The Great Toilet Seat Debate

[James81]

You guys know what I'm talking about. The whole "why the hell can't guys put the toilet seat back down after using it?" spiel from the ladies...and the counterarguement: "is it THAT hard to look at the seat before you sit down?" from the guys.

Let's settle this...once and for all.

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

It's different when you have to pull your pants down and back onto the evacuation area. I do not have eyes on the back of my head. Also I've only ever fallen into the toilet was at night, when I was not very alert. Boy was I pissed on.

[James81]

Originally Posted by Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi

It's different when you have to pull your pants down and back onto the evacuation area. I do not have eyes on the back of my head. Also I've only ever fallen into the toilet was at night, when I was not very alert. Boy was I pissed on.

I think I'm going to go ahead and break out the "100% responsibility" card. That one trumps all I think.

Did you land your ass in the toilet because the dude didn't put it back down? OR did you land your ass in the toilet because you chose not to look?

think about it eh...think about it.

(There's humor in this post and a smile on my face while typing it. Just keep that in mind. )

[Lucidism]

The answer is that you put down the lid AND the cover seat/lid. That way my box of Q-tips doesn't fall into the damn toilet if I bunk them off the counter.

And the bathroom just looks nicer that way.

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

hahaha. brrrrt.

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

Originally Posted by Lucidism

The answer is that you put down the lid AND the cover seat/lid. That way my box of Q-tips doesn't fall into the damn toilet if I bunk them off the counter.

And the bathroom just looks nicer that way.

My mom had one of those fuzzy toilet seat lid covers that matched the rug and the stenciled border on the wall. It seems so inviting, but then you're not supposed to sit on the toilet seat lid. Damn it.

[ssandra]

It's simple math.... Girls sit down to pee and poo (2x).

Guys sit down to poo (1x)

Guys stand up to pee (unless they are drunk and/or pooing anyway) (0,5x)

So we have sitting down (3.5x) vs standing up (0.5x)

I think that ratio is pretty clear.... Help yourself, help each other, and put the seat back down!!

[Lucidism]

Despite the amount of germs and urine splashes these rugs will eventually contain, I think it's festive.

[marinik]

No comment...

[Lucidism]

Speaking of which, who invented the brush they put next to the toilet? That thing hurts!

[beast]

Originally Posted by James81

I think I'm going to go ahead and break out the "100% responsibility" card. That one trumps all I think.

Did you land your ass in the toilet because the dude didn't put it back down? OR did you land your ass in the toilet because you chose not to look?

think about it eh...think about it.

(There's humor in this post and a smile on my face while typing it. Just keep that in mind. )

I like to break out the "respect" card.

Sure, I can put down the toilet seat myself, but I find it disgusting to see the toilet seat is up, and I don't want to touch it. So show me a little respect and just put the damn thing down! It'll be worth it, anyways, because it's good to be on my good side.

[James81]

Originally Posted by beast

and I don't want to touch it.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi

It's different when you have to pull your pants down and back onto the evacuation area.

This is my thought. It's night, I'm half-asleep, I get up to pee, and I don't know why a guy can't be nice enough to put the seat back down to prevent me from accidentally falling into the toilet or even sitting on the rim of the toilet, which he typically pees on

I also don't get why a guy has to pee on the rim of the toilet, but once a guy told me it happens because he's usually trying to do something else at the same time as peeing

I have to admit I started looking at all this in a different light when a friend of mine told me she divorced her first husband because he was a selfish pig. And I asked like what did he do. And she said, for example, he wouldn't raise the seat to pee.

[James81]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

I also don't get why a guy has to pee on the rim of the toilet,

It's not always a nice, beautiful, fluid stream that somes out of there. At least not for me it's not. Sometimes the stream does funky stuff. And I have no idea why that is.

[sorter]

"it's good to be on my good side"
Exactly, so put the damn seat up when you're done.

"It's simple math.... Girls sit down to pee and poo (2x)."
So you should figure out the ratio between guys needing it up and you needing it down
and you leave it up accordingly???

I have sat in the damn toilet because I didn't look and I was glad no one saw me do something so stupid.
I didn't think to blame someone else.

"The answer is that you put down the lid AND the cover seat/lid."
That is the correct answer.
.

[LostMyMap]

See, if you have a big dog, this isn't a problem because you always have to keep the seat and the lid down, or else the dog thinks it's his personal water bowl.

[Lucidism]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

once a guy told me it happens because he's usually trying to do something else at the same time as peeing

Yep. We shave, do our taxes, or do holiday shopping online. This is pretty common for productive men. For example, Steve explains how he reads and shaves:

If you're a male, read while shaving. I use an electric shaver and read during the 2-3 minutes it takes me to shave each day.

Well, if Steve wanted to up his productivity, he could read, shave, and pee at the same time.

