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Old 11-06-2008, 02:24 AM   #121 (permalink)
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I found your article very interesting but still cant make up my mind. Having been brought up Catholic I cannot seem to get rid of the idea that abortion is wrong. I have talked two women I know out of aborting their babies in my lifetime. Both of these women have come to thank me. Once in fact one of the girls who would have been aborted thanked me for talking her mother out of it. She had been told at some point by her mother that abortion had been considered and the story of how her friend, a gay man ,had managed to talk her out of it.They both bumped into me in the street one day about sixteen years later and thanked me together telling me with great joy in their faces that they thought of each other as the best thing that had ever happened to each other in their lives!!

I have known women who have aborted their babies and have seen great suffering in them. Once I went to a hospital to meet a friend to help her home after she had had an abortion. I dont think I have ever been witness to a lonelier scene.As she left the hospital she said goodbye to the two nurses who had assisted at the procedure. I saw her do this. They did not notice her and unwittingly did not acknowledge her. In my work in the past too I have been involved with women who were trying to deal with the aftermath of abortion. It is such a difficult subject and I would never point the finger at anyone in relation to it. I have encountered a few callous health practitioners though but never a woman who took this course of action lightly. I liked your article, Erin but our spiritual understandings differ considerably and my Catholic appreciation of life although considerably sympathetic with yours is not quite in accord and I do not have the freedom in my beliefs to accept abortion as an act of love although I get your point and honour it. I guess its because we think the soul is present from conception. Sometimes though I wonder if its just fear that keeps me "stuck" with this belief, However I am not a closed book (yet!) and have as illustrated been present to a few women one time or another for whom abortion has been an issue. Hopefully though in a loving, supportive way.I am heartened by your article as I do feel protective of souls coming into the world . It must be quite a journey from heaven to the womb.Mothers are such WONDERFUL beings.
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Don't remember where I read this, I think I have an idea of the book. But it had a reference where it said that when a female gets pregnant and she aborts for some reason. But then gets pregnant again and decides to have the baby the first baby that was aborted returns on the next pregnancy. When I mean it returns I mean the same soul. Anyone knows about this?
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:51 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Don't remember where I read this, I think I have an idea of the book. But it had a reference where it said that when a female gets pregnant and she aborts for some reason. But then gets pregnant again and decides to have the baby the first baby that was aborted returns on the next pregnancy. When I mean it returns I mean the same soul. Anyone knows about this?
I know of a qigong master whose wife was forced by the Chinese government to have an abortion (2nd child).

When he and his wife moved to the United States some years later, she became pregnant again, and he said that the soul of their daughter was the same soul as that of the aborted baby. So, maybe there is some truth to it.
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