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11-06-2006, 08:15 PM
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 Any musicians out there? I ask because I am using intention manifestation actively in my musical work and think it would be fun to compare notes with other musicians doing the same. So....????
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11-06-2006, 10:31 PM
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| I also play guitar, and a tiiinyyy bit piano. Personally, I'd like to IM meeting new musicans and forming a fun and talented band. It's something I'd really love to do, but have had some trouble finding musicians my age that are chill and open minded.
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11-07-2006, 12:02 AM
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| Here's a musician with IM experience for 7 years.  Yeah, I've always wanted to be "a great songwriter", "a great singer", "a great piano/guitar player". "Just what you want to be you will be in the end" Nights in White Satin, The Moody Blues. "There's no thing you can done that can't be done... etc." All you need is love, The Beatles. Bono talks about this song saying that he thinks that when The Beatles wrote about Love they talked about believing in being able to achieve things, etc. IM may be as old as the world. "Where are we going John (Lennon)?" "To the top, guys" "And where is it?" "To the toppermost of the poppermost" (the most famous thing in pop music) And they did!. That dialogue was usual when The Beatles playing in small pubs and were hopeless. I sometimes called the IM, the Toppermost of the Poppermost Law. I'm a Beatle fan, I can help it. :-) |
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11-07-2006, 12:48 AM
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| I'm a pianist and a classical music enthusiest. I haven't used IM with it, but piano has been a part of personal development for me. Practicing is a meditative experience, and I use it to re-orient myself and simply enjoy an hour of solitude each day.
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11-07-2006, 12:37 PM
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| With the last poster - piano is a part of personal development but haven't used IM with it. It's rather hard to do a lot with it at the moment as I have a busy, loud toddler running around  . |
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11-07-2006, 12:56 PM
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| I am a singer and voice teacher here in Switzerland. I definitely believe in IM. For several months I have been wishing for a baby grand for my apartment. Yesterday I got the call from an old woman who needs someone to babysit hers for her. Amazing. |
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11-08-2006, 06:31 AM
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| Ati, I see that you're an Internist. Very cool! I'm a physician too - I did my training in India and am now in the process of finishing my boards in the US. I'm only an amateur guitar player but played with a cover band back in med school. And oh, hello everyone. This is the icebreaker post |
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11-08-2006, 10:39 AM
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| I play bass in a band. (www.myspace.com/8past) I also play guitar and keyboard, write songs, and attempt to sing. I've never consciously tried IM, but well... playing and writing music has been a dream/goal of mine for a long time, and here I am doing it. It's far from a living, but well, I've certainly had dreams of making it....  |
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11-08-2006, 10:51 AM
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| I'm an ex-Deejay, ex-Rock Vocalist, Guitar & Keyboard player. I publish music online and I had an EP out earlier this year. You'll find my work at broadjam and acidplanet. Currently, concentrating on my career as a fashion designer so I've moved out of the music scene for now. But I still play for fun and with friends.
__________________ BROKEN PROJECTOR -Cinema will save us "What's the point of breathing if someone already tells you the difference between an apple and a bi-cycle? When I bite a bi-cycle and ride an apple, that's when I'll know" -Axl Blackmar in Emir Kusturica's 'Arizona Dream' |
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11-08-2006, 07:59 PM
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 Hmm, everyone is a guitarist and keyboardist, huh? To add to the cliche...I'm one too (although I can't play a tune on the keys very well!). I haven't used IM yet either but since coming here my songwriting has reflected my change in conscience, as I imagine every musician here could say.
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11-09-2006, 12:31 AM
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Besides composing and singing... To be honest my music haven't had change a thing since I know this web... I had similar beliefs before but now I see some people like me and more explanation about them. |
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11-09-2006, 04:59 PM
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| I'm also a musician - aspiring pro. I have used IM to get me motivated to finish projects and in a creative, productive frame of mind, and have seen results come from that. I haven't used it to try to gain wealth and riches yet... ...because I think a big trap of being an aspiring pro musician is focusing on the results and not the process. In the past I have expected my success to make me, rather than making my success. For example, I would say, "Ah, once I hit it big, THEN I will be REALLY creative and adventurous." But really, when you look at the pros, they would have worked just as hard whether they were underground and unrecognized their whole life as they did when they were in the spotlight. Actually, now that I knew a few pros, being pro is not a cakewalk - it might even be more of a grind than their day jobs were. But at the end of it all they get to do what they love, which makes it all worth while. Coincidentally, I'm now working on a demo to send to labels, but I have gotten myself stuck, because I'm focusing on what I'll have to do IF I succeed vs. just pouring my enthusiasm into my songs. --- On a related note, are there "groups" on this board? It might be interesting to start a "musicians" group to discuss these issues further? |
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11-14-2006, 02:01 PM
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| Another musician here. A jazz guitarist who does not play, a composer who does not compose, a student that does not study.... I'm currently very confused about what to do with my life. This blog has triggered my inner powerful questioning machinery and I don't feel comfortable any more. Now I want to go to play the guitar... Why is so extremely difficult for me to pick the guitar and play? But when I'm on it, then the difficult thing is to stop playing.  cheers |
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11-14-2006, 03:15 PM
