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05-28-2007, 07:41 PM
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 I am Doc West and I need help with a friend who is dying of cancer. Thank you for the chance to educate myself. I have a friend who is twenty nine years old and he is dying of cancer. It is in his brain now, he has lost his ability to walk, his left eye is blind and his right ear is deaf, and he is now having instances of total blindness. He has a loving wife and a six year old son and four year old daughter, and he is moving from their house up the coast to his wife's mom's house, because it is closer to the hospital he is using to fight this cancer. My business partner and freind of over twenty years is his father-in-law and everyone in his wife's family and his are and have been as supportive as possible, but what has scared me is the fact that he is moving into his mother-in-law's house and they are in the proccess of renting a hospital bed for him. I feel that he may go to bed in that house and never leave the bed. Which is proably true and there is nothing I or the family can do for that except move to the next level, and that level I believe is hospice care, in the family's house. So I need to educate myself and the family needs to educate themselves about death, the steps that must be taken to accept that death, both by the dying and the living, and how and what should we do to support the children and how they relate to their daddy dying? Any thoughts, books you think we should read, or articles we should read, anything at all will be appreciated. Thank you all in advance, Doc West      |
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05-28-2007, 07:45 PM
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05-28-2007, 08:54 PM
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| Very sorry to hear about your predicament... I hope that this article written by Romayne Gallagher, MD, CCFP, Director, Division of Palliative Care, Department of Family Practice, University of British Columbia could offer some help... (click here) . |
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05-28-2007, 11:13 PM
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| I am so sorry to hear about your situation. Here's an article that might be helpful. Keep in mind, this comes from a Christian Website (in case this contradicts your spiritual beliefs, I wanted to make you aware), but there is good information here of a non-spiritual nature as well. Dealing with the death: James Watkins
__________________ 11 Causes of Procrastination and Their Cures Resolve Arguments like a Pro with 7 Proven Techniques Are You an American Zombie? How I OverCame a Crippling Anxiety Disorder |
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05-30-2007, 10:01 PM
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| I am so sorry Doc West. I don't know if he is conscious, or do the doctors think if he has any chance for surviving.. I read this book, and this man claimed he can cure the worst cases just by dieting: Vita Naturalis - cancer It's just that this whole site is about the power of positive perspective, and about the miracle of human mind. So the first thing that comes to my mind is hope. And,of course, I don't know the whole situation, so please excuse me if I'm being ignorant. I pray that God gives you a miracle.
__________________ You'll always miss 100% of the shots you don't take |
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05-30-2007, 10:22 PM
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05-31-2007, 01:25 AM
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| I'm so sorry, Doc West, to hear of your friend's failing health. I'm a cancer survivor of six years. The best advice I can give you is to reach out to the American Cancer Society as well as to a sub-group of theirs called Reach for Recovery, which is staffed by volunteer survivors. While their name is all about recovery, they are really all about support for cancer sufferers and their families. I've worked with cancer patients who survived and several who didn't survive. Our purpose is simply to be there and provide whatever support and friendship we can. Sometimes this is simply visitation. At times we help provide transportation to treatment. We help make patients aware of what resources are out there and help them avail themselves of those resources. While doctors and nurses and hospice caregivers are all very necessary, it has been my experience to be on both the receiving and the giving end of this type of support. Cancer survivors can help cancer patients in ways that no doctor or nurse can do. I hope this helps. |
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05-31-2007, 04:32 AM
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05-31-2007, 05:10 PM
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__________________ You'll always miss 100% of the shots you don't take |
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06-01-2007, 05:38 AM
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I will be looking forward to hearing from you... . |
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06-02-2007, 11:30 AM
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| I'm really impressed that you think I have a time to collect all the cases, and present it to you and try to convince you to believe it. But then , looking at your 1290 post, I might realize why you think that. Anyway , this man, who is now making his own herbal products, doesn't have a web site, or anything, but I can give you his phone number so you can ask him in person. But I have to warn you, he speaks Croatian. If you want other cases, you might consider using Google, there are a plenty of cases noted on the Internet, but then, I don't know if they will also bother to prove it to you with their medical records, pictures, illustrations, booklets or something you consider provable. But then again , they might. Who knows, you can always try...
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06-02-2007, 04:09 PM
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Billions of dollars have been spent on cancer researches done by some of the word's brightest minds... and to think that some lone person has found a cure that they have not is simply ludicrous... . |
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06-02-2007, 04:34 PM
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| Then it's a good thing that I didn't tell you to see a part in a Secret movie considering cancer healing just by positive attitude. :-)) Well, the conclusion is: you believe what ever you want to believe, it's perfectly fine with me. And I'm not going to be the one who will try to reassure you. So keep looking for the one who will, you are in a right place.
