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I ask because I am using intention manifestation actively in my musical work and think it would be fun to compare notes with other musicians doing the same. So....????
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I also play guitar, and a tiiinyyy bit piano. Personally, I'd like to IM meeting new musicans and forming a fun and talented band. It's something I'd really love to do, but have had some trouble finding musicians my age that are chill and open minded.
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Here's a musician with IM experience for 7 years. Yeah, I've always wanted to be "a great songwriter", "a great singer", "a great piano/guitar player". "Just what you want to be you will be in the end" Nights in White Satin, The Moody Blues. "There's no thing you can done that can't be done... etc." All you need is love, The Beatles. Bono talks about this song saying that he thinks that when The Beatles wrote about Love they talked about believing in being able to achieve things, etc. IM may be as old as the world. "Where are we going John (Lennon)?" "To the top, guys" "And where is it?" "To the toppermost of the poppermost" (the most famous thing in pop music) And they did!. That dialogue was usual when The Beatles playing in small pubs and were hopeless. I sometimes called the IM, the Toppermost of the Poppermost Law. I'm a Beatle fan, I can help it. :-) |
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I'm a pianist and a classical music enthusiest. I haven't used IM with it, but piano has been a part of personal development for me. Practicing is a meditative experience, and I use it to re-orient myself and simply enjoy an hour of solitude each day.
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I am a singer and voice teacher here in Switzerland. I definitely believe in IM. For several months I have been wishing for a baby grand for my apartment. Yesterday I got the call from an old woman who needs someone to babysit hers for her. Amazing. |
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Ati, I see that you're an Internist. Very cool! I'm a physician too - I did my training in India and am now in the process of finishing my boards in the US. I'm only an amateur guitar player but played with a cover band back in med school. And oh, hello everyone. This is the icebreaker post |
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I play bass in a band. (www.myspace.com/8past) I also play guitar and keyboard, write songs, and attempt to sing. I've never consciously tried IM, but well... playing and writing music has been a dream/goal of mine for a long time, and here I am doing it. It's far from a living, but well, I've certainly had dreams of making it.... |
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I'm an ex-Deejay, ex-Rock Vocalist, Guitar & Keyboard player. I publish music online and I had an EP out earlier this year. You'll find my work at broadjam and acidplanet. Currently, concentrating on my career as a fashion designer so I've moved out of the music scene for now. But I still play for fun and with friends.
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Hmm, everyone is a guitarist and keyboardist, huh? To add to the cliche...I'm one too (although I can't play a tune on the keys very well!). I haven't used IM yet either but since coming here my songwriting has reflected my change in conscience, as I imagine every musician here could say.
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Besides composing and singing... To be honest my music haven't had change a thing since I know this web... I had similar beliefs before but now I see some people like me and more explanation about them. | |
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I'm also a musician - aspiring pro. I have used IM to get me motivated to finish projects and in a creative, productive frame of mind, and have seen results come from that. I haven't used it to try to gain wealth and riches yet... ...because I think a big trap of being an aspiring pro musician is focusing on the results and not the process. In the past I have expected my success to make me, rather than making my success. For example, I would say, "Ah, once I hit it big, THEN I will be REALLY creative and adventurous." But really, when you look at the pros, they would have worked just as hard whether they were underground and unrecognized their whole life as they did when they were in the spotlight. Actually, now that I knew a few pros, being pro is not a cakewalk - it might even be more of a grind than their day jobs were. But at the end of it all they get to do what they love, which makes it all worth while. Coincidentally, I'm now working on a demo to send to labels, but I have gotten myself stuck, because I'm focusing on what I'll have to do IF I succeed vs. just pouring my enthusiasm into my songs. --- On a related note, are there "groups" on this board? It might be interesting to start a "musicians" group to discuss these issues further? |