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I'm involved (on this forum !!) with a group investigating and reporting on our intentions (Intention-Manifestation), one doing the same with polyphasic or other altered sleep patterns aiming at healthy and efficient sleep (the board about health, forgot its real name for the moment, you'll see it), and a few other groups based on common interest, but so far not aimed at particular directions. I'd love to engage in starting a musician's group, whether we just "chatted" about musical things, or actually developed a group aim or direction such as hmm...practicing every day?? or something else perhaps. We could even have two groups, one for general discussion and things that come up, news and morning announcements, and another one for a specific purpose at any time such a thing came up. Whaddyathink? Polonius (or shall I call you Funk? .....and are you related to Thelonius? I think your name is really  ) I think you are so right about the difference between process and "results", especially if "results" means fame, glory, name or even money. (Not that I don't have a bumper sticker that says "support your local musician") But if I measure how good I am as a musician by how much money I make, I'm probably off base somewhere. Yah, great musicians, a lot of them do make money but a lot of them also don't. I know great musicians in both of these categories and the difference IMO doesn't come down to differences in the quality of their music. (And we all know about the commercial scene which brings money but at least some ??? regarding the music, not to be judgemental now--I'm talking mainly about the tradition of the marketeers dictating to the musicians what sort of music they should be playing to make a buck and the struggle musicians can have getting out of that scene, that still exists even now, with alternative marketing opportunities, feeds greed and/or insecurity in some folks, me thinks)Also what does this mean? I'm focusing on what I'll have to do IF I succeed vs. just pouring my enthusiasm into my songs. What will you have to do that will keep you from pouring more enthusiasm into songs? I wish you the best in getting this out, let us know when you do, if you like !! I have heard and read many times from "famous" musicians whose only "job" is music have said that they don't feel they have enough time to do what they want in music, whether it's practicing something they want to learn or perfect, or working on a composition or arrangement that's in their minds trying to find a way out. So, maybe this is a universal condition, no? Andrew, just a suggestion, you could if you wanted to go over to the I-M page, find the sticky on top and put your intention down there. I don't know what kind of magic we are making there but people are supporting each other and today I'm putting a second sticky up for people to report on what they've manifested, that's by request of several frequent flyers on our board there. Also, just my curiosity what would it mean for a musician to be "my age that are chill and open minded"? I ask because I am also trying to get a group together...I live in a real small town in the mountains out here and my next step here does need to be to get a group together to play regularly.. and it's not like living near a university or in a bigger town... Antarananda, best of luck with the IM Boards ! and please, please allow me to argue with you here. What do you mean " only an amateur guitar player" when you can not only play with a band but do that while in med school? Vorhidin, I surely understand what you are saying and I doubt there is a musician amongst us who hasn't had times like that. I think the second part of what you say is key: "But when I'm on it, then the difficult thing is to stop playing." I expect you've read some of Steve Pavlina's blog entries. He puts it well for a lot of things, and it certainly goes for music--if you just get started, make yourself get the guitar out--buy a tuner so you can tune it quickly--and say you're going to play for 5 minutes by the clock, no doubt that what you just said will kick in and there you'll be, playing again! All best to all of you, if you're interested, let's see what we can do. This is the intro board. I can think of a couple boards that a thread like this would fit into, including the Intention-Manifestation board, others as well. Perhaps we should see what develops and if we have something after a week or so, consider moving somewhere else, where people who've been on for awhile and might not hit the intro board might catch sight of us? I think there are actually quite a few musicians on the forum and an active music thread would probably fit on just about any active board! All best! Ati
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11-14-2006, 11:57 PM
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11-15-2006, 12:08 AM
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| Remember you all the Subjective Reality of The Beatles. When they played clubs with little success they were often down... so they asked themselves... "Where are we going?" "To the top!" "And where's is that?" "In the top, the toppermost of the poppermost!!!" Remind the show "The Tops of the Pops"... the Beatles fooled themselves thinking they were gonna be the greatest musical stars ever... And they succeed LOL... That's why I started wondering about these things, that now I see are called IM, or Subjective Reality. (But then again, who created the Beatles intentions? my conscience or theirs? )"The Toppermost of the Poppermost law" is not exactly the IM law, is the positive thinking in spite of whatever... You keep believing you're gonna reach "the impossible" in spite of the situation that may not manifest a thing. |
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11-15-2006, 12:47 AM
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| I play sax... mostly alto, but I pick up a tenor or soprano once in a while. I haven't played with a band since high school, but I loved jazz. I'd like to go back to playing with a jazz group, but I'm in the middle of cow-country at the moment, and cows just can't hit the altissimo...
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11-15-2006, 01:19 AM
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 Well... I'm not agree. In fact the reverse is true. I KNOW that I will enjoy it. I don't know why I don't start doing it. I imagine me doing it and being happy... I just don't do it. And when I dare to pick the guitar or the piano and start playing, or composing, I can't leave it because I'm enjoying it so much, only when I'm exhausted. I know this indicates that I fear something. I usually suffer from not doing things that I like to do. (Another thing to the list.  )Maybe I just fear the act of letting me go, to take the initiative and the responsability... We act like very complicated apes, don't you think so? (Apart, I find funny this situation of having to communicate in english, -forum's official lingua franca, instead of talking in our common mother language, compañero...) Last edited by Vorhidin : 11-15-2006 at 01:22 AM. Reason: ortography errors |
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11-15-2006, 05:51 AM
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| I'm learning to become a musician (as a hobby). I've been proactively learning how to play piano and guitar, and also about music theory. I've attempted recording my "own pieces" that were mostly improvised and made into short music clips. I realize I have still a lot to learn, but it is very exciting and is definitely one of my favorite hobbies. I mostly do my recording and editing on the computer, and my instruments of choice are a guitar and a keyboard, which is hooked up to a very realistic instrument sampler on my computer. It's very cool to see how many other musicians frequent this board. ~Alex |
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11-15-2006, 02:24 PM
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