[beast]

Originally Posted by sorter

"it's good to be on my good side"
Exactly, so put the damn seat up when you're done.

Er, what? That wouldn't accomplish anything. Guys often need the seats down, too, and girls always do.

Sheesh, I don't care what you guys do in your own homes. It would be a deal-breaker for me, though, if a man repeatedly left the seat up. But I have high standards for people whom I associate with, and that's always served me pretty well.

[sorter]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

he wouldn't raise the seat to pee.

Gotta agree that sucks. Far too many guys do that.
If I need to sit in a public restroom, even in respectable establishments,
I usually have to clean it or hover.
.

[Andrew Brunelle]

I'll just keep the seat down and piss all over it. It doesn't take that much effort to lower a seat, and secondly, why is there even a debate? Can't you check before you sit down? You know, a lot of countries have squat toilets, with no seat, and if you have that big a problem with the seat being up, down, or upside down, you might as well move there.

[sorter]

Originally Posted by beast

Guys often need the seats down,

Not that much.

Actually, the only problem I have is when women should me about this topic.
If they ask, that's ask not demand, I'm very compliant.
I usually put the seat and lid down at the squeeze's place.

Making it an issue of respect is neurotic to be nice about it.
.

[James81]

Originally Posted by beast

It would be a deal-breaker for me, though, if a man repeatedly left the seat up.

This has me curious.

So a man who exhibits all of the qualities that you deem as "perfect" in every way walks into your life. you're insanely attracted to him and he's just that guy that you'd marry in a heartbeat.

Except one thing...he leaves the toilet seat up.

And you're going to break up with him?

[James81]

Originally Posted by James81

This has me curious.

So a man who exhibits all of the qualities that you deem as "perfect" in every way walks into your life. you're insanely attracted to him and he's just that guy that you'd marry in a heartbeat.

Except one thing...he leaves the toilet seat up.

And you're going to break up with him?

Also, skip the "..but a guy who leaves the toilet seat up is less likely to embrace other qualities that I consider great in a guy" spiel.

This is just a for instance...a quick yes or no question.

[beast]

Originally Posted by James81

This has me curious.

So a man who exhibits all of the qualities that you deem as "perfect" in every way walks into your life. you're insanely attracted to him and he's just that guy that you'd marry in a heartbeat.

Except one thing...he leaves the toilet seat up.

And you're going to break up with him?

If he repeatedly did it, despite me gently asking him not to? Yeah, absolutely - but then he wouldn't be displaying all the other qualities I deem "perfect", because respect is right up there for me, and I think it would show a major lack of respect on his part.

[beast]

Originally Posted by James81

Also, skip the "..but a guy who leaves the toilet seat up is less likely to embrace other qualities that I consider great in a guy" spiel.

This is just a for instance...a quick yes or no question.

No, it doesn't work like that. It isn't that a guy who leaves the toilet seat up is less likely to embrace other qualities that I consider great in a guy...it's that a guy who repeatedly leaves the seat up, against my wishes, is not displaying a quality which I find essential in a guy.

[James81]

Originally Posted by beast

If he repeatedly did it, despite me gently asking him not to? Yeah, absolutely - but then he wouldn't be displaying all the other qualities I deem "perfect", because respect is right up there for me, and I think it would show a major lack of respect on his part.

Ok, so my next question is...

Why does putting a toilet seat down equal respect to you?

[Lucidism]

James, if a girl keeps putting the seat down against your wishes, even though you gently remind her, then she is obviously disrespecting you and you should dump her.

Sike! I'm kidding, but it does sound a little silly if we reverse the standard, doesn't it?

[sorter]

Originally Posted by Lucidism

James, if a girl keeps putting the seat down against your wishes, even though you gently remind her, then she is obviously disrespecting you and you should dump her.

But that's the difference. What guy would think to complain about that?
.

[beast]

Originally Posted by Lucidism

James, if a girl keeps putting the seat down against your wishes, even though you gently remind her, then she is obviously disrespecting you and you should dump her.

Sike! I'm kidding, but it does sound a little silly if we reverse the standard, doesn't it?

Well, I suppose I wouldn't be compatible with you, James, or sorter. But that's okay, because there are lots of people I am compatible with, and I'm sure the same is true for all of you!

I find lifted toilet seats to be pretty disgusting (and LMM is right - my dog thinks they're water bowls - gross!) It isn't a big deal to put them down afterwards, and knowing that I find them disgusting and it's a very small thing for a man to do, yes, I think it shows a lack of respect to be unwilling to do it.

[James81]

Originally Posted by beast

I find lifted toilet seats to be pretty disgusting

(I'm not trying to debate with you, btw, just curious about your thoughts on this.)

But...

Why do you find them disgusting? I mean, what is disgusting about a toilet seat being up versus a toilet seat being down?