Prison better than College?

[Lupe]

There are no tests, papers, or homework in prison.
There are no grades in prison.
You don’t need financial aid in prison.
In prison, you get to see your family more often.
You get more sleep in prison.
Laundry is free in prison.
You don’t have to worry about job placement in prison.
The food is better in prison.
You don’t have to apply to prison, just get convicted.
In prison, you can get out early for good behavior.

[{aspiring_to_clarity}]

...and probably get beaten or shanked.
...and get um, how should I put this, well, I think you may know what I'm talking about.
...and you can't just quit if you decide you don't want to be there anymore.


In college you can graduate early, you just have to actually work hard.

[Andrew Brunelle]

I wouldn't say that college is worse than prison. But college can be a sort of prison for some people. It does stifle creativity on some fronts, but jail is a place I never would want to go, and it is certainly not better than college, unless you like getting raped, beaten, stabbed, and possibly killed.

[David365]

The trouble is, in prison you won't be able to write on forums when you're bored or should be doing something else - like studying!

[funchy]

I hope those of you who think college is like prison are kidding?

Imagine being locked in an austere cement building for YEARS. Your "friends" are those who haven't yet beaten you up, molested you, or lied to guards to get you in trouble. Imagine having to ask permission for every single thing you do. Imagine not even getting privacy to poop; you're sitting on the toilet at the back of your open cell, for everyone to see. No socializing, no leaving for a night of clubbing, no meeting the opposite sex, no spending all day online, no sleeping in, no choosing what you eat, no nothing. When you leave prison, you get only the clothes you walked in with plus a jail record that will follow you forever. Good luck getting an apartment or a job with a felony on your record.

People need to be thankful for what they have. In many parts of the world, you wouldn't get even a full high school education. Or, if there are colleges, there is no money to attend them. If you really want to feel creativity stifled, try living in total poverty with no education.

[missing]

I think being enslaved to a corporate job is a lot closer to prison than college. Really, college is likely the highlight of the lives of young people in America. Which is really, really, sad when you think about it. Yea I know, somebody is going to chime in and say one should be "thankful" for their crap job. It's a trap.

All that said, I think I'd rather be dead than in prison. I don't think I'd do well in that kind of environment. Then again, I think I'd also rather be dead than slaving away at a corporate job for 40 years. Thankfully there are other options. I think if all of life was like college, depression levels would PLUMMET and Steve Pavlina would be out of business.

[N0lIdzIzPowa]

Out of those two, I'd definitely pick College.

[Interpreneur]

Our friend Lupe wants to be homeless and prefers prison to college. Talk about a bright future.

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by Interpreneur

Our friend Lupe wants to be homeless and prefers prison to college. Talk about a bright future.

give him a break
he is just trying to figure things out

and I wish I had some of the insights he has when I was younger

[ggwbach]

Originally Posted by Lupe

There are no tests, papers, or homework in prison.
There are no grades in prison.
You don’t need financial aid in prison.
In prison, you get to see your family more often.
You get more sleep in prison.
Laundry is free in prison.
You don’t have to worry about job placement in prison.
The food is better in prison.
You don’t have to apply to prison, just get convicted.
In prison, you can get out early for good behavior.

Malcolm X had a great experience in prison. He said:

“from then until I left that prison, in every free moment I had, if I was not reading in the library, I was reading in my bunk. You couldn’t have gotten me out of a book with a wedge”

not much of an endorsement, but he got something out of the time he spent there. I guess prison WAS his College.

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however, I sense something rather facetious about the question

[Holistic Star]

The only way I can imagine prison being better than college is if you didn't want to take responsibility for yourself. Is that what is going on?

[runningbird]

Great article here: jimgoad.net /// YOU MEET THE NICEST PEOPLE IN PRISON
You Meet The Nicest People In Prison
(although I doubt it is quite as good as he makes it sound)

[Murphy]

I quit university two years ago.

One day recently I woke up about midday. I'd had a dream that I was back at school/university and I had some work due in that afternoon. I had this tight horrible feeling in my stomach. Then I remembered that I don't do that anymore in fact I don't even have a boss to report to. That dream though brought back painful memories. Pointless work, stupid lectures, boring lessons.

I would NEVER go back to university. NEVER

[magi13]

I'll respect your opinion, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with this. (To those who think prison is better than college)

I guess You feel the need to become deviants, if that is who you think you are then it's fine, it's okay as long as you do not bring others down with you.

I will be open about with this topic, but this is my personal comment alone.

I believe that shelling out useless information in order to make others confused is kind of the opposite of what personal development is. Then again if this topic is making you think, that in itself is good too.

There is a war out there. The war on controlling what you believe in, I just urge you to think.

The rules of our current generation tells us, study work = success, but it has been constantly proven by our very own administrator and other examples otherwise.

Please think before you believe, ask before you believe and question everything. ^^ You ain't puppies no more after all.



P.s. please think of topics that will promote positivity next time. ^^,

[Subscreet]

Originally Posted by funchy

I hope those of you who think college is like prison are kidding?

