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Michael Chui · 07-13-2008, 09:05 AM

I decided it would be poor taste to post this under the Spirituality category.

Pharyngula: IT'S A FRACKIN' CRACKER!

But I was tempted. So very tempted.

I will also refrain from giving you any reason to click on the link.

Jamie · 07-13-2008, 09:52 AM

What amuses me is this:

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"We have to make acts of reparation," Gonzalez said. "The whole community is going to turn to prayer. We'll ask the Lord for pardon, forgiveness, peace, not only for the whole community affected by it, but also for [Cook], we offer prayers for him as well."

- 'Body Of Christ' Snatched From Church, Held Hostage By UCF Student - News Story - WFTV Orlando

These Catholics are the ones who are sending this guy all this negative energy, death threats etc. Then they're inculding him in their prayers, OMG! What's that all about?

Dan.Linehan · 07-16-2008, 02:31 AM

You know, I was going to say something witty, but I hadn't realized the extent of the hyper sensitive response from this until I read the full post.

Wow.

TooTicki · 07-17-2008, 12:00 PM

Reason #98736 why organized superstition is a baaaaad idea. Unless of course, you´re in it for the architecture.

Michael Chui · 07-17-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TooTicki

Reason #98736 why organized superstition is a baaaaad idea. Unless of course, you´re in it for the architecture.

Catholic architecture isn't bad, but what spectacular feats of artistic majesty have the Scientologists come up with?

JimOfferman · 07-17-2008, 10:24 PM

Absolutely mind boggling.

I fail to understand how anyone with more brain cells than a rock could even contemplate expelling someone over not eating a tiny piece of bread. Surely even the most devout Christian would understand that you're not actually eating Christ's body, but only partaking in a ritual in his honor.

It's a shame, really, I think Jesus was a very enlightened figure in his time... he deserves better followers than these dimwits!

(Thankfully, many -most?- Christians aren't this stupid)

Michael Chui · 07-18-2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JimOfferman

Surely even the most devout Christian would understand that you're not actually eating Christ's body, but only partaking in a ritual in his honor.

Erm. Actually...
Transubstantiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist

Last I'd heard, some body of American bishops decided that the bread turns into the body of Christ after it's in your stomach, so it's not actually cannibalism. But that was maybe 4 or 5 years ago, and some footnote in the college newspaper. Next to caffeinated soap.

But I think the traditional line of thought is that it becomes the body of Christ when blessed.

TooTicki · 07-18-2008, 11:55 AM

Just got an idea: If I smuggle out lots and lots of jesus flesh, I can build my own body of christ (and some wine to put in his veins). Then I´ll make it get hit by lightning and... FRANKENJESUS!

Michael Chui · 07-19-2008, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TooTicki

Just got an idea: If I smuggle out lots and lots of jesus flesh, I can build my own body of christ (and some wine to put in his veins). Then I´ll make it get hit by lightning and... FRANKENJESUS!

You'd be missing a brain.

TooTicki · 07-24-2008, 07:48 PM

And the deed is done!

This has been so good fun that i almost wish it wasn´t over. See here, where I live, the religious people aren´t nearly as nutty as the ones you have on the other side of the ocean, so fun stuff like this just doesn´t happen very often. Well actually they are equally nutty, they´re just not as many or as vocal. Here being an atheist or at least uninterested in religion, is pretty much pressumed. Having these nutters to fight must give your life a purpose that is enviable.

Angela · 07-24-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JimOfferman

Surely even the most devout Christian would understand that you're not actually eating Christ's body, but only partaking in a ritual in his honor.

Nope, it's not just a symbolic ritual, it's a sacrament. Bread and wine are actually transformed into the body and the blood of christ, in all ways but appearance. They are, literally, not symbolically, the body and blood of Jesus. I have never heard of the transubstantiation taking place only after it hits your stomach; word I got was that it's Jesus as soon as the authorized person transubstantiates it.

Also, did you know you're not allowed to gobble the body and glug the blood if you have not gone to confession since your last mortal sin? If you have murdered someone, or had an homosexual encounter, or deliberately thought an impure thought, and you go ahead and partake without having first confessed, you are profaning the eucharist in the most grievous manner. That can't be good, right?

Dan.Linehan · 07-25-2008, 12:29 AM

Wow. PZ Meyers is kind of my hero.

Well played.

Michael Chui · 07-25-2008, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TooTicki

And the deed is done!

WHOO!

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Originally Posted by TooTicki

This has been so good fun that i almost wish it wasn´t over.

What makes you think it's over? I mean, look at the first comment.

I'm hoping something nice and public ensues. I want to see whether or not the Muslims take the side of the Catholics, and whether or not people are aware of the level of anti-Semitism still present.