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Another musician here. A jazz guitarist who does not play, a composer who does not compose, a student that does not study.... I'm currently very confused about what to do with my life. This blog has triggered my inner powerful questioning machinery and I don't feel comfortable any more. Now I want to go to play the guitar... Why is so extremely difficult for me to pick the guitar and play? But when I'm on it, then the difficult thing is to stop playing. cheers |
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I'm involved (on this forum !!) with a group investigating and reporting on our intentions (Intention-Manifestation), one doing the same with polyphasic or other altered sleep patterns aiming at healthy and efficient sleep (the board about health, forgot its real name for the moment, you'll see it), and a few other groups based on common interest, but so far not aimed at particular directions. I'd love to engage in starting a musician's group, whether we just "chatted" about musical things, or actually developed a group aim or direction such as hmm...practicing every day?? or something else perhaps. We could even have two groups, one for general discussion and things that come up, news and morning announcements, and another one for a specific purpose at any time such a thing came up. Whaddyathink? Polonius (or shall I call you Funk? Also what does this mean? I'm focusing on what I'll have to do IF I succeed vs. just pouring my enthusiasm into my songs. What will you have to do that will keep you from pouring more enthusiasm into songs? I wish you the best in getting this out, let us know when you do, if you like !! I have heard and read many times from "famous" musicians whose only "job" is music have said that they don't feel they have enough time to do what they want in music, whether it's practicing something they want to learn or perfect, or working on a composition or arrangement that's in their minds trying to find a way out. So, maybe this is a universal condition, no? Andrew, just a suggestion, you could if you wanted to go over to the I-M page, find the sticky on top and put your intention down there. I don't know what kind of magic we are making there but people are supporting each other and today I'm putting a second sticky up for people to report on what they've manifested, that's by request of several frequent flyers on our board there. Also, just my curiosity what would it mean for a musician to be "my age that are chill and open minded"? I ask because I am also trying to get a group together...I live in a real small town in the mountains out here and my next step here does need to be to get a group together to play regularly.. and it's not like living near a university or in a bigger town... Antarananda, best of luck with the IM Boards ! and please, please allow me to argue with you here. What do you mean " only an amateur guitar player" when you can not only play with a band but do that while in med school? Vorhidin, I surely understand what you are saying and I doubt there is a musician amongst us who hasn't had times like that. I think the second part of what you say is key: "But when I'm on it, then the difficult thing is to stop playing." I expect you've read some of Steve Pavlina's blog entries. He puts it well for a lot of things, and it certainly goes for music--if you just get started, make yourself get the guitar out--buy a tuner so you can tune it quickly--and say you're going to play for 5 minutes by the clock, no doubt that what you just said will kick in and there you'll be, playing again! All best to all of you, if you're interested, let's see what we can do. This is the intro board. I can think of a couple boards that a thread like this would fit into, including the Intention-Manifestation board, others as well. Perhaps we should see what develops and if we have something after a week or so, consider moving somewhere else, where people who've been on for awhile and might not hit the intro board might catch sight of us? I think there are actually quite a few musicians on the forum and an active music thread would probably fit on just about any active board! All best! Ati
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Remember you all the Subjective Reality of The Beatles. When they played clubs with little success they were often down... so they asked themselves... "Where are we going?" "To the top!" "And where's is that?" "In the top, the toppermost of the poppermost!!!" Remind the show "The Tops of the Pops"... the Beatles fooled themselves thinking they were gonna be the greatest musical stars ever... And they succeed LOL... That's why I started wondering about these things, that now I see are called IM, or Subjective Reality. (But then again, who created the Beatles intentions? my conscience or theirs? "The Toppermost of the Poppermost law" is not exactly the IM law, is the positive thinking in spite of whatever... You keep believing you're gonna reach "the impossible" in spite of the situation that may not manifest a thing. |
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I play sax... mostly alto, but I pick up a tenor or soprano once in a while. I haven't played with a band since high school, but I loved jazz. I'd like to go back to playing with a jazz group, but I'm in the middle of cow-country at the moment, and cows just can't hit the altissimo...