Imagine being locked in an austere cement building for YEARS. Your "friends" are those who haven't yet beaten you up, molested you, or lied to guards to get you in trouble. Imagine having to ask permission for every single thing you do. Imagine not even getting privacy to poop; you're sitting on the toilet at the back of your open cell, for everyone to see. No socializing, no leaving for a night of clubbing, no meeting the opposite sex, no spending all day online, no sleeping in, no choosing what you eat, no nothing. When you leave prison, you get only the clothes you walked in with plus a jail record that will follow you forever. Good luck getting an apartment or a job with a felony on your record.

People need to be thankful for what they have. In many parts of the world, you wouldn't get even a full high school education. Or, if there are colleges, there is no money to attend them. If you really want to feel creativity stifled, try living in total poverty with no education.

but but but but but dont you GET IT MAN? COLLEGE is such a waste of time because YOU give all YOU'RE HARD EARNED MONEY to THEM(and by them i mean the JEWS who runs COLLEGES) for a USLESS PEACE OF PAPER!

not only that, but when those JEWS take your money they expect you to SIT and pay attention to LECTURES and do STUPID ASSIGNMENTS all just you can leave with a USELESS PEACE OF PAPER that means NOTHING and not only that but you do it for FOUR YEARS so for FOUR WHOLE YEARS you just sit there while the JEWS feed you the'yre ZIONIST PROPAGANDA

[Subscreet]

I'm sorry what I meant to post was this:

Universities are actually great places. Not only can you learn interesting things and broaden you horizons with the vast amount of resources they provide, they're a great place to meet people too. I'm not just referring to friends, either. If you choose your school wisely, you'll have the chance to network and meet people in your field via your professors and classmates. You can get internships, too, which will give you valuable experience in any given field and further broaden your horizons. And those are barely scratching the surface of all college has to offer. Sure, you'll have to take some BS classes that you may hate and sit through lectures and take tests, but that's just a method of instruction. While I don't like taking tests, I don't dislike them enough to write off college.

It's true that you can learn anything in books that you could learn at college, but that's entirely missing the point. You may read a few books on any given subject and understand them, but you may be not understand things comprehensively or the books may not accurately reflect the current body of knowledge in that field. By attending courses in a university, you can be sure to learn about any given field in a comprehensive manner. Not to mention you may not have somebody to answer your questions and help guide your learning.

Also, I believe Lupe has stated that he's only 17 so take anything he says or any youtube links he posts about college with a huge spoon of salt. The truth is that universities aren't for everybody, and it's certainly not a pre-requisite for success, but if you're like this guy:

Originally Posted by RRR

It was NOT hard work. I skipped all of my classes and only went to exams and wrote papers (unless there was punishment for excessive skipping). I got just below a 3.0 doing this. I had one class I could have passed in 5th grade. MY experience was the most simplistic drivel imaginable. If you showed up and had a brain, you damn well should get an A. I have learned far more in the months since dropping out of college than I ever learned within it.

Then rest assured that this state of affairs is your fault, and not any university's. I guarantee if RRR was going to a decent university and not just a junior college then he could have found some challenging or interesting courses, but instead I'm entirely sure he chose to take something lame like English Comp I and College Algebra and naturally found himself bored. Hell, I went to a mediocre state university as a High School senior and ended up taking a semester course on entrepreneurship taught by the man who was the runner up to the most innovative entrepreneurship professor in the United States one year, Dr. Todd Finkle. It was a great learning experience. We had a wide variety of guest speakers come in to talk about their entrepreneurship experiences and also did several cool projects.

[missing]

Originally Posted by Subscreet

but but but but but dont you GET IT MAN? COLLEGE is such a waste of time because YOU give all YOU'RE HARD EARNED MONEY to THEM(and by them i mean the JEWS who runs COLLEGES) for a USLESS PEACE OF PAPER!

not only that, but when those JEWS take your money they expect you to SIT and pay attention to LECTURES and do STUPID ASSIGNMENTS all just you can leave with a USELESS PEACE OF PAPER that means NOTHING and not only that but you do it for FOUR YEARS so for FOUR WHOLE YEARS you just sit there while the JEWS feed you the'yre ZIONIST PROPAGANDA

I realize this is tongue in cheek (and I don't know about the jew stuff, though academic freedom is an issue on many campuses), but if you think about it, there is some truth to what you are saying. Many colleges however, are like a party with the pretense of learning. You need to pay to get in, not just for the fun you will have those four years, but to ensure you've got any shot of participating in what little party remains when college is over. It's almost as if you need college to get into the "club" or respectability, and to get into that club you need to pay. If you can't pay, there is easily obtainable indentured servitude (debt). But the important thing is that you get into that club, or else you are doomed to mopping the floors for life (and given the state of the economy, you might soon be LUCKY to get that, WITH a degree!).

The upside of college is that it's the one time in life you can pursue your own goals and interests, and have total freedom to do whatever you want, and it's actually legitimized by society. Considering the price, if this was all you got, it'd be a foolish deal. Really what you are paying for is not knowledge, experience, or a good time (though you can get all that if you want), but respectability (ie, status). College in itself has no inherent value, but when people see you have that degree, doors open up.

[smith1012]

Have you forgotten about freedom

Sure college might seem like theres no freedom, but its your choice.