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Originally Posted by TooTicki

Having these nutters to fight must give your life a purpose that is enviable.

Actually, I got bored with it. I was on their side for a while, gave it up, switched sides, fought another smattering of years, and then just went and did something productive.

However, you should watch "This is England". It's an indie film, available on Netflix, and pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Angela

I have never heard of the transubstantiation taking place only after it hits your stomach;

Yeah, and I'm not terribly inclined to back up my statement, either. I heard it once, was surprised by it, and found it memorable. If they're not going to make it a Vatican-level announcement, then they can just swallow the accusations of cannibalism. I don't mind leaving the Catholics between a rock and a hard place.

JimOfferman · 07-25-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

That can't be good, right?

Nope!

Count me out. I'm not eating any part of the dear lord until he turns himself into a batch of donuts!

Mmmmmmmm... donuts...

Angela · 07-25-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JimOfferman

I'm not eating any part of the dear lord

Too bad. That happens to be my name.

(jokes like that used to get me in big trouble in catechism.)

TooTicki · 07-25-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Chui

WHOO!

What makes you think it's over? I mean, look at the first comment.

I'm hoping something nice and public ensues. I want to see whether or not the Muslims take the side of the Catholics, and whether or not people are aware of the level of anti-Semitism still present.

Might not be completely over, but I doubt PZ will write more on it. I think he´s just sick of the whole thing.

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However, you should watch "This is England". It's an indie film, available on Netflix, and pretty good.

Yeah might watch that as I´m doing nothing else atm, and I remember reading abit about it when it came out. Don´t know how it relates to this subject but whatever. Also I really wanna see that movie Expelled. Seems like stupid fun, but it doesn´t seem to be out on torrent yet.

Michael Chui · 07-27-2008, 11:07 PM

Sinfest

Michael Chui · 08-07-2008, 07:11 AM

Okay, this is a little old now, but I can't believe I forgot to check LOLTheist.

LOLTheist: Blasphemy is Teh Funneh » Blog Archive » Showing off the bling is the fast track to tragedy
LOLTheist: Blasphemy is Teh Funneh » Blog Archive » Crakas. Serious Business.
LOLTheist: Blasphemy is Teh Funneh » Blog Archive » So, wine is the blood, what is the milk?
LOLTheist: Blasphemy is Teh Funneh » Blog Archive » The new wafer security was a success

I can't say all of them are teh funneh, but eh. Take what crackers you can get?

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Dan.Linehan Family Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Rafael, CA Posts: 4,896	You know, I was going to say something witty, but I hadn't realized the extent of the hyper sensitive response from this until I read the full post. Wow.

07-17-2008, 12:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
TooTicki Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 65	Reason #98736 why organized superstition is a baaaaad idea. Unless of course, you´re in it for the architecture.

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JimOfferman Family Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,823	Absolutely mind boggling. I fail to understand how anyone with more brain cells than a rock could even contemplate expelling someone over not eating a tiny piece of bread. Surely even the most devout Christian would understand that you're not actually eating Christ's body, but only partaking in a ritual in his honor. It's a shame, really, I think Jesus was a very enlightened figure in his time... he deserves better followers than these dimwits! (Thankfully, many -most?- Christians aren't this stupid)

07-18-2008, 11:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
TooTicki Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 65	Just got an idea: If I smuggle out lots and lots of jesus flesh, I can build my own body of christ (and some wine to put in his veins). Then I´ll make it get hit by lightning and... FRANKENJESUS!

07-24-2008, 07:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
TooTicki Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 65	And the deed is done! This has been so good fun that i almost wish it wasn´t over. See here, where I live, the religious people aren´t nearly as nutty as the ones you have on the other side of the ocean, so fun stuff like this just doesn´t happen very often. Well actually they are equally nutty, they´re just not as many or as vocal. Here being an atheist or at least uninterested in religion, is pretty much pressumed. Having these nutters to fight must give your life a purpose that is enviable.

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Dan.Linehan Family Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Rafael, CA Posts: 4,896	Wow. PZ Meyers is kind of my hero. Well played.

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Michael Chui Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 3,977	Sinfest

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Michael Chui Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 3,977	Okay, this is a little old now, but I can't believe I forgot to check LOLTheist. LOLTheist: Blasphemy is Teh Funneh » Blog Archive » Showing off the bling is the fast track to tragedy LOLTheist: Blasphemy is Teh Funneh » Blog Archive » Crakas. Serious Business. LOLTheist: Blasphemy is Teh Funneh » Blog Archive » So, wine is the blood, what is the milk? LOLTheist: Blasphemy is Teh Funneh » Blog Archive » The new wafer security was a success I can't say all of them are teh funneh, but eh. Take what crackers you can get?

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