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Well... I'm not agree. In fact the reverse is true. I KNOW that I will enjoy it. I don't know why I don't start doing it. I imagine me doing it and being happy... I just don't do it. And when I dare to pick the guitar or the piano and start playing, or composing, I can't leave it because I'm enjoying it so much, only when I'm exhausted. I know this indicates that I fear something. I usually suffer from not doing things that I like to do. (Another thing to the list. Maybe I just fear the act of letting me go, to take the initiative and the responsability... We act like very complicated apes, don't you think so? (Apart, I find funny this situation of having to communicate in english, -forum's official lingua franca, instead of talking in our common mother language, compañero...) Last edited by Vorhidin; 11-15-2006 at 01:22 AM. Reason: ortography errors | |
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I'm learning to become a musician (as a hobby). I've been proactively learning how to play piano and guitar, and also about music theory. I've attempted recording my "own pieces" that were mostly improvised and made into short music clips. I realize I have still a lot to learn, but it is very exciting and is definitely one of my favorite hobbies. I mostly do my recording and editing on the computer, and my instruments of choice are a guitar and a keyboard, which is hooked up to a very realistic instrument sampler on my computer. It's very cool to see how many other musicians frequent this board. ~Alex |
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As for "focusing on what I'll have to do IF I succeed," I guess I should have said "WORRYING about what I'll do when I succeed" - things like making the transition from a day job to a job with an irregular income (since I have a family and a mortgage), the fact that I may have to fly and tour, etc... I guess I should be trusting the universe...And I've had similar worries along the way here (What if I get stage fright? What if I forget the song?) that in retrospect smoothed themselves out very nicely - the worries weren't unfounded, but sometimes the best thing to do is just acknowledge the worry and keep on moving forward... Thanks for writing back, Ati, this looks it may be a good thread! | |||
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[QUOTE=Vorhidin;10335Maybe I just fear the act of letting me go, to take the initiative and the responsability... We act like very complicated apes, don't you think so? (Apart, I find funny this situation of having to communicate in english, [/QUOTE] How about setting yourself up to practice for 5 (FIVE) minutes every day, to begin with and at a specific time. Make it so that all you have to do is pick up your guitar and play. Either set up with music that you know, or something to tell you what you are going to play (name of song if you don't read music) or something EASY to learn, bar by bar (that's measure by measure). Also how about getting a notebook or on your computer, if handy, and making a guitar log. First column: date and time you start to play (put all the dates in for 21 days) Second column: you make a check mark after you play Third column: How long by the clock, you actually played Fourth column: Comments if you want to write them, on how this is working, what you played, how it felt (?) to play and strategies to broaden this approach Then, let's see what happens. Will your love for your music come out and get you to do more? I expect it will... This is just the sort of thing I do when I want to get myself off the ground on something and when I do this, it always teaches me something! [QUOTE=Polonius Funk;10581]Hm...there's a diamond in here - what if you all IMed the reality of being inspired, creative, and hard-workingc Yeah !!!! Quote:
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Also may be that you are (inside) looking at whether or not you're up for making a break from a mixed situation (day job and music) to music alone. Lots involved in that, isn't there, and a lot of variables for different people and different situations. Keep us posted as you want to! Will be so interesting to see how it all turns out, maybe you'll find a great temporary spot in the middle, who knows? All best with all of that! Best to all! Ati
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Well, I know that If now I start to try to write some songs I will enjoy it. But I won't make great songs. I have many other things in my head that disturb me. It's not the right moment. (After 20 years of composing I realize of these things). Maybe it was happens to you, you know you will enjoy it, but you know you're not give your best or so, so you wait for the best moment and instead do other things. Another situation would be the fear itself of playing, the fear of showing your emotions, and that's a very different thing, a huge thing. What musicians have to overcome if they want to show their music "The Wall" for Pink Floyd. It leaves you naked in front of everybody. Maybe if you read my posts (all over the forum) you notice I talk easily about deep inside things of mine... without a problem. That's because I went outside the Wall some time ago. Now I can talk easily about any feeling I have because I'm used to my music exposure. But the thing of breaking the Wall is... well... oh, my... I'll never go back into the wall. But breaking it is like being born again or so, it's the hardest thing I've lived. |
