret that it had to turn out like this.

My responsibility is to preserve the value of these forums for all members. While I'm not a stickler for mindless rules, I think the rule set we have here is very fair and helps make this community so unique, open, and intelligent in its discussions. Every member agrees to adhere to the community rules when joining.

I opted to close this thread, since I really don't want it to turn into a big divisive argument about whether Shamou should or shouldn't have been banned. I take responsibility for the decision, so if you wish to share your opinion on it with me, feel free to PM me.
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