Prison... well think about it

[Acting Like Godot]

Yes .... You can drop out of college any time you want. The same will not be true of prison.

[JGrace]

Originally Posted by Lupe

There are no tests, papers, or homework in prison.
There are no grades in prison.
You don’t need financial aid in prison.
In prison, you get to see your family more often.
You get more sleep in prison.
Laundry is free in prison.
You don’t have to worry about job placement in prison.
The food is better in prison.
You don’t have to apply to prison, just get convicted.
In prison, you can get out early for good behavior.

Great Post! Love it! LMAO

Well for sure, prison was better than elementary, jr high or high school!

[Acting Like Godot]

I used to be a deputy public prosecutor. My job was to prosecute accused persons in court. I also got to visit a few prisons. They are horrible. The negative energy is overwhelming.

One thing comes to my mind. One of the prisons I visited had a special row of individual cells. One per prisoner. They are not allowed to interact with other prisoners. Also, there is a special contraption for providing them with meals. The prison guard gets to slide the meal box into the cell, without having to approach the bars too closely.

Why? These are the HIV positive patients. There have been past incidents. HIV-positive prisoners would try to bite other prisoners or guards, in the hopes of passing on the virus. Also, the usual inter-prisoner buggery problem.

So all these HIV-positive patients have to be locked up in their individual cells now. Terrible.

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Lupe thinks that in prison, he would see his family more often than in college. That's what he thinks.

Truth is that lots of prisoners, especially those with long sentences, don't get regular visitors at all. After a while, they don't even get letters.

In the first place, a disproportionate number of prisoners come from dysfunctional family backgrounds. In the second place, it DOES take a serious amount of commitment & time for your family members to come visit you regularly, especially if you're locked up for years. And guess what? Very often, they run out of things to say to you.

What did you expect? You're here, sitting in a little cell for years. Meanwhile they're moving on with their own lives. Growing up, growing older, changing jobs, finding new partners, moving home etc etc, And you're STILL here, sitting in a little cell for years. You're not part of their daily lives anymore.

And if you are a criminal who's done something quite grave, very often your family members will just decide that they don't want to know you anymore. Plain and simple truth of it.

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Prison abuse is endemic. You can't stamp it out. It happens in every country. In a sense, there is no other way. You can't take a group of men who have a history of committing robbery, theft, murder, molest, rape, violent crime ....... lock them in close proximity ..... and expect them to behave nicely to each other.

The abuse comes at two levels. One is where prisoners abuse prisoners. The other is where guards abuse prisoners (in order to control them and get them to behave. At other times, just for the sadistic thrill of exercising power).

All this abuse are reflections of the worst sides of human nature. But seriously, did you expect otherwise? Where would you go, if you wanted to find the worst sides of human nature? A war zone, perhaps. Another good bet would be prisons, certainly.

And Lupe thinks that prisons are better than college, LOL. When a prison guard takes a baton and smashes it across his face, Lupe will change his mind. If he's still conscious.

[Daffy Duck]

I think your post was some sort of joke, but I'll treat it as if you're serious.

Originally Posted by Lupe

There are no tests, papers, or homework in prison.

No opportunity to show and improve my intelligence? That sucks.

There are no grades in prison.

No assessment of how I am doing from a teacher's perspective? That sucks.

You don’t need financial aid in prison.

I don't need financial aid in college. Most students wouldn't need as much if they were good at making and handling money.

In prison, you get to see your family more often.

There are no summers, spring breaks, or winter vacations in prison.

You get more sleep in prison.

Why would you want to sleep your life away? I get 7-8 hours every day, and that's plenty!

Laundry is free in prison.

Laundry is so cheap that it's practically free.

You don’t have to worry about job placement in prison.

I'm so loved wherever I work, that I still have old employers asking me to come back. I don't have to worry about job placement in life.

The food is better in prison.

Are you serious? Frozen pizza is even better than the food in prison!

You don’t have to apply to prison, just get convicted.

Go to a community college, if you must. They accept everyone.

In prison, you can get out early for good behavior.

In college, you get out early for good knowledge. Look at how fast Steve finished.

[bluedragon]

Waw, there must be some really awful universities somewhere in the world, I don't know where, cause I've never been to one that could have been worse than prison. Mine is quite cool, you don't even have to go to the lectures, only to half of the seminars, and it's pretty easy too. However, what is being taught is very essential to the field, and you can go and study more on your own if you want to be prepared. I don't think any of my classmates, even though they complain all the time, would go so far as to say they'd rather go to prison.

[missing]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Yes .... You can drop out of college any time you want. The same will not be true of prison.

lol, that's not entirely true. You can drop out of prison. They call it "escaping". You can also hang yourself with a bed sheet.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by Lupe

There are no tests, papers, or homework in prison.
There are no grades in prison.
You don’t need financial aid in prison.
In prison, you get to see your family more often.
You get more sleep in prison.
Laundry is free in prison.
You don’t have to worry about job placement in prison.
The food is better in prison.
You don’t have to apply to prison, just get convicted.
In prison, you can get out early for good behavior.

to many college = prison;
yup, &
to some prison = college.