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View Poll Results: Which Widley Considered Genius do you most admire?
Homer 0 0%
Socrates 1 4.76%
Plato 0 0%
Archimedes 0 0%
Dante 0 0%
Da Vinci 5 23.81%
Da VinciMichaelangelo 0 0%
Shakespeare 0 0%
Newton 1 4.76%
Mozart 0 0%
Beethoven 1 4.76%
Goethe 0 0%
Tesla 5 23.81%
Einstein 3 14.29%
Other (specifiy in reply?) 5 23.81%
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Your favourite Genius?

I'm just very curious to see if any of you have preferences about which widely considered genius you most admire. I'm going to try and post the main '15' or the most likely to choose 15...I bet i miss out an obvious one and look stupid! As their are only 15 options. If you do put other, just say.

Others to consider:

Imhotep
Confucius
Solon
Tales
Pythagoras
Aristotle
Euclid
Eratosthenes
Hypathia
Diophantus
avicenna
Brahmagupta
Aryabhata
Copernicus
Galileo
Kepler
Descartes
Pascal
Leibniz
Bach
Swedenborg
Kant
Hegel
Gauss
Hugo
Darwin
Marx
Dostoyevsky
Freud
Planck
Alan Turning
Stephen Hawking

Edit 1: MORE

John Stuart Mill
Ludwig Wittgenstein
Sofia Kovalevskaya
Maria Curie Maria
Maria Gaetana Agnesi
Simone de Beauvoir
Srinivasa Ramanujan
! William James Sidis ~ Bit of a big one in terms of pure intelligence at a young age. Didn't exactly achieve a great deal for his intellectual capabilities though.
René Descartes
Madame De Stael
Linus Carl Pauling
Sofia Kovalevskaya
Thomas Chatterton
Olof Palme
Rembrandt van Rijn
Anna Lindh
George Sand (Aurore Dupin)

Edit 2:: MORE

~Renaissance.. Think - Brunelleschi, Raphael, Titian, Donatello, blah blah. Can't be bothered to list them.

Edit 3::: MORE

That genius Guy - i.e. either -

Lawrence G. Roberts
Leonard Kleinrock
Robert Kahn
Vinton Cerf.

Give me some options to add more!

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and unfortunately we all wish there was a guy called Da Vinci Michaelangelo but I can't edit it so
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Cool post JuggaJ. I can't believe someone as young as you is aware of all these geniuses.
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to be fair i only know bout 80% of them (some of the latter in my post (the edit part) I'm not hugely aware of, but I think studying these people is very interesting dam I'm sad.
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dam I'm sad.
What are you sad about?
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I mean. I'm sad as in.. I should be out getting pissed and socializing and smoking weed and flying high...except I'm reading biographies about geniuses...ah happy days

As a matter of fact right now I'm torn between. Socrates, Shakespeare, Da Vinci and Michaelangelo.
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I...except I'm reading biographies about geniuses...ah happy days
I think that's quite noble of you!

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As a matter of fact right now I'm torn between. Socrates, Shakespeare, Da Vinci and Michaelangelo.
The problem with having to make a choice is that they contributed somewhat different things to humanity. I love them all! I didn't want to have to make a choice (I went with Tesla).
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thankyou. Well actually yes that is the case, but in all honestly you most likely admire one more than another, however small that admiration difference. Yes good old Tesla, God bless AC. haha
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I mean. I'm sad as in.. I should be out getting pissed and socializing and smoking weed and flying high...except I'm reading biographies about geniuses...ah happy days
Are you really sad or jesting...???
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I voted for Tesla, but thought why is Ada Byron always gone?

In researching genetic engineering I came across many biographies of French Anderson and he became my idol for awhile ("not for being so intelligent at such a young age -- that was just an accident of birth -- but for conquering his character flaws afterwards," said my essay on him.) Then he was arrested for molestation.

Still human, unfortunately -- and a very ill self-admittedly evil one. Who's that who said "Beethoven was paranoid, Mozart was manic-depressive, and Wagner was a megalomaniac"? I wonder, what are we supposed to do when these ideas of people go horribly realistic? Should we just admire dead geniuses whose history is usually cleaned up (like Oscar Wilde)? Or is there a way to honor their contributions without appearing to condone their evils (like being able to say "I like Heidegger," without someone snickering "Nazi!") It still sounds somewhat divisive to me... like saying "My idol did all these good things, but the person doesn't exist"? Does anyone else get that?
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Are you really sad or jesting...???
no, I'm almost certainly sad.

