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02-18-2007, 07:11 PM
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I just managed to spend another not-so-productive hour on Wikipedia, starting with a little search query that I just wanted to check out... but there were so many links in that article.  And I couldn't resist...  One thing led to another and a whole hour went past...Anyone else share my little guilty pleasure?  |
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02-18-2007, 07:13 PM
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02-18-2007, 07:17 PM
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People need to be careful with Wikipedia, anyone can log on there and type in erroneous information and no one would be the wiser. I came across an article where someone actually typed the following into the body of the article: see i can type anything in here. This confirmed for me that Wikipedia is not to be trusted.
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02-18-2007, 07:24 PM
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It's not just Wikipedia. I can easily spend an hour or more looking at the new posts here each day or on other forums or imdb... Basically, if you don't spend your time on purpose, it is easy to get sucked into such time sinks. After all, you didn't decide to spend the time there consciously, so how could you possibly decide to stop within a reasonable amount of time? Naturally, when you finally do stop, you will feel that you "wasted" an hour that you could have spent doing something more productive.
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02-18-2007, 07:27 PM
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Back in the olden days (70's) before Al Gore invented the internet, I would do the same thing with the real encyclopedia. Or the dictionary. Ahhh, progress...
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02-18-2007, 08:15 PM
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All past versions of articles are stored, and in this instance you would be well within your rights to revert to the last unvandalised version. Similarly, if you found something to be inaccurate, then change it. | |
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02-18-2007, 08:25 PM
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02-18-2007, 09:01 PM
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Then I realized: no one can be trusted.
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02-18-2007, 10:15 PM
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Not to mention that nothing that is written on Wikipedia is ever confirmed and/or verified by anyone, much less an independent third party. Moral of the story: Wikipedia should not be anyone's medium of choice from which to gather data.
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02-18-2007, 10:49 PM
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__________________ Done reading: Illusions: Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah Albert Einstein said: "I have never looked upon ease and happiness as ends in themselves--this critical basis I call the ideal of a pigsty." | |
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02-18-2007, 11:28 PM
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Here are the confirmations about what I said: Quote:
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02-18-2007, 11:47 PM
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Okay, so if everyone thinks it, then it must be true?
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02-19-2007, 07:02 AM
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I thought I was the only one who did that. Seriously, I can lose hours to that at night. My take on all of this? Wikipedia is as trustworthy as anything else. In other words, it isn't to be trusted. |
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02-19-2007, 08:21 AM
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I dunno... Wikipedia has its flaws (like, the entry on Star Wars is the same size as the entry on Africa), but it's a good starting point for research. When I was teaching freshman comp, I would tell students that they could use Wikipedia as a source only if they verified the information elsewhere. I also didn't let them use it as one of their three required sources (like, they could use it, but they couldn't actually count it as one of their three). Despite these roadblocks, many of them made good use of it. If I had to write a research paper on a topic I didn't know a whole lot about, I could do worse than noodling around on Wikipedia for an hour looking for leads. |
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02-19-2007, 08:46 AM
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How many people ever used the Encyclopedia Brittanica as a source in an academic paper? Now that I think about it, I don't once recall using it as such. I'm shocked people use any encyclopedia as a source for such.
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02-19-2007, 03:23 PM
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No wikipedia isn't 100% reliable. Yes it does have flaws and personal opinions scattered throughout. It is still one of the best ideas I have ever seen. Although I was very upset when they removed Steves page 
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02-19-2007, 08:29 PM
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Half the interest in Wikipedia is in the 'Talk' page and the History. Certainly, if you need something Wikipedia says to be reliable, you should at least read these two pages and see how this conclusion was reached. If you suspect vandalism, you can check back the last couple of edits in the history. I agree with Michael's point: there is no 'independent third party'. You don't think that (eg.) Britannica suffers from editorial bias? Wikipedia has a strong culture of keeping an eye on new edits for vandalism. You can guarantee mister "I can write anything I want here" was quickly reverted.
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03-17-2007, 01:10 AM
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Here's an article on the Essjay controversy: Wikipedia founder speaks on the Essjay controversy | InfoWorld | News | 2007-03-09 | By Martyn Williams, IDG News Service I would say there are still many more skeletons hiding in the Wikipedia closet.
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03-17-2007, 03:35 AM
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Rough Type: Nicholas Carr's Blog: Essjay's world Rough Type: Nicholas Carr's Blog: Wikipedia's credentialism crisis It's strange to hear someone whose beliefs are in line with Wikipedia attempting to discredit Wikipedia.
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03-29-2007, 05:31 AM
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You can actually post infos about some topics in Wikepedia which means that facts from there are not guaranteed reliable. One time, I found the original article copied into Wikepedia from the official website of the product. How disappointing! ______________________ A Tenerife guide to Spain's beautiful scenery. Last edited by lady therese; 03-29-2007 at 10:24 AM. | |
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03-29-2007, 07:39 AM
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__________________ Done reading: Illusions: Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah Albert Einstein said: "I have never looked upon ease and happiness as ends in themselves--this critical basis I call the ideal of a pigsty." | |
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04-02-2007, 07:46 PM
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04-02-2007, 08:08 PM
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^ Prolly cause of number 11: Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Talk:Steve Pavlina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for more info. Again, no explanation seems to be given... |
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