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I'm "hasta los cojones" of the wall... It affects every single aspect of my life. Time to open the gates | |
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Because you won't like what will happen when you break the wall ("al principio") but you may never will go back because you don't like the past so much. "Cojones" is the right word, is all about that. Courage or whatever you call it. Remember you're gonna do it because you don't like to be "stuck" in how your life is now. Like happened to me and so many others... The wall protectsyou but isolates you too. Now you will take away the protection but the isolation too. You will experience bad and good things then... For me was an... "horrible process"... but I'll do it again a hundred times... just because I reached point of "hasta los cojones". | |
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Here's some lyrics of "The Wall" album, in chronogical order because the album start when the person is born and ends when the person goes out the Wall. "We don't need no education We dont need no thought control No dark sarcasm in the classroom Teachers leave them kids alone Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone! All in all it's just another brick in the wall. All in all you're just another brick in the wall. We don't need no education We dont need no thought control No dark sarcasm in the classroom Teachers leave them kids alone Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone! All in all it's just another brick in the wall. All in all you're just another brick in the wall" "Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb? Mother do you think they'll like this song? Mother do you think they'll try to break my balls? Mother should I build the wall? Mother should I run for president? Mother should I trust the government? Mother will they put me in the firing line? Mother am I really dying? Hush now baby, baby, dont you cry. Mother's gonna make all your nightmares come true. Mother's gonna put all her fears into you. Mother's gonna keep you right here under her wing. She wont let you fly, but she might let you sing. Mama will keep baby cozy and warm. Ooooh baby ooooh baby oooooh baby, Of course mama'll help to build the wall. Mother do you think she's good enough -- to me? Mother do you think she's dangerous -- to me? Mother will she tear your little boy apart? Mother will she break my heart? Hush now baby, baby dont you cry. Mama's gonna check out all your girlfriends for you. Mama wont let anyone dirty get through. Mama's gonna wait up until you get in. Mama will always find out where you've been. Mama's gonna keep baby healthy and clean. Ooooh baby oooh baby oooh baby, You'll always be baby to me." "What shall we use To fill the empty spaces Where we used to talk? How shall I fill The final places? How should I complete the wall" "I don't need no arms around me And I dont need no drugs to calm me. I have seen the writing on the wall. Don't think I need anything at all. No! Don't think I'll need anything at all. All in all it was all just bricks in the wall. All in all you were all just bricks in the wall." "Hey you, out there on your own Sitting naked by the phone Would you touch me? Hey you, with you ear against the wall Waiting for someone to call out Would you touch me? Hey you, would you help me to carry the stone? Open your heart, I'm coming home. But it was only fantasy. The wall was too high, As you can see. No matter how he tried, He could not break free. And the worms ate into his brain" "Is there anybody out there? Is there anybody out there? Is there anybody out there? Is there anybody out there" I've got a little black book with my poems in. Got a bag with a toothbrush and a comb in. When I'm a good dog, they sometimes throw me a bone in. "I got elastic bands keepin my shoes on. Got those swollen hand blues. Got thirteen channels of ************ on the T.V. to choose from. I've got electric light. And I've got second sight. And amazing powers of observation. And that is how I know When I try to get through On the telephone to you There'll be nobody home. I've got the obligatory Hendrix perm. And the inevitable pinhole burns All down the front of my favorite satin shirt. I've got nicotine stains on my fingers. I've got a silver spoon on a chain. I've got a grand piano to prop up my mortal remains. I've got wild staring eyes. And I've got a strong urge to fly. But I got nowhere to fly to. Ooooh, Babe when I pick up the phone There's still nobody home" "Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home? Come on, now, I hear you're feeling down. Well I can ease your pain Get you on your feet again. Relax. I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts. Can you show me where it hurts? There is no pain you are receding A distant ship, smoke on the horizon. You are only coming through in waves. Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying. When I was a child I had a fever My hands felt just like two balloons. Now I've got that feeling once again I can't explain you would not understand This is not how I am. I have become comfortably numb. O.K. Just a little pinprick. There'll be no more aaaaaaaaah! But you may feel a little sick. Can you stand up? I do believe it's working, good. That'll keep you going through the show Come on it's time to go. There is no pain you are receding A distant ship, smoke on the horizon. You are only coming through in waves. Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying. When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse Out of the corner of my eye. I turned to look but it was gone I cannot put my finger on it now The child is grown, The dream is gone. I have become comfortably numb." "Sitting in a bunker here behind my wall Waiting for the worms to come. In perfect isolation here behind my wall Waiting for the worms to come. We're {waiting to succeed} and going to convene outside Brixton Town Hall where we're going to be... Waiting to cut out the deadwood. Waiting to clean up the city. Waiting to follow the worms. Waiting to put on a black shirt. Waiting to weed out the weaklings. Waiting to smash in their windows And kick in their doors. Waiting for the final solution To strengthen the strain. Waiting to follow the worms. Waiting to turn on the showers And fire the ovens. Waiting for the queens and the coons and the reds and the jews. Waiting to follow the worms. Would you like to see Britannia Rule again, my friend? All you have to do is follow the worms. Would you like to send our colored cousins Home again, my friend? All you need to do is follow the worms." "Stop! I wanna go home Take off this uniform And leave the show. But I'm waiting in this cell Because I have to know. Have I been guilty all this time?" "Good morning, Worm your honor. The crown will plainly show The prisoner who now stands before you Was caught red-handed showing feelings Showing feelings of an almost human nature; This will not do. Call the schoolmaster! I always said he'd come to no good In the end your honor. If they'd let me have my way I could Have flayed him into shape. But my hands were tied, The bleeding hearts and artists Let him get away with murder. Let me hammer him today? Crazy, Toys in the attic I am crazy, Truly gone fishing. They must have taken my marbles away. Crazy, toys in the attic he is crazy. You little ************ you're in it now, I hope they throw away the key. You should have talked to me more often Than you did, but no! You had to go Your own way, have you broken any Homes up lately? Just five minutes, Worm your honor, Him and Me, alone. Baaaaaaaaaabe! Come to mother baby, let me hold you In my arms. M'lud I never wanted him to Get in any trouble. Why'd he ever have to leave me? Worm, your honor, let me take him home. Crazy, Over the rainbow, I am crazy, Bars in the window. There must have been a door there in the wall When I came in. Crazy, over the rainbow, he is crazy. The evidence before the court is Incontrivertable, there's no need for The jury to retire. In all my years of judging I have never heard before Of someone more deserving Of the full penaltie of law. The way you made them suffer, Your exquisite wife and mother, Fills me with the urge to defecate! "Hey Judge! ************ on him!" Since, my friend, you have revealed your Deepest fear, I sentence you to be exposed before Your peers. Tear down the wall! Tear down the wall! Tear down the wall! Tear down the wall! Tear down the wall!" All alone, or in two's, The ones who really love you Walk up and down outside the wall. Some hand in hand And some gathered together in bands. The bleeding hearts and artists Make their stand. "And when they've given you their all Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall." |
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Great to have so many musicians here. I produce music with my computer and synths, play a bit of keyboard and guitar and I'd like to start writing songs with lyrics too. Funny, I haven't actually considered using IM in making music. I might have used it accidentally but not really intentionally. So how do you actually use it, do you just visualize yourself making a good song? Or just visualize yourself being creative, enthusiastic and motivated? Or do you try to visualize the song itself at its final form? |
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