Most geniuses have flaws with them pali, its a good old side effect. If your schizophrenic, you must be a genius!
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Are you really sad or jesting...???
Any chance of Jugga J being from the UK(or somewhere(well, he must be from somewhere...))?

Sad can also mean "nerdy" or "dorky". And aren't geniuses nerdy?

Maybe it's a European thing?
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ah, you learn something new everyday. . Sad. No child prodigies are the usually at the centre of the social world. And I'm from the exciting country we call.......... the United Kingdom.

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My favourite genius is the guy that thought up the internet...Kudos Brother!
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And I'm from the exciting country we call.......... the United Kingdom.
So I was right? Now this IS sad.
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congrats Erki .... but hold your tongue.. it's not that bad over here..is it isn't so boring enough as to warrant me moving to another country for university or anything
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My favourite genius is the guy that thought up the internet...Kudos Brother!
Now you can put four names behind that "genius guy"...

Lawrence G. Roberts has been described as one of the four persons most closely associated with the birth of the Internet, the other three being Leonard Kleinrock, Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf.

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Blah, I'm such a spag... No one take your pick Sham? I bet your going to come up with some clever answer about how they're all so different...blah.

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Blah, I'm such a spag... No one take your pick Sham? I bet your going to come up with some clever answer about how they're all so different...blah.
Could we get the Americanized version of that post... I don't have a clue as to what you are saying...

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i.e you don't seem to have picked or said who you most admire yet. . I'm just curious to find out
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i.e you don't seem to have picked or said who you most admire yet. . I'm just curious to find out
My "main man" is The Honorable Pierre Elliot Trudeau... former Prime Minister of Canada...

He was a an intellectual and a man of physical courage... He was a playboy and a sage... he was the closest thing to Royalty that Canada has ever seen...

His picture is in front of my work place as a constant reminder of the kind of man I will always aspire to become...



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Aristotle for me.
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my hubby loves Tredeau.. he would agree with you...
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according to my eccentric defenition of genius

I would say first is Christ, and second is a sufi poet named Rumi

Beyond all our right doings and wrong doings... there is a field I will meet you there Rumi
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Well considering that Jesus was 'God' (not that I'm really into that story much), and God created the universe (well apparently) ... I'm sure he outstrips the others by quite a degree.
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Well considering that Jesus was 'God' (not that I'm really into that story much), and God created the universe (well apparently) ... I'm sure he outstrips the others by quite a degree.
I tend to look at "Christ" in his human experience..... it was his human side which makes me see genius.......

1) for one thing , his claims were short of a mad man, his story was just to mad not to be true....

2) He offered practical advice, "pick up your mat and walk"!! He never focused on the problem when dealing with people in the parables, Christ was a problem solver... not a problem dweller!, forward, visionary thinker, idealist ( i think)

3) it is very difficult to put him in a category,( that is what i love) he was a true individualist, he went into synogoges, but he was not a pew sitter.... I can not picture Christ as wearing a uniform... or can I ever picture him as standing outside of abortion clinics, with a picket sign, ... he just did not operate that way

4) for living 34 yrs look at how rich his life was.... what he accomplished,

the following he had.... so wether he is a cult leader or guru, visonary or mad man

he lived an incredible life, touching hundreds of people ... to me that is genius
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okay okay fair enough. I'm talking the more non enlightened geniuses here. Because If I put any major religious figures up there like Muhammad, Jesus and Budds. Then to choose the likes of Freud over them is a little stupid .

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I think his presence on the earth has touched a bit more than hundreds of people.

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4) for living 34 yrs look at how rich his life was.... what he accomplished,
You say He had a rich life... just out of curiosity... would you have traded place with Him...???

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Oooh, also adding that Jesus was quite a theological prodigy (the Finding at the Temple and its pointed capitalizations,) and even in adulthood ran verbal rings around anyone who tried to trap him in a violation of scripture. But, he didn't discover or invent monotheism like Abraham or Hypatia did. On the other hand, he could be counted as a social philosopher on par with that Care Bear, Levinas. If J.C. was on the list, though, I'd have still voted for Tesla without feeling stupid -- they contributed in different ways, favorites will always be different for everyone
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You say He had a rich life... just out of curiosity... would you have traded place with Him...???
Good question, I don't know that i would have the corouge to lay down my life for mankind, the way he did .. but I think were it me back in those times, I think I would have carried my cross as a follower..... his individualism is quite admirable...

I also think if he were alive today making the same claims that he made back then, physciatry would have a field day with him
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