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06-02-2007, 07:32 PM
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06-04-2007, 05:47 PM
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| Don't give up!!! Doc West, I don’t know what are your beliefs or your friend’s, but not matter what they are, I’d advice you, or the wife of your friend, or the mother of your friend to do this(if your friend can’t, because of his health conditions) : go in Romania, the city is called Iasi, at the church Sf. Paraschiva or the church Sf. Dumitru in Bucharest and bring with you something personal of your friend(something he wears usually-cloths). Talk to the pastor(they usually speak English, too) and tell him what’s going on. He’ll pray together with everybody in the church and put holly water and oil on the cloths that you brought. After that, your friend must wear those cloths and pray and he’ll me miraculously healed. I know this because the best friend of my mom was saved from death, her husband went to the church Sf. Dumitru in Bucharest with her cloths and did what I’ve just told you. She had been told by the doctors that there was no hope for her. But now she lives a happy life with her husband 2 children. |
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06-04-2007, 07:48 PM
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Stop to consider how much money wouldn't be earned if everyone knew the simple cure. The worlds "brightest" minds huh? I'd say the worlds brightest brainwashed minds. If I'm sounding a bit harsh, consider my mom died of cancer, before I knew what was going on. ******************** The massive increase in our century of cancers is so simple its stupifying. Atmospheric testing (now banned) of atomic energy, periodical accidental nuclear fall outs, (radioactive particles have a half-life of 50,000 years) and the uncontrolled and rampant use of synthetic chemicals in food, medicines, the drinking water supply, and personal and household cleaning supplies. Synthetic chemicals and the human organic body? The human body will sadly always lose. The cure? -- Daily intake of very dense, Green, non-pesticided vegetables with provide the extreme amounts of densely packed nutrition the human organic body needs to combat the chemicals and radiation in the system. Kombucha green tea, which cured this person's mother of breast cancer. He went so far as to create it for mass consumption. --Total and complete avoiding of processed and pesticided foods and drinks. -- Drinking Lots of pure water. To flush the toxins out. -- Increased amounts of oxygen added to the body. Last edited by infinitethoughts : 06-04-2007 at 07:50 PM. |
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06-04-2007, 08:48 PM
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| I send you my deepest wishes of symapthy and compassion. I am sure you will hear many stories of others with cancer while you go through this difficult time, so I will only tell you what I know from experience in an effort to be of assistance. My father in law was diagnosed with stage four lung small cell lung cancer. Small cell spreads quickly and the cancer was already in the liver and lymph nodes. My husband and I found a lot of answers to our questions at huntsmancancer.org My father in law is also receiving chemo at huntsman. From what the doctors told us, once cancer reaches the brain, there isn't much left to do. As far as curing through diet, my father in law was living on an all fast food and alcohol diet prior to his diagnosis. Once he learned he had cancer he made radical changes to his diet and now eats all organic fruits and vegetables. Because of the liver cancer he was jaundiced, and the change in diet has significantly impoved his jaundice as well as his energy level. But, I would be wary of any claims that diet change will cure all. I know my husband and I feel like we would do anything to spare someone we love from cancer, but I think if a miracle is going to happen, the miracle will come to him. Traveling all over the world in hopes of a cure will probably be a very discouraging experience. I wish I had more advice and answers, but truth is I am still trying to figure it all out myself. If you would like to talk please send me a message. I know for me it is difficult to talk about my concerns and fears with those around me since I know they are struggling as well. |
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06-04-2007, 08:51 PM
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While you're at it... could you also give us the cure for aid, the solution for world hunger and world pace...???  . |
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06-04-2007, 08:55 PM
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06-06-2007, 05:26 PM
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| Dear Docwest Sorry to know abt your friends son. I too feel its not good to shift in hospital if care is possible at home. I know there is no cure but still simple breathing exercises called 'Pranayama' in Sanskrit can help it. A swami in India called Baba Ramdeo has suggested two main exercises called Kapalbhati and anulom-vilom which are to be done for 1/2 hour each (total 1 Hr) every morning and evening. The site is .:: Divya Yog Mandir (Trust) ::. Swami claims to have treated worst cases of cancer using this exercise. He will definately feel better I am sure. Sunil |
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06-06-2007, 05:51 PM
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